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Originally posted by: taco1435
The Enhance PSU does look good, but I don't know anything about that company. I have the 450w FSP as well, and it is very solid. Powers my 7900 gt/Opteron165/2 gigs of memory rig. So should be plenty of power for you. It's also very quiet. That Enhance psu looks like its worth looking into though. It is rated better than the FSP so... do whatever you want. Both are probably fine.
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Enhance uses Teapo capacitors in thier units. The AX series of Fortron uses Fuhjyyu.

Teapo don't do well on mainboards serving the VRM but do quite well in ventilated
PSUs(no silent fans). They can give years or reliable service.

Fuhjju are craps and don't live long on mainboards and have short lives in PSUs.
The antec PSUs that kill hardware have Fuhjju inplace.

...Galvanized

 
As far as i've seen, if Galvanized or jonnyGuru recommend a PSU, it's at least worth the money, if not the best in the range. Suffice to say, follow either of them and you'll have a solid PSU. Anyway, that enhance for $65US looks like a great deal (i'm looking at upgrading PSU when i upgrade pc), but i've got a question, does it have sleeved cables? (not a big issue, but i'd rather have them than have to add them myself or go without).
 
You know, GY... Sometimes you just need a bigger hammer to knock some sense into these kids. 😉

I'm getting a couple more Silverstones, BTW. One is based on that 80 Plus Enhance I was looking for! 🙂
 
Originally posted by: acegazda
how does the enhance achieve such quality and how should i judge psus in the future?
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Experience.

Enhance has been around for twenty years. Ask any old guy around here and they'll tell you that "back in the day" the only "high end" power supplies out there were FSP, Enhance and Enermax (I don't include PCP&C in that mix because back 10 years ago it was a lot more obvious than it is today that PCP&C were just rebadging.)

When Enlight was a household name for better quality chassis, Enhance built their power supplies. Including insance 3x redundant units for file servers that stood 3' tall. 🙂

To give you an idea of how much the industry's changed: Antec was a complete joke back then because they were trying to sell mediocre product at Enhance, Enermax or FSP prices. But because they're an American company and neither Enhance, Enermax nor FSP are, they put forth excellent marketing sense and managed to brainwash PC users by the thousands.

And if I've learned anything over the years... DIY PC users are easy to brainwash. 😉

The brands to stick with the most would be those that have their own factories (Enhance, FSP, Seasonic) or work very closely with the factory (Enermax, PCP&C, Supermicro.)

Rebadges can often get you in trouble. Not only are you paying more for a middle man to slap a label on a product, but you're also running the risk that the label that's being slapped on the product isn't a true representation of the power supply under the wolf's clothing (read: Aspire, MGE/XG, Cooler Master.)

Unfortunately, some perfectly fine brands have no direct distro in the states (Wintech, Seventeam, Andyson) so finding a quality unit can be difficult.

That's why Rosewill is so tough to nail. Newegg goes over to Taiwan and China, says, "We like this, and this, and this" and brings back product from several different factories.. good and bad! They even have factory recruitment programs where factories come to THEM with product at shows like CeBit and Computex! But when it comes to in-house engineering, there's zero. Even Antec has guys that are techs or engineers working in their US office so there's some accountability! Newegg can't really say that.

Now I'm going to wait for Googer to come in and give his public service announcement before I say any more. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Nextman916
even over an antec? I thought they were one of the most reliable psu's on the market, not only is it sli certified but offers better performance than the fortron in about everyway. Can i get a few more opinions, i guess is everyone recommends fortron ill go for it?
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No they are not. PC Power and Cooling makes the most reliable PSU's on the market.
 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Nextman916
even over an antec? I thought they were one of the most reliable psu's on the market, not only is it sli certified but offers better performance than the fortron in about everyway. Can i get a few more opinions, i guess is everyone recommends fortron ill go for it?
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No they are not. http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/power_supplies/high-performance/">PC Power and Cooling</a> makes the most reliable PSU's on the market.
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Even that's not true. There are plenty of accounts of failed PCP&C units out there. IMHO, quite a few considering how low of a volume (compared to mass retail brands) they do.

 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Nextman916
even over an antec? I thought they were one of the most reliable psu's on the market, not only is it sli certified but offers better performance than the fortron in about everyway. Can i get a few more opinions, i guess is everyone recommends fortron ill go for it?
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No they are not. http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/power_supplies/high-performance/">PC Power and Cooling</a> makes the most reliable PSU's on the market.
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Wow.

You linked to PCP&C's site, so that must mean its true? :laugh:


OP, there are only two people in this thread who actually know what they are talking about, & nope i ain't one of them.

Those two people = johnnyGURU & GalvanizedYankee


 
Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Nextman916
even over an antec? I thought they were one of the most reliable psu's on the market, not only is it sli certified but offers better performance than the fortron in about everyway. Can i get a few more opinions, i guess is everyone recommends fortron ill go for it?
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No they are not. http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/power_supplies/high-performance/">PC Power and Cooling</a> makes the most reliable PSU's on the market.
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Wow.

You linked to PCP&C's site, so that must mean its true? :laugh:


OP, there are only two people in this thread who actually know what they are talking about, & nope i ain't one of them.

Those two people = johnnyGURU & GalvanizedYankee
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That was a bad link job on my part.

You are correct, even a Toyota will break down from time to time. Every thing in this world is subject to failure. But should something go wrong a 5 year warrenty will cover your hide. PC Power and Cooling are one of the few industrial (rated) grade of PSU's for the PC.

Maybe he will correct me on this, but Galvanized Yankee has said to me that PC Power and Cooling are expensive; he does not bash the quality, just the price.

Fortron is great but if he is looking for an alternative Budget Recomendation


Antec's EPS 550 is a nice way to go.
 
I will not/have not based PCP&C's quality. I'm merely pointing out that they are not infallible.
 
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
I will not/have not based PCP&C's quality. I'm merely pointing out that they are not infallible.
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Agreed, no matter what brand you choose; there is always an oportunity for failure.

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Googer

Maybe he will correct me on this, but Galvanized Yankee has said to me that PC Power and Cooling are expensive; he does not bash the quality, just the price.

Fortron is great but if he is looking for an alternative Budget Recomendation


Antec's EPS 550 is a nice way to go.
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Re. PCP&C, not once have I bad mouthed them. If I had $200 and wanted/needed a high
end uber power house, a Zippy/Emacs PSM-0660P would be bought from buildtoorderservers.com
for $199. Or a SuperMicro PWS-0060 would be Froogled at <$120 for 12V@46A on one rail.

The Antec you linked comes up short compared to the Enhance ENP-5150G. The Antec hides
40A on the 5V line no one needs and is far less efficient with lesser build quality, running
dual 80mm noisy fans, plus it costs more. Kripes!! Seem to come up short everywhere.


...Galvanized

 
Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Originally posted by: Googer

Maybe he will correct me on this, but Galvanized Yankee has said to me that PC Power and Cooling are expensive; he does not bash the quality, just the price.

Fortron is great but if he is looking for an alternative Budget Recomendation


Antec's EPS 550 is a nice way to go.
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Re. PCP&C, not once have I bad mouthed them. If I had $200 and wanted/needed a high
end uber power house, a Zippy/Emacs PSM-0660P would be bought from buildtoorderservers.com
for $199. Or a SuperMicro PWS-0060 would be Froogled at <$120 for 12V@46A on one rail.

The Antec you linked comes up short compared to the Enhance ENP-5150G. The Antec hides
40A on the 5V line no one needs and is far less efficient with lesser build quality, running
dual 80mm noisy fans, plus it costs more. Kripes!! Seem to come up short everywhere.


...Galvanized
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I previously used that same link in another thread and you did approve of it. But I guess you changed your opinion.
 
I will say for Antec that they have good customer service. My 450W developed a capacitor leak, Antec had no problem exchanging it for a new one. But rather than have to deal with a customer service go with the best quality for your dollar.
 
FWIW I have been using a XION-600F14T-201 for the past few months and it has been extremely stable. 2 12v rails at 22a each and all the connectors you would ever need.
 
Originally posted by: acegazda
i'm going with enhance now...thanks!
again, will all specs tell you the amps on each rail?
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Almost all spec sheets will tell you the max current on each rail. Most spec sheets will tell you the total combined power of any given rail.
 
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