New software burned image into monitor?????

[Neo_Geo]

Someone I know is claiming that after installing some new software, a ghost image of his desktop was burned into his 1600x1024 SG flat panel monitor.

He is claiming that is must be the software's fault...

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE!!!! Sounds like coincidence to me.

Anyone else hear similar stories??

 

[thorin]

What software?

IMHO it's he's full of crap.

Thorin

 

[farmercal]

FYI burn-in on a CRT takes years of displaying the exact same image. How could installing software do this?

 

[Neo_Geo]

> IMHO it's he's full of crap.

I agree completely. But I don't think we can convince him otherwise.

The software was the newest version of SolidWorks 2003 (a 3d CAD program).

 

[Ronin]

*spews out his coffee*

I'd have a hard time looking your friend in the face after that. That sounds like a Tech Support call from hell waiting to happen.

 

[mboy]

I have SW 2003 here and NO problem on a 21" CRT.

 

[littleprince]

Well.... I thought he was full of crap.
So I installed the above mentioned software on my desktop.
No problems on my 19" Samsung.

So I treid it on my dell inspiron. OMG!! It caused 10 Dead pixels!!










J/k....

 

[thorin]

Originally posted by: Neo_Geo
> IMHO it's he's full of crap.

I agree completely. But I don't think we can convince him otherwise.

The software was the newest version of SolidWorks 2003 (a 3d CAD program).

Why do you have to convince him. If he thinks it the software then tell him to call the vendor and make a fool of himself. How does it affect you? Why should you give two sh!ts?

Thorin

 

[Neo_Geo]

I don't care myself, really. It just hurts when people blame a very good piece of software for something that is not the software's fault.

Not that SolidWorks is flawless, it is just these kinds of people can give good software a bad name.

This person just posed his problem at a public forum, and does not believe everybody else's (correct) reply. Just doin what I can to teach the world and learn something in the process...

So, Thorin, why do you hang out here so much? "How does it affect you? Why should you give two sh!ts?"

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: farmercal
FYI burn-in on a CRT takes years of displaying the exact same image. How could installing software do this?

So if I left my 17inch NEC FE770 on for 24 hours just sitting there on the desktop for no apparant reason it wouldn't burn in the image?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: farmercal
FYI burn-in on a CRT takes years of displaying the exact same image. How could installing software do this?

So if I left my 17inch NEC FE770 on for 24 hours just sitting there on the desktop for no apparant reason it wouldn't burn in the image?

i've done that and it's true

 

[mboy]

24 hours, no. Not even with the contrast @ 100.

BTW the way to prevent this is keeping the contrast at the 50 or so level. Same for your TV set.

 

[thorin]

Originally posted by: Neo_Geo
I don't care myself, really. It just hurts when people blame a very good piece of software for something that is not the software's fault.

That's kewl I hear what you mean. I was just askin if it was one of those "you told me to install this software and now my monitor.....blah blah blah"

This person just posed his problem at a public forum, and does not believe everybody else's (correct) reply.

Hmmm well I hope someone here comes up with something that group didn't come up with (to convince him)

Just doin what I can to teach the world and learn something in the process...

Good plan you can never know "too" much.

So, Thorin, why do you hang out here so much?

I'm a glutten for punishment I guess Actually it gives me somewhere to keep up on what's happening in the industry and help people a bit. (Like my old sig said "No one knows everything, but everyone knows something. You just have to know who knows."

"How does it affect you?

It doesn't, I just like to help and keep up-to-date.

Why should you give two sh!ts?"

I probably shouldn't

Thorin

 

[Sunner]

I wouldn't say it takes years on a CRT, more like 5+ days or so.
24 hours shouldn't be a problem though.

 

[Mark R]

On a typical modern CRT screen-burn takes months at an absolute minimum.

Has anyone seen their windows task bar or start button burned into their screen? Didn't think so.


On an LCD - a similar effect can build up over a few days. But, it also fades after a few days.

 

[Dug]

For you guys that think this is a joke-

It happens more then you think.
If this is an LCD, then there is a very good chance that what he described is true.

It's just that it's not the software's problem, he just happened to get the ghost image the same time he installed the software.

Tell your friend to run a screen saver for a few days when he's not using the computer and the problem will go away. Pick one like the star screen saver that will exercise all the pixels.

 

[43st]

LCD displays can have this problem. It stands out a bit more on an LCD projector but it can still happen to standard screens. Plasma displays have this problem, only much worse. They can have burn-in after 15 minutes in the worst cases.

The best solution if you have to leave an image up 24/7 is to go with a CRT or a DLP projector.

EDIT: Here's a quote from an NEC white paper...

"There are many concerns with both LCD and plasma displays when using a static image. LCDs can exhibit a phenomenon known as ?image retention.? Image retention is caused by a pixel being in the ?on? state for an extended period of time, causing a small charge to remain in the cell in the ?off? state, similar to a memory effect. However, this phenomenon is not permanent. To reduce the chance of this phenomenon, many advances have been made in the liquid crystal material itself, and the display may include a ?screen saver? pixel-shifting technology to further reduce the risk.

Plasma displays use phosphor and can suffer from phosphor burn-in just like CRT products that use phosphor. Although some manufacturers include pixel-shifting technologies to reduce the chance of this happening, the end result is permanent. When phosphor burn-in occurs, the phosphor material is damaged and this cannot be removed.

The amount of time required for both image retention and phosphor burn-in is almost impossible to calculate because of all the variables involved. The color of the image, the pattern, the display?s brightness setting and many other factors can affect the time before these phenomenons appear."