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New Orleans Not Worth Saving
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I don't know where you're pulling the race thing from - race shouldn't matter, and I believe that it doesn't to the vast majority on this board. As a matter of fact, in this thread, you're the only one mentioning race. You're making yourself look bad by using the racism strawman to try to stir up the pot.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Lets just put it this way...I would trade every one of your fast food rest stop suburbs for a beautiful city like NO anyday...
cKGunslinger
Lifer
Explain.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Why don't you try getting out for once and see...
What is going on is flying so far over your heads you arent even close to the point of what is going on...either that or you are defending the status quo.
cKGunslinger
Lifer
No, you misunderstand. I have no idea to what you are even referring. Explain your post.
What is going on? What is over my head? Your insight? How am I defending something by asking you questions? 😕
I think we can all agree that whatever your ranting about is going right over our heads.
Maybe you need to explain your thoughts a little more and tell us how us living in whitebread country with our fastfood restaurants watching the evening lineup caring more will change the neighborhood situation in NO.
SagaLore
Elite Member
That is what I would like to see happen. The entire city will be rebuilt in the water. There would be two types of transportation - by a modified boat for inner-city transport, and by high rail.
You can imagine the tourism dollars that would generate!
"Carnival Cruise lines - sailing right from your Hotel!"
CaptnKirk
Lifer
suburban white twats
is that anything like a Volvo ?
anyway -
When New Orleans was first settled some 300 years ago it wasn't below sea level.
Changes made to the Mississippi River to stop the anual floods that come with the spring thaws in the North were made to
protect from the flooding, that's where the levee system came to be.
As Oil became a important commpdity the pumping of petroleum products and especially natural gas,
changed the hydrostatisis of the area, lack of below ground pressue - since there were now empty pockets deep underground,
allowed the surface crust to slump, gravity still works you know, and the land sank some more.
Now to compound problems the levee system which held back the spring floods also ended the depositing of silt in the river basin,
which historically had replenished the land mass and kept the ground level at or slightly above sea level.
This in turn wiped out the costal tidal plains, the Bayous that kept the sea away from the city area during storms.
In summary - to rebuild New Orleans would be to undo the poor engineering decisions that went into it -
in an attempt to rob Peter to pay Paul.
is that anything like a Volvo ?
anyway -
When New Orleans was first settled some 300 years ago it wasn't below sea level.
Changes made to the Mississippi River to stop the anual floods that come with the spring thaws in the North were made to
protect from the flooding, that's where the levee system came to be.
As Oil became a important commpdity the pumping of petroleum products and especially natural gas,
changed the hydrostatisis of the area, lack of below ground pressue - since there were now empty pockets deep underground,
allowed the surface crust to slump, gravity still works you know, and the land sank some more.
Now to compound problems the levee system which held back the spring floods also ended the depositing of silt in the river basin,
which historically had replenished the land mass and kept the ground level at or slightly above sea level.
This in turn wiped out the costal tidal plains, the Bayous that kept the sea away from the city area during storms.
In summary - to rebuild New Orleans would be to undo the poor engineering decisions that went into it -
in an attempt to rob Peter to pay Paul.
I also understand it sits on a bed of silt and mud. I can see why that metropolitan area would eventually settle the land below it and make it sink.
As an example, Fargo is on a bed of clay and when they were evaluating where to put a new hockey arena 6 years ago one of the problems was the underlying ground could not support the weight. In the spring it could have been very possible with the annual floods the areana simply slid down into the river.
The site was supposed to be near the Fargo Dome but I am not sure whatever came of it.
TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
Exactly.
Not wanting to rebuild NOLA has nothing whatsoever to do with any color of people. It's simply a bad fiscal decision to make if the problem with subsidence is not addressed. It's throwing good money after bad.
CaptnKirk
Lifer
Exactly.
Not wanting to rebuild NOLA has nothing whatsoever to do with any color of people. It's simply a bad fiscal decision to make if the problem with subsidence is not addressed. It's throwing good money after bad.[/quote]
In many oil fields there is a method of pressure injection - deep in the well matrix, using sea water to lift the residual oils and make it obtainable.
It's pretty damn hot deep down, and the oil tends to rise up globule by globule and accumulate in higher strata making it accessable.
If this method were used (maybe it has been tried) it would offset to some extent the tendency for sinking, by keeping the upper layers afloat.
The rock dosent care if it's oil residues or water, just keep the cavity filled with something.
This is a simular situation to the Sinkholes of Florida, you pump out the ground water, the ground heads south.
I know you know this one
Want to buy a Porsche ?
dmcowen674
No Lifer
BFT :thumbsup:
I was just Watching CNBC and they had a poll and over 90% of Americans polled do not want to give New Orleans money to rebuild the parts that are below sea level!
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNB....asp?ShowResults=1&HasVotedTwice=#Vote
L I V E V O T E
RESULTS
Total Votes: 5668
Use federal money to rebuild the parts of New Orleans that are below sea level?
Yes
8%
No
92%
Votes tallied every 60 seconds.
I guess I am 90% Correct!
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNB....asp?ShowResults=1&HasVotedTwice=#Vote
L I V E V O T E
RESULTS
Total Votes: 5668
Use federal money to rebuild the parts of New Orleans that are below sea level?
Yes
8%
No
92%
Votes tallied every 60 seconds.
I guess I am 90% Correct!
loup garou
Lifer
Too bad.
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