New - Nvidia 560 Ti 448 Cores, ETA 11/29

MarkLuvsCS

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I was updating to a new afterburner and noticed this on their forum:

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Hi guys, we released the latest MSI afterburner beta 9 today to support the upcoming graphics card which will be announced on 11/29. Due to NDA issue, we can't list which model can be supported. Let you guys to decode it.
Added core voltage control for reference design NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti *** cores series graphics cards

In their revision history of Afterburner it reads:
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•	Added core voltage control for reference design NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 cores series graphics cards

Seems peculiar depending on the pricing. If it will come out around the current 560 ti pricing, the newer 560 ti should be much more competitive against the 6950. The newer 560 ti 448 core would probably win nearly all benchmarks vs. 6950. This should make things interesting in the midrange until the 28nm cards are released.

Hopefully someone else finds this interesting :).
 
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Grooveriding

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There were some other threads on it here. It leaked a few weeks ago.

I'd assume it's not a GF114 but a GF110 that didn't make it as a GTX 570 or 580, since it runs with a 320 bus and the same memory as a 570 - as well as supporting tri-sli.
 

toyota

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yeah of course it will be 110 based and we have known that ever since the rumor started. we already have two gtx560 OEM cards that are 110 based right now.

strangely the current 110 based OEM gtx560 ti has 352sp while the retail will have 448sp. http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-560-ti-oem/specifications

the current 110 based non ti OEM gtx560 actually has 384sp but lower clocks. http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-560-oem/specifications

good grief how confusing...
 
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What about OC gtx560ti 950core, isn't that ~= gtx570 already?

gf114 is a prolific overclocker, but a crippled gtx570?

Doesn't seem to be a good buy unless its priced very close to regular gtx560ti, since you get a bit of extra performance but for a big power use increase, prolly more than an OC regular 560ti.
 

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What about OC gtx560ti 950core, isn't that ~= gtx570 already?

gf114 is a prolific overclocker, but a crippled gtx570?

Doesn't seem to be a good buy unless its priced very close to regular gtx560ti, since you get a bit of extra performance but for a big power use increase, prolly more than an OC regular 560ti.

I wonder if they felt the need to fill that spot was serious enough to gimp good GF110 chips to fill it? Or, do they have a number of chips that don't make even the GTX 570 cut and they are doing it to burn them off?

I have a feeling it's the prior, rather than the latter. They probably feel the GTX 560ti (384) doesn't really compete with the dual bios pre unlocked HD 6950. It's still only 1.25 GB VRAM, though. The unlocked HD 6950 wshould still be a better card.
 

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Card is gonna be in my new build if this is at frys next week assuming price is within $15 of a regular gtx560 ti .

Either that or gtx570 whichever they have with the new 560 as my first choice .

Match it up with a 2500k and 8gb ram should be nice but wonder about BF3 performance as thats my main concern .
 

AtenRa

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Card is gonna be in my new build if this is at frys next week assuming price is within $15 of a regular gtx560 ti .

Either that or gtx570 whichever they have with the new 560 as my first choice .

Match it up with a 2500k and 8gb ram should be nice but wonder about BF3 performance as thats my main concern .

If you play at 1080p and aiming at high or ultra settings I would go with GTX570 or GTX580.
 

Grooveriding

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Card is gonna be in my new build if this is at frys next week assuming price is within $15 of a regular gtx560 ti .

Either that or gtx570 whichever they have with the new 560 as my first choice .

Match it up with a 2500k and 8gb ram should be nice but wonder about BF3 performance as thats my main concern .

If you want ultra and are playing multiplayer, you need to get two cards. For high settings one card is fine.
 

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Card is gonna be in my new build if this is at frys next week assuming price is within $15 of a regular gtx560 ti .

Either that or gtx570 whichever they have with the new 560 as my first choice .

Match it up with a 2500k and 8gb ram should be nice but wonder about BF3 performance as thats my main concern .



If you are playing on three 2560x1600 screens and want to use ultra settings on full 64 player servers you should get four videocards.
 

toyota

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cant wait, wow, just wow! gonna be a overclockin monster
what makes you think that though? if anything I would think this would be the poorest of the poor as for as 110 cores go. and even my gtx570 is not worth a poop for overclocking.
 
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happy medium

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what makes you think that though? if anything I would think this would be the poorest of the poor as for as 110 cores go. and even my gtx570 is not worth a poop for overclocking.

Sarcasm.....:thumbsup: and you have bad luck with cards, every card you buy is hot, loud , overclocks like crap and is slower than your gtx260. :) :)
 
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toyota

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Sarcasm.....:thumbsup: and you have bad luck with cards, every card you buy is hot, loud , overclocks like crap and is slower than your gtx260. :) :)
sarcasm on whose part? and whats with the ignorant attitude in the rest of your comment? I had one card that was loud and hot and that was the gtx470. the gtx570 I have now is the only card I have owned that did not oc very well.
 

happy medium

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and whats with the ignorant attitude in the rest of your comment?

Jeez take it light man ,I was just kidding. (cant wait,wow just wow, sarcasm??)

I think the gtx560ti 448 will be all custom cards with no reference design and manufacturers will go crazy with them, like the gtx460.
 

formulav8

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Gotta love NVidia's typical trying to confuse the customer on purpose marketing. How many stupid 560's are there now....
 

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Gotta love NVidia's typical trying to confuse the customer on purpose marketing. How many stupid 560's are there now....
yes that's why they did it...just to confuse people. this card will be priced a little higher and perform a little better so whats the problem? the person that cant figure out this card, probably cant figure out anything else when it comes to computers.
 

happy medium

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How many stupid 560's are there now....

Not enough of these fantastic , well rounded , super overclocking, money making, profit enduring, cool running, afordable, ect ect ect cards.

Really how do you guys even know what the cards really gonna be called?

ANd who cares about the name, its about performance.
I dont care if its callled a 4200ti, mbr 1000, as long as it performs well.
I read reviews before I buy something for $100+++, like any other shopper should.
 
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skipsneeky2

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If you play at 1080p and aiming at high or ultra settings I would go with GTX570 or GTX580.

1600x1200 ultra now with 1080p high down the road.

Not many reviews showing such a resolution so best to compare to 1680x1050 and few with ultra numbers at that resolution.

On the fence still about which gpu cause i am thinking of replacing my 3 1/2 year old seagate 1.5tb drive with a 15.4 ms seek time i believe causing me random crash's with the game BF3.

As much as a small process during hdtune benching and that seek time jumps to 16.9 ms.
 
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toyota

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1600x1200 ultra now with 1080p high down the road.

Not many reviews showing such a resolution so best to compare to 1680x1050 and few with ultra numbers at that resolution.

On the fence still about which gpu cause i am thinking of replacing my 3 1/2 year old seagate 1.5tb drive with a 15.4 ms seek time i believe causing me random crash's with the game.

As much as a small process during hdtune benching and that seek time jumps to 16.9 ms.
1600x1200 is slightly closer to 1920x1080 than 1680x1050 but its basically right in between.
 

skipsneeky2

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because that would make too much sense

I am predicting a gtx575 in the future as well.

Card that replaces the gtx580 but maybe with 2.5gb of ram and cost around gtx570 msrp cause the gtx580 is now a hard sell.

No one makes a confusing line up like nvidia why not call it a freaking gtx570 ti?

The gtx560 non ti has less cores then the gtx560ti i would think the gtx570 ti would be the most sensible name for a late player in the game no?

Gtx570 ti might not make sense but neither would 2 gtx560 ti cards in the 500 series..i wanna smack someone now .

We could rename the gtx560 the gtx560se the gtx560ti just gtx560 and the gtx560ti 448 the new gtx560 ti...then things could get stupid very quickly.
 
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