New Poll: Republicans to take House, Dems keep senate

Schadenfroh

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Straight from the pro-Zionist, right-wing biased news agency, Reuters:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69451X20101013

Ipsos pollster Cliff Young said the poll numbers show Republicans would win around 227 seats in the House to 208 for the Democrats.

In the Senate, the poll suggests Democrats would retain control by 52 to 48 seats, a smaller advantage than they have now, Young said.

To tell you the truth, I think that the race for The House will be even closer than that. There have been some high profile win for "Tea Party" candidates, but those are only a handful of the cases and even if they do not win the general election, there will be more traditional Republicans gaining seats.

Republicans do not really need to capture a majority in The House as Blue Dog Democrats will likely swing the major issues in favor of the center-right. IIRC, Blue Dogs outnumber RINOs by a significant margin.
 
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I wish they'd take both. At least then they'd have some incentive to actually get some positive stuff done to toot their Republican horn when elections roll around again. As it is they'll be in a better position to sabotage generate more anger for 2012.
 

techs

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Hey, if you can convince 40 percent of your party that Obama is a Muslim and 14 percent that Obama is the Anti-Christ, well, it just shows the public is a bunch of morons who can be convinced to actually vote not only against their best interests, but to actually repeat that mistake time and again.
 

her209

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Hey, if you can convince 40 percent of your party that Obama is a Muslim and 14 percent that Obama is the Anti-Christ, well, it just shows the public is a bunch of morons who can be convinced to actually vote not only against their best interests, but to actually repeat that mistake time and again.
What percentage believes the Tea Party is not just the GOP?
 

werepossum

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Hey, if you can convince 40 percent of your party that Obama is a Muslim and 14 percent that Obama is the Anti-Christ, well, it just shows the public is a bunch of morons who can be convinced to actually vote not only against their best interests, but to actually repeat that mistake time and again.
All your side has to do is convince people that ten percent unemployment is the solution to eight percent unemployment. Hmm, I guess those Republicans are silver-tongued devils! (Whereas Democrats are merely the garden variety devils.)

Cheer up, crack could soon be legal!
 

cubby1223

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Hey, if you can convince 40 percent of your party that Obama is a Muslim and 14 percent that Obama is the Anti-Christ, well, it just shows the public is a bunch of morons who can be convinced to actually vote not only against their best interests, but to actually repeat that mistake time and again.

Do you ever have a morning where you wake up and say "I will try my best not be a partisan hack today"? I'm thinking not.
 

thraashman

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Do you ever have a morning where you wake up and say "I will try my best not be a partisan hack today"? I'm thinking not.

Seriously? Techs may be partisan, but in comparison to the partisan hacks this board has on the right, Techs is an amateur. Really, no one who leans left on this board can possibly compete with Spidey in partisan hackery. And there are several that are only a step or two below his level.
 

Lemon law

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All your side has to do is convince people that ten percent unemployment is the solution to eight percent unemployment. Hmm, I guess those Republicans are silver-tongued devils! (Whereas Democrats are merely the garden variety devils.)

Cheer up, crack could soon be legal!
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The GOP if they get a majority in either the house or senate will be in demonstrating their policies will lead, not to the 10% unemployment we have now but to the 25% unemployment experienced by Hoover when he applied to same policies now advocated by the GOP before before and ever since.

Which is why I look towards 2012, and the end of the GOP as a political party.

The American voter may be slow learners, but they cannot fail to learn if the GOP collapses the American economy twice in two years.
 

cubby1223

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Seriously? Techs may be partisan, but in comparison to the partisan hacks this board has on the right, Techs is an amateur. Really, no one who leans left on this board can possibly compete with Spidey in partisan hackery. And there are several that are only a step or two below his level.

There is a difference. Craig is partisan but he is like seriously onto his ideology partisan. Spidey is partisan but too is seriously into his ideology partisan.

Techs is partisan just for the sake of being annoying.
 

dank69

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The GOP if they get a majority in either the house or senate will be in demonstrating their policies will lead, not to the 10% unemployment we have now but to the 25% unemployment experienced by Hoover when he applied to same policies now advocated by the GOP before before and ever since.

Which is why I look towards 2012, and the end of the GOP as a political party.

The American voter may be slow learners, but they cannot fail to learn if the GOP collapses the American economy twice in two years.

If the GOP takes control of the house or the senate (or both) and runs the economy further into the ground, the right will blame Obama for the mess.
 

Double Trouble

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It's not a bad result if things go the way the latest polls indicate. The repubs would have enough seats in the senate to filibuster any bad legislation, and they would have control of the house to prevent further shenanigans there. At the same time, they would not be able to pass their own dumb legislation because the president would not sign it.

Win for all.
 

Fern

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For quite a while now people have been forcasting that the Repubs will take over the House, seems to me the only question is by how much.

The Senate? The concensus seems to be that the Repubs will gain some seats, but fall short of a majority.

I agree "It's not a bad result". The more dynamic House will likely be agitating for 'reforms', the more reserved Senate refusing to go along. I suspect we'll end up with some legislative changes around the edges, but nothing big.

Typically that's all we need anyway, IMO. I think an adjustment to the Mark-to-Market rule for MBS's/CDO's, treating CDS (collateralized debt swaps) like the insurance product it is (sell only one and only to owner of bond), and either tightening up on lending standards or making mortgage refinance shops follow the rules would have done a great deal towards preventing/limiting our economic problems.

Fern
 

Vette73

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For quite a while now people have been forcasting that the Repubs will take over the House, seems to me the only question is by how much.

The Senate? The concensus seems to be that the Repubs will gain some seats, but fall short of a majority.


Fern


Yep I think most level headed people have said that is what will probable happen. Republicans lost any chance of getting the senate when odonnell and Angle won the R ticket.

Even then races wher the Rs pick up a seat in the house it will not be as big a margin as mnay think. And that seat will be back up in 2 years again. Look at the R that won the seat in LA. He beat jeffords but right now most have him losing re-election. The house is always up for grabs.
 

ericlp

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What percentage believes the Tea Party is not just the GOP?


Well, considering it's the same old song and dance 2 party pony show, what party do you label them? Certainly not a third party.
 

Double Trouble

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As long as it results in absolute, indissoluble gridlock, I'll be happy.

:thumbsup: Same here. We need more gridlock and less one-sided stupidity. Over the last 10 years we've gotten a very nice sampling of how things work when one party has full control or at least significant control.... and it ain't pretty. We're all much better off when the houses are split and split with the white house. Either they are forced to work together on things they can agree on, or nothing gets done. Either way, we win.
 

werepossum

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The GOP if they get a majority in either the house or senate will be in demonstrating their policies will lead, not to the 10% unemployment we have now but to the 25% unemployment experienced by Hoover when he applied to same policies now advocated by the GOP before before and ever since.

Which is why I look towards 2012, and the end of the GOP as a political party.

The American voter may be slow learners, but they cannot fail to learn if the GOP collapses the American economy twice in two years.
End of GOP as a political party is very much preferable to the end of America as a country.

:thumbsup: Same here. We need more gridlock and less one-sided stupidity. Over the last 10 years we've gotten a very nice sampling of how things work when one party has full control or at least significant control.... and it ain't pretty. We're all much better off when the houses are split and split with the white house. Either they are forced to work together on things they can agree on, or nothing gets done. Either way, we win.

Agreed, come on blessed gridlock. No one's life, liberty or property is safe when Congress is in session. There's still a risk though that Obama will attempt to merely circumvent Congress and implement his agenda through regulatory agencies and the courts, so it might be difficult to convince business that it's safe to come out and play. He did say that if the Republicans won Congress it would be two years of hand-to-hand combat - although the way he said it made it sound like two years of occasional snide comments to the press, when he could be bothered.