New robots well trained for war

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Ever since the gulf war it's been evident to me that the gap between militaries that put their hopes behind technology and those that put it behind brute numbers would continue to increase. The rich nations, such as the US, have the means to develop weapons that a less-wealthy nation (read: most nations) simply cannot. These weapons allow an ever decreasing number of casualties for the US side in any given situation and increase the liklihood of success as well.

You could look to the gulf war, or the soon to be gulf war II for examples of how absolutely thoroughly a well equiped military can do against one less so equiped. In time the US army will become more and more reliant upon things like robots, unmanned crafts, etc. to the point where friendly fire is about the only thing the US army would have to worry about.

I can't remember the movie, but it came out a couple years back and took place on mars. There was this robot that was shaped like a dog and exceptionally capable in combat. That is the future. Already the US has predator drones that are attack capable. These things fly around and if one is taken out all that is lost is money and no lives. In time I see no reason why an increasingly large amount of the airforce could be unmanned crafts or other remote such things.
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Ever since the gulf war it's been evident to me that the gap between militaries that put their hopes behind technology and those that put it behind brute numbers would continue to increase. The rich nations, such as the US, have the means to develop weapons that a less-wealthy nation (read: most nations) simply cannot. These weapons allow an ever decreasing number of casualties for the US side in any given situation and increase the liklihood of success as well.

You could look to the gulf war, or the soon to be gulf war II for examples of how absolutely thoroughly a well equiped military can do against one less so equiped. In time the US army will become more and more reliant upon things like robots, unmanned crafts, etc. to the point where friendly fire is about the only thing the US army would have to worry about.

I can't remember the movie, but it came out a couple years back and took place on mars. There was this robot that was shaped like a dog and exceptionally capable in combat. That is the future. Already the US has predator drones that are attack capable. These things fly around and if one is taken out all that is lost is money and no lives. In time I see no reason why an increasingly large amount of the airforce could be unmanned crafts or other remote such things.

Is the move Screamers? Link
 

LordMaul

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Originally posted by: Grey
Funny how we have a thread about machines that are capable of self mobility but it somehow translate into a Starwars geek fight. Laser swords will never happen, you cannot terminate the laser at a fixed length like in the SW universe.

Bullsh!t. I read something recently about how they were creating things that somehow made the light stop and bend back around into the origin, making a lightsaber one step closer. :p
 

Grasshopper27

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Ever since the gulf war it's been evident to me that the gap between militaries that put their hopes behind technology and those that put it behind brute numbers would continue to increase. The rich nations, such as the US, have the means to develop weapons that a less-wealthy nation (read: most nations) simply cannot. These weapons allow an ever decreasing number of casualties for the US side in any given situation and increase the liklihood of success as well.
It has been written that the Gulf War was the most lopsided military victory in history.

As many as 200,000 Iraqi soldiers were killed to what, about 350 allied soliders? The number of allies killed is so low compared to the 750,000 sent over there, it actually was lower than the normal average during peace time.

You could look to the gulf war, or the soon to be gulf war II for examples of how absolutely thoroughly a well equiped military can do against one less so equiped. In time the US army will become more and more reliant upon things like robots, unmanned crafts, etc. to the point where friendly fire is about the only thing the US army would have to worry about.
The ability to destroy your enemy without him having the ability to hit you back is one of the cornerstones of military tatics. Armies have been trying that for thousands of years, finally, I think we're getting there.

When you can kill the enemy from afar and he cannot hurt you back, war becomes a turkey shoot, and ultimatly pointless in the long run.

I can't remember the movie, but it came out a couple years back and took place on mars. There was this robot that was shaped like a dog and exceptionally capable in combat. That is the future. Already the US has predator drones that are attack capable. These things fly around and if one is taken out all that is lost is money and no lives. In time I see no reason why an increasingly large amount of the airforce could be unmanned crafts or other remote such things.

Red Planet with Carrie-Anne Moss (yummy) and Val Kilmer. The robot was indeed impressive, and that is actually something that makes sense and can probably be built within the next 40 years. Put a directed energy weapon on it (laser, particle beam cannon, etc.) and drop a thousand of them behind enemy lines and it is all over before it begins.

Hopper
 

Grey

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Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Grey
Funny how we have a thread about machines that are capable of self mobility but it somehow translate into a Starwars geek fight. Laser swords will never happen, you cannot terminate the laser at a fixed length like in the SW universe.

Bullsh!t. I read something recently about how they were creating things that somehow made the light stop and bend back around into the origin, making a lightsaber one step closer. :p

Really? Damn the only thing I know of that can affect light is a blackhole. Do you have a link?
 

Kev

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"The wars of the future will not be fought on the battlefield or at sea. They will be fought in space, or possibly on top of a very tall mountain. In either case, most of the actual fighting will be done by small robots. And as you go forth today remember always your duty is clear: To build and maintain those robots. Thank you."


The Simpsons predicted this.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I like the idea, if we made sure every country had them and that the robots only destroyed each other. Then maybe people would finally let each other the fvck alone.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
I like the idea, if we made sure every country had them and that the robots only destroyed each other. Then maybe people would finally let each other the fvck alone.

Or we could fight wars in an Massive multiplayer FPS
 

Mookow

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: B00ne
provided the battelers have nukes, the attacked one would just set up a nuke high up in the atmosphere and watch those charging robots stumble as their cicuits burn
We already have tanks with NBC protection, why not robots?

I doubt the EMP from a nuke would shut down future battle robots. ;)

Hopper

You can shield circuits from EMP.
 

Mookow

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Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: Mookow
You can shield circuits from EMP.
Yea, isn't that what I said?

Not specifically. I was talking more to the person that you quoted, but I was being too lazy to scroll up to his post :p
 

LordMaul

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Originally posted by: Grey
Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Grey
Funny how we have a thread about machines that are capable of self mobility but it somehow translate into a Starwars geek fight. Laser swords will never happen, you cannot terminate the laser at a fixed length like in the SW universe.

Bullsh!t. I read something recently about how they were creating things that somehow made the light stop and bend back around into the origin, making a lightsaber one step closer. :p

Really? Damn the only thing I know of that can affect light is a blackhole. Do you have a link?

No, sorry....I think I saw it on Slashdot about a year ago. All I remember was how they were talking about bending light, making it possible for a finite beam being projected. It still wouldn't "clash" like a lightsaber, but still... :)
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Grey
Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Grey
Funny how we have a thread about machines that are capable of self mobility but it somehow translate into a Starwars geek fight. Laser swords will never happen, you cannot terminate the laser at a fixed length like in the SW universe.

Bullsh!t. I read something recently about how they were creating things that somehow made the light stop and bend back around into the origin, making a lightsaber one step closer. :p

Really? Damn the only thing I know of that can affect light is a blackhole. Do you have a link?

No, sorry....I think I saw it on Slashdot about a year ago. All I remember was how they were talking about bending light, making it possible for a finite beam being projected. It still wouldn't "clash" like a lightsaber, but still... :)

I remember reading an article in someting on this very thing. Probably Scientific American.