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DrDoug

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Just counted, that was 11 examples. To your zero so far. Cheers tough guy.

Congratulations, you learned to count! Unfortunately, you haven't learned that when someone disagrees with you it doesn't make them a "tough guy", no matter how much it hurts your feelings.

How about some statistics, Sparky? Or is this all you've got.
 

UglyCasanova

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Sounds like a an e-tough guy to me. Personal attacks. Miserable. You’d fire me. Challenged. Cursing. Claim is bullshit. Sounds tough. I’m able to disagree with folks without all of that. I guess that helps you out though.

Once again, you pulled something out of your ass and can't back it up when challenged so you try to push disproving your bullshit claim off on to me...lol! I bet you're even a more miserable person IRL. Oh, and I'm not your boss.

I'd fire your ass if I was.
 

DrDoug

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Sounds like a an e-tough guy to me. Personal attacks. Miserable. You’d fire me. Challenged. Cursing. Claim is bullshit. Sounds tough. I’m able to disagree with folks without all of that. I guess that helps you out though.

IOW, you can dish it out but you can't take it. Typical conservative whiner...lol! You pull crap out of your ass that you get challenged on. You fire back a smart-assed response and refuse to back your shit up. I fire back with a smart-assed quip about something YOU called me and you go all whiney-assed conservative.

Suck it up, Sparky. Back your shit up when you get called on it and you wouldn't have this problem.
 
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ecogen

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Oooh yes sir! Queue NDT's "watch out we’ve got a badass over here" meme.

Asking someone to retract a statement that they pulled out of their ass and can't back up is somehow trying to seem like a badass? Cool, I guess.
 

DrDoug

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Asking someone to retract a statement that they pulled out of their ass and can't back up is somehow trying to seem like a badass? Cool, I guess.

It just means that he's got nothing, as usual. UC is the kind of guy that looks for excuses for behavior that he approves of. If it's racism, misogyny or whatever else that involved hatred, he's here making excuses for it. In this case, he's claiming that there's a 90% chance that the victim in this case is lying. He can't back up his bullshit when called on it so he goes full metal moron. I like the thumbs down from him...lol! If he checks the thumbs down he's received he'll note that I've never done likewise. Nor will I ever. Petty little guy, eh?

If I remember correctly, he's a southern conservative. Enough said.
 
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UglyCasanova

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Go look on page 1, said I pulled it out of my ass. Lets not argue the 11 examples of this turning out to be fake, let’s focus on the zero anyone else has offered up showing otherwise. This board is full of brilliant fellas that’s "arguements" are personal attacks and avoiding substance for the easy outs of semantics and technicalities. If you think avoiding the arguement that allegations like this are commonly found to be fake with a lame one of UC said 90% that should show anybody with a head on their shoulders all they need to know.

:beermug:
 
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cytg111

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Just counted, that was 11 examples. To your zero so far. Cheers tough guy.
So to your mind, the odds are now 11 to 0 that it is ... minority groups making up racism towards themselves. Its totally a ponzi scheme. I mean this is how the universe works, understanding this is your oppertunity to earn your way to the next level.
If you are Alex Jones.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Go look on page 1, said I pulled it out of my ass. Lets not argue the 11 examples of this turning out to be fake, let’s focus on the zero anyone else has offered up showing otherwise. This board is full of brilliant fellas that’s "arguements" are personal attacks and avoiding substance for the easy outs of semantics and technicalities. If you think avoiding the arguement that allegations like this are commonly found to be fake with a lame one of UC said 90% that should show anybody with a head on their shoulders all they need to know.

:beermug:

Fair troll post. You proffer the stat, post examples of false events, dig in and tell others they're wrong cuz reasons, and now want to bail on supporting your stat.

If you continue to wonder why people don't think you engage honestly, save this thread, on top of the many others

It seems you live by the standard conservative motto "do as I say not as I do", demanding more from others than you're willing or able to do.
 
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UglyCasanova

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So to your mind, the odds are now 11 to 0 that it is ... minority groups making up racism towards themselves. Its totally a ponzi scheme. I mean this is how the universe works, understanding this is your oppertunity to earn your way to the next level.
If you are Alex Jones.


I think it’s 11 to 0 in this thread. And The one in the OP up in the air, but any time is smells funny it usually is. And I’d say a frickin noose and Whites Only scribbled on the wall and now a lawsuit smells a little funny.

Real life, nah. But only the dishonest poster right below you thinks this thread is about stats.
 

cytg111

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I think it’s 11 to 0 in this thread. And The one in the OP up in the air, but any time is smells funny it usually is. And I’d say a frickin noose and Whites Only scribbled on the wall and now a lawsuit smells a little funny.

Real life, nah. But only the dishonest poster right below you thinks this thread is about stats.
Cmon man, you cited 90%, then began to list stories of what I assume is false flag stroies.. You understand how these stories prove nothing in regard to your 90% claim right? Its totally unsubstantiated at any level of coherent thought.. IF those stories hold up, all they prove is that false flag operations exists.. And of course they do.. Russian interference in 2016 was massive false flags on "both sides"... I just dont see where any of this adds to the debate.. racism exists and trends showing its on the rise, can mayhaps be tied to rise of trumpism. You want me to find links to those stories?
 

HomerJS

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How bout you post some boss, should be easy.
That was already done here in the YAEWBT and the cases almost double what you posted. I asked a question how many people faking being a victim of a hate crime take it all the way to court? My out of my ass guess is 1% and that is far closer to the truth then your 90%

Needless to say you have one again been proven just to be another Russian troll bot
 

FirNaTine

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A little off topic, but when did a hangmen's noose become a symbol for racism?

It may not always be, but it often is. I won't try to pull out a percentage ;) , though I'd suspect it's pretty high.

I teach firefighting classes to a variety of audiences, but frequently to high school Vo Tech programs. One of the first lessons is ropes and knots. Unfortunately, because it's happened before in other programs we warn the kids that anyone caught making anything close will be immediately referred for discipline. (Usually very poorly thought out joking or boredom, that can end in very serious consequences)

Because A it can be, and often is racially motivated, and B has absolutely no legitimate reason to be in class.

I don't care if you're intending to be racist by it or not, if you're dumb enough to do something like that, I want you flushed before you embarrass any of the rest of us. Similarly, anyone dumb enough to do this in a work place needs to be shown the door regardless of intent. They're a shit show waiting to happen.

I don't claim to definitely know what's in another's heart or head (or lack thereof), but actions like these can only come from so many motivations, none of which is acceptable.
 
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Vic

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I'm not going to say that this is "highly suspect" but I will at least acknowledge that this has happened in the past.

Similar to rape allegations, I don't believe in the "listen and believe" narrative of accusations of guilt prior to any evidence.

God forbid we have rational thought before frothing at the mouth of accus--- I SAID HE IS FUCKING GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT! CUT OFF HIS HEAD! IF he is found not guilty we will sew it back on.
This seems like a sane attitude, if one is unaware of how inconsistently you and Ugly apply it.
 
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UglyCasanova

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Cmon man, you cited 90%, then began to list stories of what I assume is false flag stroies.. You understand how these stories prove nothing in regard to your 90% claim right?


Lame arguement to pretend like you’re making but you’re the one looking foolish by it not me.
 

cytg111

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Lame arguement to pretend like you’re making but you’re the one looking foolish by it not me.
Lame to you logic to me. You are never EVER going to prove something quantitative by citing qualitative examples... they sit at the far end of the spectrum opposed to eachother.
Ask someone you trust with a degree in statistics and get back to me.
 

zinfamous

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I'll add that having witnessed a man hanged from a tree, it's an extremely disturbing sight. A picture doesn't even begin to describe it. I saw it 30 years ago and remember it like it happened yesterday.

holy crap man--do elaborate?
 

HurleyBird

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I have no idea what the rate of fake to non-fake is, but I remember reading of several similar instances of this kind of event which later turning out to be illegitimate. I can't off the top of my head think of one that didn't end up a hoax. There's probably a selection bias at play since the hoaxers are out to get attention in the first place, and this event very well could be going out of its way to get attention too (I mean, there's a freaking noose involved). Even if most of these high profile events seem to be faked, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there are many lower profile events which aren't. On the other hand, while if this would have happened at a university like most of the hoaxes I've heard about seem to be I'd put good money on the event being staged... if there's a place where this kind of thing would be likely to be legitimate it would be somewhere like a GM factory. So there's that.

So instead of making potential assholes of ourselves over something that could easily go either way, why not just wait a few days to see how thing unfold?
 
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hal2kilo

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That was already done here in the YAEWBT and the cases almost double what you posted. I asked a question how many people faking being a victim of a hate crime take it all the way to court? My out of my ass guess is 1% and that is far closer to the truth then your 90%

Needless to say you have one again been proven just to be another Russian troll bot
He's not a Russian trollbot, he's just got this agenda he's got to portray of being very very concerned and surprised that people see he has no clothes. Crave attention much.