New Q3 Patch v1.27 -- Fixes Geforce TC (added pictures)

[Traumahound]

Saw on Voodooextreme that id released the latest Quake 3 patch.

I downloaded it and it totally fixes the Quake3 Sky Problem. The sky looks much better now. Darn near perfect as far as I can tell.

See? It was id's problem...

Anyways, those who are interested can grab the patch here.

Have fun, but be warned that this patch will break compatibility with most (all?) mods.

Edit: Some sample pics available here. (source was 1152x864x32 with max texture detail)

 

[BFG10K]

I think S3TC is simply turned off by default, just like it was in the 1.25 release.

 

[oldfart]

Check your q3config.cfg. It should be setup like this for tex compression:

seta r_ext_compress_textures "1"

Set it up this way and try it again. Be sure to put up some screenshots so we can see how it looks.

 

[lsd]

I checked it, It was enabled by default.

 

[BFG10K]

Don't forget to run some benchmarks and check for bugs.
Are the old timedemos still there? Do the bots still play the same as 1.17?

 

[Cknyc]

is that official or still a beta?


Just checked its official..

 

[Noriaki]

Did they actually disable TC on light maps? (fix it properly?)

 

[Remedy]

Well its damn near 2001 and they are just now fixing it?

 

[lsd]

Here's another Pic (300KB :|)
Note that Jpeg compression causes some loss of quality. I tried to benchmark but I think Team Arena is required to do it.
I dont think TC was fixed.....

 

[oldfart]

I just installed the patch. I deleted my q3config.cfg file and let Q3 build a new one. Texture compression is OFF by default. seta r_ext_compressed_textures "0" is the default config, just like it was in 1.25.

 

[lsd]

Yeah you're right, I must be in La LA land
BTW: my pic shows S3TC on, but I think trama's shows it off.

 

[BFG10K]

Hey guys, don't forget to answer my questions!

 

[oldfart]

Timedemos dont work :| as far as I can tell. The AI is supposed to be better. Cant tell yet. Looks like the CD check is gone also.

 

[2dfx]

I heard they stopped the compression of lightmaps, which was what caused the discolouration artifacts.

 

[oldfart]

From the readme:

Fixes and Additions
- fixed several predictable player event problems
- made entity events more reliable
- fixed sv_minping
- fixed setting "sv_maxclients 0" causes crash upon match restart when the server is full with clients
- print gametype name when voting for a new game type
- fixed sometimes getting spawned into others in tournament mode
- fixed "sudden death" and "5 minute warning" sounds overlapping on server entry
- optimized file system memory usage, can now easily load 100+ pk3 files
- fixed icon heads when loading a map in teamplay
- fixed several zone memory leaks causing Z_MALOC failure
- fixed auto weapon switch when picking up the weapon held before a map restart
- fixed falling off map due to old movement after map_restart
- fixed chatting from dedicated server console
- added better error handling to auto-downloading
- added "noglobalsound" option for items
- improved bot AI
- fixed bots taking same path through enemy base in CTF
- fixed bot gauntlet usage
- cg_forceModel works without vid_restart
- CD keys no longer overwritten
- Typing % in chat text causes the client to be disconnected with an illegible server message
- Removed Global Rankings support. We are currently investigating the best approach to properly integrate Global Rankings into Quake III Arena and Quake III: Team Arena
- Various speed tweaks
- VM Optimazation to bring vm speed closer to DLL speed
- Cinematic support available to mod developers

Known Issues
- Launching demos from the user interface does not work. To play a demo back, go to the console and type "demo demofilename" without the quotes. This is a bug that cropped up when we changed the extension for demos so they include the protocol number so demos show up properly in menus. This will be addressed in a later patch.

 

[BFG10K]

Oldfart, thanks for taking the time to post that readme.

-fixed auto weapon switch when picking up the weapon held before a map restart
-improved bot AI

You've got me to thank for those. I sent Carmack a bug report with those things in it.

-Various speed tweaks
-VM Optimazation to bring vm speed closer to DLL speed

Interesting. Of course without the old timedemos we'll never know how much of a boost these produce.

To play a demo back, go to the console and type "demo demofilename" without the quotes.

Has anybody got this to work?

 

[DaveB3D]

They might have killed the flag on certain textures so they don't get compressed. Sorta like ATI does, but earlier on.

 

[sparkle]

Well, I got it, runs kinda slow IMO. and it is not finding all the files it needs ie:gibs, player sounds. Any ideas>?

 

[Traumahound]

I checked on the r_ext_compress_textures variable as old fart suggested. Mine was set 1, however there is also an r_ext_compressed_textures variable which was set to 0. Setting it to 1 (so that both compression variables were 1) resulted in the ugly, ugly sky again.

Now, I'm wondering... were the always the two variables? I don't recall both of them being there before. Perhaps they are doing as Dave suggested and not compressing the 128x128 textures by default, but, instead, using a different variable to set the compression of those textures. Any ideas? Or, were there always the two variables and I just have a bad memory?

Unfortunately, it's now time to go to work... :frown:

 

[oldfart]

The r_ext_compress_textures variable is used in the 1.17 version. The r_ext_compressed_textures variable is used in the 1.27 version. If you have Q3 1.27 make a new q3config.cfg, it will only have the latter one. Looking through the config files, there are quite a few changes like this. I would suggest nuking your old config to force Q3 make a new one. I wish the darn timedemos weren't broken.

 

[Smbu]

Does the new patch fix the ugly sky, or did it just disable texture compression?

 

[oldfart]

Disables tex compression (by default).

 

[Dug]

I like the fixes, but I want my timedemo back.

 

[Cknyc]

It seems quicker on my computer.

 

[oldfart]

Ditto. If the old timedemos dont work, why not make new ones available?