NEW SONY WIDESCREEN LCD "PERFECT FOR GAMERS" 22MS-

[BMW330ci]

Hey Everyone - I just spotted the new Sony Widescreen SDM-V72W 17" LCD screen that has a response time of 22ms and 500:1 contrast ratio but only 17"? I wonder if they're in the works of a larger 18~19" model.
Retail price is $1000 and available now.

Check it out HERE

What do you guys think?

 

[fr]

...the stuff credit cards are made for.

 

[technician]

:Q

 

[randomlinh]

hd15 is still just analog isn't it?? and what about res support, standard cards can support it?

 

[Heifetz]

kinda like my sgi 1600sw huh? Except that I got it for oh....$650 a year ago! hehe

 

[Tiberius]

Well, 17" horizontal area for a widescreen equals roughly the vertical size of a 15". So this is one very very tiny display. And since most games don't support 16:9 anyway, you'll basically be playing on a 15" most of the time.

 

[halik]

whooo 1600sw rule, i got 5 of em for $550 a piece !!!
and yeah its almost gonna be a year


as for the aspect ratio, my lcd runs at 1600x1024, not sure if its tru 16x9, but games look pretty damn good on it

 

[jjhodoro]

Heifetz: how do you like your 1600sw? Does it do well in games?

- JH

 

[Gunbuster]

No DVI?

Lack of DVI=Suck

 

[DealyDo]

kinda like my sgi 1600sw huh? Except that I got it for oh....$650 a year ago! hehe

Or like the refurb model that was new in box that I got for $550.00!!!.......Double HEEHEE

Thanks to you as I remember..Didn't you almost not get one as i recall even though you were one of the first to order

 

[GoSharks]

Originally posted by: halik

as for the aspect ratio, my lcd runs at 1600x1024, not sure if its tru 16x9, but games look pretty damn good on it

16x9 would be 1600x900
or 1920x1080

 

[halik]

hahah
duh! ... ive been studying for mondays german test too long

 

[Supernaut]

ur forgetting the response time on the sgis are 25/15. I notice ghosting when I play games, but I am using analog, maybe it wont show in dvi, dunno. There r a bunch of little things i dont like about the sgis but I am glad I got them. Second sharpest monitor on the market. All the other LCDs I played with had pixels so large that I could see each individual one. Whats worse is that I can see the space between the pixels! SGI all the way though!! Finally got it working at the 16:10 aspect ratio with the new nvidia reference drivers, WOO HOO.

Also, GTA3 works at wide screen.

 

[exisle]

no dvi shouldn't.. people have a tendiency to nitpick over little things like that.. I don't think anyone could tell the diff between an analog or dvi lcd if they were next to each other.. the monitor just has to convert the digital signal back to analog anyway..

 

[jasonja]

The point of DVI is to keep the D to A and A to D down to a min. DVI has better quality and it's direct to digital... a DVI panel doesn't have any D to A conversion in it... but a non DVI panel has to convert the analog signals back to a digital format. So your video card's DAC goes thru all the trouble to convert to Analog then the panel just converts it back to digital, all the while losing quality.

Make a copy of CD directly and then take that CD and copy it to a tape, then record the tape back to a CD burner and you tell me which sounds better.

 

[Petey00]

a bit off topic, but I don't believe Sony actually manufactures their own lcd panels? anyone know who's providing this model to them?

 

[wisdomdbn]

I prefer this Sony 20" beauty which I saw at Fry's over the weekend. Amazingly clear at 1600x1200, damn near as good as the Apple Cinema 22" LCD. Response time is 30 ms, and of course it has DVI. I wish I could find a deal on one of these, MSRP is $1999! But DAMN, you gotta see one.

Wis

 

[Slacktron]

Originally posted by: exisle
no dvi shouldn't.. people have a tendiency to nitpick over little things like that.. I don't think anyone could tell the diff between an analog or dvi lcd if they were next to each other.. the monitor just has to convert the digital signal back to analog anyway..

Dude, you simply must try looking at Analog (VGA) and DVI next to each other. You'd change your tune in a hurry. Analog always looks a bit 'fuzzy', with blurred pixels even at the native resolution. DVI is tack sharp, like a good laptop screen.

The only people saying you can't tell the difference are those who haven't seen both.

 

[dethman]

DVI looks SOO much better than analog. at least on my planar. you have to see it seriously. do NOT buy an analog only LCD, you are just wasting your money. unless you really like saving desk space.

 

[HonkeyDonk]

Questions for all you people running SGI's, how are you connecting it to your PC's? Do you use that multi-link? If so, where and how much did you get it for? They run for like $400+ on ebay. Kinda makes your SGI's like $900+ doesn't it?

 

[VFAA]

Sweet!

 

[JPSJPS]

Originally posted by: Slacktron

Dude, you simply must try looking at Analog (VGA) and DVI next to each other. You'd change your tune in a hurry. Analog always looks a bit 'fuzzy', with blurred pixels even at the native resolution. DVI is tack sharp, like a good laptop screen.

The only people saying you can't tell the difference are those who haven't seen both.

NOPE Slacktron - Not true in the case of the Dell 20" and Samsung 17" anyhow. I have two dual setups with two of each of those LCD monitors using Radeon 7800 & Nvidia 4600 video cards and you can NOT tell the difference between DVI and VGA in a side by side blind test.

I bought the "el cheapo" Microtek 17" LCD recently for my son (Office Depot deal posted here or at FW for $499 - $100 rebate) and it has only a VGA input but the picture is beautiful compared side by side to the above DVI monitors. All of the above monitors have an "Auto Adjust" button that works perfectly so this may be the key.

Of course, if you use a low end video card with a poor bandwidth D/A and an LCD monitor that has a crappy A/D, then there could be some signal degradation. You have to compare side by side to tell the difference. YMMV

John

 

[Paazel]

totally not true. I'm running a samsung syncmaster 170mp (analogue) on a visiontek ti4600, and my mom has a sony (don't remember the model) on a ati AIW 7500, and mine is definately better. I think generally DVI should look better, but unfortunately you just have to see b4 you assume.

 

[DealyDo]

Questions for all you people running SGI's, how are you connecting it to your PC's? Do you use that multi-link? If so, where and how much did you get it for? They run for like $400+ on ebay. Kinda makes your SGI's like $900+ doesn't it?

NO....This was one of the best deals, if not the best. SGI offered refurb SGI 1600SW for $550.00 refurbed and new for $650.00. Deal was good for about 8 hours, if I recall. Took months to get them. My supposedly refurb was new.

It can with monitor and multi-link adapter.

I rank it as the best deal of 2001.

 

[autodestruct]

I agree, the SGI flatpanels became the deal of the year for me. I picked up 2 refurbs. 1 is perfect, 1 has a dead pixel (always green, so you can't see it with a white background).

I use them for gaming all the time and don't see ghosting. I have them both hooked up to a machine using a Radeon 8500 dual-head. 1 is analog, one DVI. The DVI is definately clearer, but the analog is still nice. It's an interesting test to see the same monitors next to each other, one analog, one digital.

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