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Rill22

Rill22

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I swam competitively my whole life. I think these suits are lame. Setting records and beating times should be based off of your skill, training, and talent, not who has the best gear.
 
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JeffreyLebowski

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Originally posted by: Lorax
all sports should be in the nude to eliminate any technology component.
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I wouldn't go that far, but all contestants should be equipped the same. The Olympics are about skill and athletic prowess, not about how fat an "amature's" wallet is. Just because there is no rule yet, does not mean it is not a unfair advantage. The rules are put into place to make things fair across the board. But once they allowed the NBA Dream Team in the Olympics it went down hill as every sport seemed to try and get the best of the best whether professionals or not. It no longer became an event to bring the world together and to compete, it became about bringing in the most amount of money and doing everything possible to win, no matter how shady it was.
 
Homerboy

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: Rill22
I swam competitively my whole life. I think these suits are lame. Setting records and beating times should be based off of your skill, training, and talent, not who has the best gear.
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Again, I still don't get it.
Why are these suits any different than increased technology in running shoes? Bicycles? Better bow/arrows? Kayaks? or anything of that nature? Should they have outlawed compound bows into competition when they were invented? Or aerodynamic helmets/suits?

Not to mention new tech in skis, bobsleds etc etc in the winter games.
 
BassBomb

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Rill22
I swam competitively my whole life. I think these suits are lame. Setting records and beating times should be based off of your skill, training, and talent, not who has the best gear.
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Again, I still don't get it.
Why are these suits any different than increased technology in running shoes? Bicycles? Better bow/arrows? Kayaks? or anything of that nature? Should they have outlawed compound bows into competition when they were invented? Or aerodynamic helmets/suits?

Not to mention new tech in skis, bobsleds etc etc in the winter games.
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Yeah if people were all limited to using the same gear, I think we would see a much odder game.
 
Rill22

Rill22

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Rill22
I swam competitively my whole life. I think these suits are lame. Setting records and beating times should be based off of your skill, training, and talent, not who has the best gear.
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Again, I still don't get it.
Why are these suits any different than increased technology in running shoes? Bicycles? Better bow/arrows? Kayaks? or anything of that nature? Should they have outlawed compound bows into competition when they were invented? Or aerodynamic helmets/suits?

Not to mention new tech in skis, bobsleds etc etc in the winter games.
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Yeah, I understand the argument. I suppose I wouldn't complain if they made everything uniform across the board for all sports, although I'm not sure you could realistically be that drastic. Perhaps different bicycles fit different competitor's body frames better, for example, but I guess the swimming thing just hit home a bit more for me.

I don't know where the line should be drawn, but I guess I always felt that swimming was a sport that you really competed with nothing but your body, whereas cyclists and kayakers and archers all had to use something.

I still can't bring myself to approve of the new suits.

 
Baked

Baked

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The suits should be banned from Olympic competition. It's cheating.
 
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slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Rill22
I swam competitively my whole life. I think these suits are lame. Setting records and beating times should be based off of your skill, training, and talent, not who has the best gear.
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Again, I still don't get it.
Why are these suits any different than increased technology in running shoes? Bicycles? Better bow/arrows? Kayaks? or anything of that nature? Should they have outlawed compound bows into competition when they were invented? Or aerodynamic helmets/suits?

Not to mention new tech in skis, bobsleds etc etc in the winter games.
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the Olympics doesn't allow compound bows IIRC
 
Homerboy

Homerboy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Rill22
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Rill22
I swam competitively my whole life. I think these suits are lame. Setting records and beating times should be based off of your skill, training, and talent, not who has the best gear.
Click to expand...

Again, I still don't get it.
Why are these suits any different than increased technology in running shoes? Bicycles? Better bow/arrows? Kayaks? or anything of that nature? Should they have outlawed compound bows into competition when they were invented? Or aerodynamic helmets/suits?

Not to mention new tech in skis, bobsleds etc etc in the winter games.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I understand the argument. I suppose I wouldn't complain if they made everything uniform across the board for all sports, although I'm not sure you could realistically be that drastic. Perhaps different bicycles fit different competitor's body frames better, for example, but I guess the swimming thing just hit home a bit more for me.

I don't know where the line should be drawn, but I guess I always felt that swimming was a sport that you really competed with nothing but your body, whereas cyclists and kayakers and archers all had to use something.

I still can't bring myself to approve of the new suits.
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It would be interesting for sure to have a "even board" but its not going to happen. Not just in equipment itself but in available training techniques and facilities and such. As somebody previously mentioned in this thread, how are you going to level that playing field? Is the athlete in some 3rd world nation going to get the same chances at training as somebody in America, Australia, England etc? No. They're not. The playing field is already skewed.

 
Homerboy

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: Homerboy
the Olympics doesn't allow compound bows IIRC
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Correct... but you get my point :)
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that the equipment caused an unfair advantage and was banned from Olympic competition? I get it
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I'm not sure if thats why... in fact I can't find anything to support that.
the only snipet I can find in a quick search mentioning these things: "...and the compound bow, invented in 1966 by Wilbur Allen of Missouri, has been accepted in FITA but will not be a part of the Olympic Games." taken from: http://www.usarchery.org/html/History.html
 
Rill22

Rill22

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
It would be interesting for sure to have a "even board" but its not going to happen. Not just in equipment itself but in available training techniques and facilities and such. As somebody previously mentioned in this thread, how are you going to level that playing field? Is the athlete in some 3rd world nation going to get the same chances at training as somebody in America, Australia, England etc? No. They're not. The playing field is already skewed.
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Like I said, probably not realistic to do so.

But as we all know from Rocky IV, you don't need fancy facilities to win. Just a couple logs, chains, and snow.
 
Homerboy

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: Rill22
Originally posted by: Homerboy
It would be interesting for sure to have a "even board" but its not going to happen. Not just in equipment itself but in available training techniques and facilities and such. As somebody previously mentioned in this thread, how are you going to level that playing field? Is the athlete in some 3rd world nation going to get the same chances at training as somebody in America, Australia, England etc? No. They're not. The playing field is already skewed.
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Like I said, probably not realistic to do so.

But as we all know from Rocky IV, you don't need fancy facilities to win. Just a couple logs, chains, and snow.
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That is EXACTLY what I was going to type (reference to Rocky IV and training) but figured I'd leave it out. LOL


Edit: Happy LIFER to me. My posts will now get 25% dumber and 200% more arrogant.
 
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Lorax

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why would you ban the new hightech swimsuit but allow any other? the fact that it's more advanced shouldn't be the basis of its ban (thus my earlier comment about sports in the nude).

any one remember those "co-ed naked (sport)" shirts? maybe they'll make a comeback.
 
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goog40

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I don't get what people are complaining about. Athletes always have and always will try to improve their athletic performance by using the best equipment available. If you're sponsored by another company that forces you to use their inferior equipment, that's too bad.
 
Brovane

Brovane

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The suits were tested and approved by FINA and the suit fits within the rules and guidelines set by FINA.
 
K1052

K1052

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
that's it... every athlete from now on should compete nekkid...
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The ratings boost would be unimaginable. :D

I'd certainly be DVRing good portions of it...
 
theeedude

theeedude

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It's swimming, so who cares? Seriously, swimming! Let them wear their dolphin suits, or whatever the hell they want.

 
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