New Russian military hardware.

[Ns1]

So what's america doing to keep up?

http://eng.mil.ru/en/multimedia/photo/gallery.htm?id=21804@cmsPhotoGallery

 

[Exterous]

Advanced forward-looking military hardware

:hmm: Everything is forward looking. Seems like we just need to sneak up behind them

 

[MongGrel]

The all over looking stuff.

:sneaky:

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So what's america doing to keep up?

http://eng.mil.ru/en/multimedia/photo/gallery.htm?id=21804@cmsPhotoGallery

Working on rail guns and freakin lasers!

 

[touchstone]

So what's america doing to keep up?

http://eng.mil.ru/en/multimedia/photo/gallery.htm?id=21804@cmsPhotoGallery

America is avoiding spending billions on antiquated tracked armor easily destroyed by modern anti-tank weaponry, aircraft, and helicopters. The only thing a tank is good for in 2015 is A) to intimidate and B) to destroy another tank. And they are only good at B if they are very modern.


It's all about drones now, as far as future weapons.

 

[sdifox]

Drones and fembots

 

[Perknose]

Drones and fembots

And psyops. Derisive abuse on the internet, ftw. It weakens the will of your enemy when you casually question their personal hygiene and choice of ISP.

 

[madoka]

So what's america doing to keep up?

I don't think we need to worry.

 

[MongGrel]

And psyops. Derisive abuse on the internet, ftw. It weakens the will of your enemy when you casually question their personal hygiene and choice of ISP.

Are Elderberries involved ?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Jaepheth]

Those look perfect for the occasional occupying/destabilizing of nations that immediately border Russia to prevent them from ever becoming too powerful and thus reducing Russia's buffer zone.

 

[irishScott]

Russian dick-waving is parading some untested military hardware in front of the Kremlin. American dick-waving is placing a carrier task force capable of obliterating your capital less than 100 miles from your national waters. Oh and we have about a dozen of those.

 

[MongGrel]

Russian dick-waving is parading some untested military hardware in front of the Kremlin. American dick-waving is placing a carrier task force capable of obliterating your capital less than 100 miles from your national waters. Oh and we have about a dozen of those.

It is pretty nice we can still do that.

 

[Blanky]

Those look perfect for the occasional occupying/destabilizing of nations that immediately border Russia to prevent them from ever becoming too powerful and thus reducing Russia's buffer zone.

Yep. No chance against 'Merica. These tanks are well equipped to the mission of taking out pissant old-soviet nations.

 

[twinrider1]

CNN has an article on the T-14 Armata. They referred to it as a medium tank and then multiple times as a main battle tank. That bothered me greatly. Then I thought that I probably should just let it go.

Anyone else have boxes of Micro Armour stashed away somewhere?

 

[kage69]

So what's america doing to keep up?

http://eng.mil.ru/en/multimedia/photo/gallery.htm?id=21804@cmsPhotoGallery

Regarding their overdue upgrades for standard vehicles? We went modular awhile back with many systems, dealing with new threats in a familiar class often happens behind the scenes, with little fanfare. And that's if DoD feels the need to begin with!


My main worry is Russia's new electronic warfare system. After what happened to the Donald Cook last spring in the Black Sea, I hope Navy brass sufficiently shit itself in order to make defending against Khibiny a huge priority. We need Aegis / AESA upgrades, and fucking chop chop guys. When an Arleigh Burke can basically be turned off like a T.V, we have problems. Nice one Russia, credit where credit is due.

 

[kage69]

CNN has an article on the T-14 Armata. They referred to it as a medium tank and then multiple times as a main battle tank. That bothered me greatly. Then I thought that I probably should just let it go.

Anyone else have boxes of Micro Armour stashed away somewhere?

The distinction is in the weight here I think. You are familiar with the Abrams as a main battle tank, or the Challenger perhaps. 70 tons, give or take? Russians have had to contend with vast tracks of unpleasant, soft terrain in their fight against the Nazis. It's led to a preference for tanks that don't sink into the ground and get stuck. Don't quote me on this, but the Armata is somewhere around 40 tons? Sounds like the medium battle tank weight to me, or close enough anyway

 

[mnewsham]

Don't quote me on this, but the Armata is somewhere around 40 tons?

in MBT configuration the Armata is around 57 tons. The M1A2 is 62 tons.

 

[norseamd]

America is avoiding spending billions on antiquated tracked armor easily destroyed by modern anti-tank weaponry, aircraft, and helicopters. The only thing a tank is good for in 2015 is A) to intimidate and B) to destroy another tank. And they are only good at B if they are very modern.

Not exactly true although you are right that there are more effective investments.

 

[shabby]

I don't think we need to worry.

Im sure china can do a hell of a lot more with 200bil than america can with 600bil, our mil contractors rape the government, while the chinese government rapes its mil contractors, no?

 

[norseamd]

I don't think we need to worry.

We do because most of that goes to waste and corruption in the military-industrial-congressional-intelligence complex.

 

[DigDog]

the US aren't preparing for an actual war - they are preparing for a theoretical war.
they got thousands of advanced designs, ready to be implemented at a moment's notice how and when they need them.
railguns? check.
lasers? check.
microwaves? check.
orbital doomcannons? check.

if russia went to war with the US, i'd bet on the US.

 

[norseamd]

Those look perfect for the occasional occupying/destabilizing of nations that immediately border Russia to prevent them from ever becoming too powerful and thus reducing Russia's buffer zone.

They are more powerful than their predecessors and are all built off the same basic chassis which is something important here. The use of one basic chassis platform simplifies maintenance and reduces costs of producing and maintaining every vehicle.

 

[touchstone]

Not exactly true although you are right that there are more effective investments.

You're right it's not true, apparently we are still building hundreds of stupid Abrams tanks just to give people something to do in Alabama of Georgia where that junk is built.


The Army doesn't even want them, keeps telling congress not to buy them. It's gotten so bad that the army is basically handing out Abrams to any ally that will pay anything at all for them. They go for about as much as an average Mercedes to the Iraqi army and security forces. I think they've even given a few to police departments, but they payed for them (to an extent).


Drones and cyber ops are the future of warfare.

 

[norseamd]

CNN has an article on the T-14 Armata. They referred to it as a medium tank and then multiple times as a main battle tank. That bothered me greatly. Then I thought that I probably should just let it go.

Anyone else have boxes of Micro Armour stashed away somewhere?

Main battle tanks are the currently often used class for most countries around the world who are able to buy new and advanced platforms. The MBT is an evolution of the old medium tank from the 2nd World War.

 

[norseamd]

You're right it's not true, apparently we are still building hundreds of stupid Abrams tanks just to give people something to do in Alabama of Georgia where that junk is built.


The Army doesn't even want them, keeps telling congress not to buy them. It's gotten so bad that the army is basically handing out Abrams to any ally that will pay anything at all for them. They go for about as much as an average Mercedes to the Iraqi army and security forces. I think they've even given a few to police departments, but they payed for them (to an extent).


Drones and cyber ops are the future of warfare.

Everyone said tanks were not worth shit in urban warfare. Experience in the Iraq War shows that premise is not true at all as although tanks are vulnerable they add lots of power to those who use them in addition to infantry.