New Powerbooks *DROOL*

[ShotgunSteven]

Will they ever put a larger keyboard on the bigger PowerBooks? I hate having the same size keyboard regardless of how wide the laptop itself is.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Will they ever put a larger keyboard on the bigger PowerBooks? I hate having the same size keyboard regardless of how wide the laptop itself is.

I think it's a good idea. It standardizes things. Helps keep them simpler and cheaper.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
EyeMWing

what about software included? ILife is supposed to be amazing.

Stability, looks, form and function and feel all go to apple. the only reason to get a Windows laptop is ifyou run windows only programs, or game and there is very little reason to use a laptop to game. otherwise apple has everything nexessary for one of the best laptops out there.

MIKE

From what I understand, iLife is additional cash. Not too terribly sure, and I'm also not positive on what exactly it includes. But I can tell you that Garage Band and iMovie and the other basic software are on-par with freely or cheaply available stuff on PC. iMovie = Windows Movie Maker. iDVD = Adobe Encore ($100?). GarageBand = Adobe Audition ($50) But still, even if you bought all the software to bring a PC up to par with the mac's software package, I can GUARANTEE it wouldn't total $1000.

And go sit on your "Stability" argument. The damn thing is on for 4 hours at a time, MAX. Both of them can hibernate.

Also, well, it seems to me that saving $1000 would be a worthy reason for sacraficing the little tiny bit of style the Apple gives you. The mac won't get you girls. If you're carrying a laptop, it doesn't matter WTF the laptop is. Girls may have more of an "ooooh, shiny!" reaction and come pet your laptop, but that DOESN'T mean that they'll pet you later. Besides, do you really want their fingers smuding up that titanium finish?

Apple laptops are overrated.

have you ever gone to apple.com?

its on the GOD DAMN FRONT PAGE

http://www.apple.com/

check it out

itincludes

iPhoto 5 - 163MB

iMovie HD - 63MB

iDVD 5 - 1.46GB

GarageBand 2 - 63MB

iTunes 4.7 - 30MB

now anand raved abuot everything he tried, it wasnt the best, but it was a great product.

id say the total there is a good amount of change. and dont forget education discount for most ppl.

MIKE

iPhoto = Built-in Windows image viewer + Photoshop Elements ($100)
iMovie HD = Windows Movie Maker (Ignore the "HD" crap, nobody that owns an HD camera is going to edit on iMovie) ($0)
iDVD = Sonic MyDVD ($80)
GarageBand = Adobe Audition ($300)
iTunes = iTunes ($0)

It's still pretty damned clear where the advantage lies, since chances are you don't need all the firepower that those Adobe products give you (much of which is left out of the Apple equivalents) if you need that stuff AT ALL. I'm sure there are also better matches, the Adobe products are just the only ones I'm familiar with.

You won't win on Apple being the better deal monetarily - EVAR.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
EyeMWing

what about software included? ILife is supposed to be amazing.

Stability, looks, form and function and feel all go to apple. the only reason to get a Windows laptop is ifyou run windows only programs, or game and there is very little reason to use a laptop to game. otherwise apple has everything nexessary for one of the best laptops out there.

MIKE

From what I understand, iLife is additional cash. Not too terribly sure, and I'm also not positive on what exactly it includes. But I can tell you that Garage Band and iMovie and the other basic software are on-par with freely or cheaply available stuff on PC. iMovie = Windows Movie Maker. iDVD = Adobe Encore ($100?). GarageBand = Adobe Audition ($50) But still, even if you bought all the software to bring a PC up to par with the mac's software package, I can GUARANTEE it wouldn't total $1000.

And go sit on your "Stability" argument. The damn thing is on for 4 hours at a time, MAX. Both of them can hibernate.

Also, well, it seems to me that saving $1000 would be a worthy reason for sacraficing the little tiny bit of style the Apple gives you. The mac won't get you girls. If you're carrying a laptop, it doesn't matter WTF the laptop is. Girls may have more of an "ooooh, shiny!" reaction and come pet your laptop, but that DOESN'T mean that they'll pet you later. Besides, do you really want their fingers smuding up that titanium finish?

Apple laptops are overrated.

have you ever gone to apple.com?

its on the GOD DAMN FRONT PAGE

http://www.apple.com/

check it out

itincludes

iPhoto 5 - 163MB

iMovie HD - 63MB

iDVD 5 - 1.46GB

GarageBand 2 - 63MB

iTunes 4.7 - 30MB

now anand raved abuot everything he tried, it wasnt the best, but it was a great product.

id say the total there is a good amount of change. and dont forget education discount for most ppl.

MIKE

iPhoto = Built-in Windows image viewer + Photoshop Elements ($100)
iMovie HD = Windows Movie Maker (Ignore the "HD" crap, nobody that owns an HD camera is going to edit on iMovie) ($0)
iDVD = Sonic MyDVD ($80)
GarageBand = Adobe Audition ($300)
iTunes = iTunes ($0)

It's still pretty damned clear where the advantage lies, since chances are you don't need all the firepower that those Adobe products give you (much of which is left out of the Apple equivalents) if you need that stuff AT ALL. I'm sure there are also better matches, the Adobe products are just the only ones I'm familiar with.

You won't win on Apple being the better deal monetarily - EVAR.

How about with a major manufacturer that supports a *nix based OS. Or a *nix based OS that isn't linux. ew. The only other one I can think of is tadpole, and they're even more expensive.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Apple = superior size, weight, battery life, and has the new brace-for-impact hard drives.

EyeMWing = Fat Douche

Hmm, what shall I pick.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
$1700 for a laptop? Sorry, I'll take a comperably-equipped Compaq A64 laptop for $500 less (Or my own branded slightly-lesser-equipped for $600 less)

Compaq doesn't make a comparable laptop (one with a 15" screen and 1" thickness). You're bullshit company that you keep plugging on these forums doesn't either so STFU.

Agreed that the thickness isn't there - but the horsepower certainly is. And as for Compaq, they don't make the laptop. I don't either. Quanta builds both - the only difference being between the two is that I get them from a wholesaler, Compaq gets them direct. Exact same casing, damn near the exact same equipment, only thing different is the logo on the lid (and in the BIOS)

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
$1700 for a laptop? Sorry, I'll take a comperably-equipped Compaq A64 laptop for $500 less (Or my own branded slightly-lesser-equipped for $600 less)

Hahahahahahahah.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahah.

Oh man, you are a funny guy.

Have you actually seen a Powerbook in real life? Ever used one? There is no comparison to the look, feel and construction quality in the pc world, not to mention in regards to features, weight and price it is very comparable to a high-end pc laptop.

Then again, I might be biased as I'm typing this out now on my G4 PB

Yes - I've used a Powerbook in real life. Wasn't terribly impressed after the initial "Oh, wow, it looks kinda cool." Then I realized that it's just a mac, and a mac with a lightweight metal construction. My Compaq/house brand unit has a plastic casing, but is on a metal frame. Good luck dropping either of them, though. Your $500 Apple finish will be fubarred, and my case would be cracked.

Features?
My brand.
15" SXGA+ 1400 x 1050
512mb RAM
8x DVDRW
128MB ATI M11P Video (Mobility 9700)
80GB HDD (5400RPM)
Gig LAN, modem
802.11g onboard
Athlon64 2800+
XP Home
3 year no-questions-asked warranty
3-4 hour idling battery time
$1664 from the distributor, $1800 from me.


Compaq
15" Presario R3000Z
512mb RAM
8x DVDRW
64mb GeForce 4 Go
80gb HDD (4200RPM)
10/100 LAN, modem
802.11g onboard
Athlon64 3000+
XP Home
3 year accidental damage warranty
3-4 hour idling battery time
$1573

Apple
15" Powerbook
512mb RAM
8x DVDRW
128mb Mobility 9700
80gb HDD (5400RPM)
802.11g onboard (That's your Airport Extreme)
G4 1.67GHz
OSX
3 year warranty
3-4 hour battery idling time
$2750

Where are the differences in features? Oh, the G4 vs. the Athlon64. It's very, very, very well known what wins THAT contest, and OSX vs. WinXP. A matter of solid preference. More than $1000 in price - is OSX and looking stylish THAT important to you? These things aren't terribly heavy, either, unless you're a stringbean. Your manpurse that matches with your G4 probably makes up for the size and weight difference.

You guys are too easily excited by shiny things.

Don't mention that the Compaq is almost 10lbs :roll:

Since you, very obviously, are a cheap ass who will do anything to save a buck, while I, like many others, prefer quality over quantity, we can never agree.

BTW, do people really buy "your brand"? I mean, do you actually find people willing to buy "JoeBob's homebrew computer and boat anchor?"

Mine is actually the exact same unit as the Compaq, just a few minor hardware differences. I've sold 10 of them to date, mostly to college-bound classmates who know that I'm not yanking their chains. The real question is "Where the fvck did you get the cajones to send $1300 to a bumfvck distributor in hopes of getting an honest-to-god unbranded laptop?" I was drunk.

10lbs is not heavy. I've carried textbooks heavier than that.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
EyeMWing

what about software included? ILife is supposed to be amazing.

Stability, looks, form and function and feel all go to apple. the only reason to get a Windows laptop is ifyou run windows only programs, or game and there is very little reason to use a laptop to game. otherwise apple has everything nexessary for one of the best laptops out there.

MIKE

From what I understand, iLife is additional cash. Not too terribly sure, and I'm also not positive on what exactly it includes. But I can tell you that Garage Band and iMovie and the other basic software are on-par with freely or cheaply available stuff on PC. iMovie = Windows Movie Maker. iDVD = Adobe Encore ($100?). GarageBand = Adobe Audition ($50) But still, even if you bought all the software to bring a PC up to par with the mac's software package, I can GUARANTEE it wouldn't total $1000.

And go sit on your "Stability" argument. The damn thing is on for 4 hours at a time, MAX. Both of them can hibernate.

Also, well, it seems to me that saving $1000 would be a worthy reason for sacraficing the little tiny bit of style the Apple gives you. The mac won't get you girls. If you're carrying a laptop, it doesn't matter WTF the laptop is. Girls may have more of an "ooooh, shiny!" reaction and come pet your laptop, but that DOESN'T mean that they'll pet you later. Besides, do you really want their fingers smuding up that titanium finish?

Apple laptops are overrated.

have you ever gone to apple.com?

its on the GOD DAMN FRONT PAGE

http://www.apple.com/

check it out

itincludes

iPhoto 5 - 163MB

iMovie HD - 63MB

iDVD 5 - 1.46GB

GarageBand 2 - 63MB

iTunes 4.7 - 30MB

now anand raved abuot everything he tried, it wasnt the best, but it was a great product.

id say the total there is a good amount of change. and dont forget education discount for most ppl.

MIKE

iPhoto = Built-in Windows image viewer + Photoshop Elements ($100)
iMovie HD = Windows Movie Maker (Ignore the "HD" crap, nobody that owns an HD camera is going to edit on iMovie) ($0)
iDVD = Sonic MyDVD ($80)
GarageBand = Adobe Audition ($300)
iTunes = iTunes ($0)

It's still pretty damned clear where the advantage lies, since chances are you don't need all the firepower that those Adobe products give you (much of which is left out of the Apple equivalents) if you need that stuff AT ALL. I'm sure there are also better matches, the Adobe products are just the only ones I'm familiar with.

You won't win on Apple being the better deal monetarily - EVAR.

How about with a major manufacturer that supports a *nix based OS. Or a *nix based OS that isn't linux. ew. The only other one I can think of is tadpole, and they're even more expensive.

Apple officially supports anything other than OSX? I swear to god I remember seeing "NO SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE" all over the page for downloading Darwin.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Apple officially supports anything other than OSX? I swear to god I remember seeing "NO SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE" all over the page for downloading Darwin.

Eh? Why would they need to support something else? Mac OS X is a *nix based OS.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Will they ever put a larger keyboard on the bigger PowerBooks? I hate having the same size keyboard regardless of how wide the laptop itself is.

I think it's a good idea. It standardizes things. Helps keep them simpler and cheaper.

I would pay more for one with a bigger keyboard.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Will they ever put a larger keyboard on the bigger PowerBooks? I hate having the same size keyboard regardless of how wide the laptop itself is.

I think it's a good idea. It standardizes things. Helps keep them simpler and cheaper.

I would pay more for one with a bigger keyboard.

I've got big hands, and I think the keyboard's just fine. Take your mittens off.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Will they ever put a larger keyboard on the bigger PowerBooks? I hate having the same size keyboard regardless of how wide the laptop itself is.

I think it's a good idea. It standardizes things. Helps keep them simpler and cheaper.

I would pay more for one with a bigger keyboard.

I've got big hands, and I think the keyboard's just fine. Take your mittens off.

No way, it's about forty below outside and this room's main heat source is my Athlon Thunderbird.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
$1700 for a laptop? Sorry, I'll take a comperably-equipped Compaq A64 laptop for $500 less (Or my own branded slightly-lesser-equipped for $600 less)

Compaq doesn't make a comparable laptop (one with a 15" screen and 1" thickness). You're bullshit company that you keep plugging on these forums doesn't either so STFU.

Agreed that the thickness isn't there - but the horsepower certainly is. And as for Compaq, they don't make the laptop. I don't either. Quanta builds both - the only difference being between the two is that I get them from a wholesaler, Compaq gets them direct. Exact same casing, damn near the exact same equipment, only thing different is the logo on the lid (and in the BIOS)

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
$1700 for a laptop? Sorry, I'll take a comperably-equipped Compaq A64 laptop for $500 less (Or my own branded slightly-lesser-equipped for $600 less)

Hahahahahahahah.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahah.

Oh man, you are a funny guy.

Have you actually seen a Powerbook in real life? Ever used one? There is no comparison to the look, feel and construction quality in the pc world, not to mention in regards to features, weight and price it is very comparable to a high-end pc laptop.

Then again, I might be biased as I'm typing this out now on my G4 PB

Yes - I've used a Powerbook in real life. Wasn't terribly impressed after the initial "Oh, wow, it looks kinda cool." Then I realized that it's just a mac, and a mac with a lightweight metal construction. My Compaq/house brand unit has a plastic casing, but is on a metal frame. Good luck dropping either of them, though. Your $500 Apple finish will be fubarred, and my case would be cracked.

Features?
My brand.
15" SXGA+ 1400 x 1050
512mb RAM
8x DVDRW
128MB ATI M11P Video (Mobility 9700)
80GB HDD (5400RPM)
Gig LAN, modem
802.11g onboard
Athlon64 2800+
XP Home
3 year no-questions-asked warranty
3-4 hour idling battery time
$1664 from the distributor, $1800 from me.


Compaq
15" Presario R3000Z
512mb RAM
8x DVDRW
64mb GeForce 4 Go
80gb HDD (4200RPM)
10/100 LAN, modem
802.11g onboard
Athlon64 3000+
XP Home
3 year accidental damage warranty
3-4 hour idling battery time
$1573

Apple
15" Powerbook
512mb RAM
8x DVDRW
128mb Mobility 9700
80gb HDD (5400RPM)
802.11g onboard (That's your Airport Extreme)
G4 1.67GHz
OSX
3 year warranty
3-4 hour battery idling time
$2750

Where are the differences in features? Oh, the G4 vs. the Athlon64. It's very, very, very well known what wins THAT contest, and OSX vs. WinXP. A matter of solid preference. More than $1000 in price - is OSX and looking stylish THAT important to you? These things aren't terribly heavy, either, unless you're a stringbean. Your manpurse that matches with your G4 probably makes up for the size and weight difference.

You guys are too easily excited by shiny things.

Two and a half pounds(how much heavier the Compaq is than the Powerbook) isn't a lot of weight, but the Compaq is 50% heavier than the Powerbook which is a pretty significant increase. You can really tell when you cary a light laptop around, then go to a much bigger one.
Obviously, your issues are with light laptops in general, because anything with the Powerbook's weight and dimensions in the pc world would garner a similar price tag.

Plus you get, in my opinion, a superior OS and a very cool brushed aluminum case.