New NSX coming out.

[m2kewl]

OMFG! That car is HAWT!!!

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Ciber
Now, this is a real sports car, for the same money.

Yum... I'll take the GT 2 though.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Ciber
Now, this is a real sports car, for the same money.

Yum... I'll take the GT 2 though.

*ahem* The GT2 is 190k...just a bit more than the GT3.

 

[Supahfreak]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Shiva112

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Awesome looking car.

Needs an 8 Cylinder though...

Why ? All they would need to do is either throw on a Turbo or a Super Charger.

for 90K I'd want more than a six...but thats just me.

The 911 turbo does quite well with a 6 cylinder

At $90k I'd want more horsepower than a fvcking WRX STI/EVO/GTO/Mach1, etc.. The NSX is grossly and fouled underpowered.

It does look pretty sweet, but a real sports car would bitchify it on the highway.

Quickest way to feel bad about yourself is to buy this thing, then have somebody in a cheaper Viper pull up to you at the lights and teach you a lesson in real power

Assuming the Viper doesnt breakdown mid-race

FreAk

 

[boyRacer]

I think this country is obsessed with top speed and all out HP. Lots of people only like to go straight.

EDIT: The only NSX id buy if i had the money is the NSX-R... :heart:

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Shiva112

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Awesome looking car.

Needs an 8 Cylinder though...

Why ? All they would need to do is either throw on a Turbo or a Super Charger.

for 90K I'd want more than a six...but thats just me.

wouldn't the V8 throw the car completely off balance ?
It's a mid engine sports car.

Wouldn't you expect a V8 in a porsche ? Especially going for 100k+ ?

Ferrari 360 Modena = 8 Cylinders
Most Ferrari's and Lamborginis = 12 Cylinders...

They are all Mid Engine I believe, and according to that logic, I'm sure they are all off balance

Porsche 911 Turbo only has 6 cylinder and I bet you that it is fast enough.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
if you are unsatisfied with the power. look at the lotus elise. i guess it must really suck. a lot.

The US Elise should have right about 10hp/lb. The NSX will probably have very similar power.

Originally posted by: Howard
I think most Lambos are mid-engined, but the Modena has the engine in the front IIRC.

The Modena is mid engined. That's the only way to get anywhere near perfect 42% / 58% weight distribution.

Right. I was thinking of the 550 Maranello.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
if you are unsatisfied with the power. look at the lotus elise. i guess it must really suck. a lot.

Its HP/$ ratio is better, and its much lighter than the NSX. Also, lets not forget, it costs less than a Corvette, especially a Z06, meaning that a lot of the comparisions drawn here dont apply. Now, if the NSX was 40K instead of 90K, it'b be a whole different ballgame. But the NSX is $90,000.00. And that's just recockulous.

 

[Ryan]

Also, in the August 1998 issue of Car and Driver ran a stock '97 NSX through the quarter mile @ 12.8s (0-60mph in 4.5 seconds). The current NSX is remained virtually unchanged since, except for some cosmetic changes. Again, not bad for only a 290hp 6-cyl. car

- I wanted to post this around 3pm today, but there was a forum outage and I had to go to work

 

[Lawrencetan21]

WTF! The new model on been for like what? 2 years? and they gona replace it. I feel sorry for those who owned the recent model ones. You know that one with a rounder body.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Lawrencetan21
WTF! The new model on been for like what? 2 years? and they gona replace it. I feel sorry for those who owned the recent model ones. You know that one with a rounder body.

The current ones isnt exactly a redesign... it just had a facelift.

 

[Lawrencetan21]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Lawrencetan21
WTF! The new model on been for like what? 2 years? and they gona replace it. I feel sorry for those who owned the recent model ones. You know that one with a rounder body.

The current ones isnt exactly a redesign... it just had a facelift.

Well I'm pretty sure that the people that bought the recent one thinking that their design will last for at least another 8 years like the old one. But they have no Idea.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I wonder why Honda bothers building the NSX. It is not selling well and they do not seem to be willing to do what is necessary, put a 350+hp V8 in it, to compete.

They bother building the NSX for the same reason Dodge builds the Viper: To increase the sales of the rest of their product line.

Actually, the Viper wasn't really to increase sales... it was more to show that Dodge still could make a car with serious ballz. And the Viper > ZO6 > NSX. Nissan's former supercar, the Skyline GTR kicked the crap out of the NSX too. Toyota's supercar as well as Mazda's sports car (Supra and RX7) owned the NSX in street trim. The NSX does well in JGTC but not after extensive leveling on the playfield against the GTR but even then, the race NSX is nowhere close to a street NSX.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Lawrencetan21

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Lawrencetan21
WTF! The new model on been for like what? 2 years? and they gona replace it. I feel sorry for those who owned the recent model ones. You know that one with a rounder body.

The current ones isnt exactly a redesign... it just had a facelift.

Well I'm pretty sure that the people that bought the recent one thinking that their design will last for at least another 8 years like the old one. But they have no Idea.

lol... yeah pretty much. majority of NSX owners bought their car used though... around 93-96 and onwards. so if you did plunk down $90k for something that just got a new face... hahahahaha...

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: Regs
A turbo charged vtech v-6 wrapped around a fiber glass haul, no? Who needs a v8.

you broke my sarcasm meter and my spell checker...

Sure... you don't need more than 300hp if your car weighs only 2000lbs but I highly doubt the new NSX is only going to be 2000lbs. Also, this "no replacement for displacement" BS is meaningless. # of cylinders is meaningless. it's all about the actual friggin car as a package.

So what if you have a 500ci friggin Viper... SRT4s are already scaring the $hit out of them in their puny 2.4L 4cylinders. And you can't exactly rally a Viper. The NSX is supposed to be a supercar... sure, it can take the "light and powerful" approach of the Elise... but then again, the Elise isn't a supercar. The McLaren F1, Pagani Zonda S... THOSE are "light and powerful" combo SUPERCARS.

I'm sure that if Honda set it's mind to it, they could make an engine similar to BMW's wonderfully tuned I6 found in the E46 M3. They could wring 240hp out of 2.0L NA, they can surely do similar on a larger scale if they set their minds to it. But since all the big boys playing in the supercar alley are 400hp+, they better get with the program. Sure, supercar slayers like the Evo and STi can run much "less" hp but they aren't supercars and nowhere near the price of one.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: KokomoGST

Originally posted by: Regs
A turbo charged vtech v-6 wrapped around a fiber glass haul, no? Who needs a v8.

you broke my sarcasm meter and my spell checker...

Sure... you don't need more than 300hp if your car weighs only 2000lbs but I highly doubt the new NSX is only going to be 2000lbs. Also, this "no replacement for displacement" BS is meaningless. # of cylinders is meaningless. it's all about the actual friggin car as a package.

So what if you have a 500ci friggin Viper... SRT4s are already scaring the $hit out of them in their puny 2.4L 4cylinders. And you can't exactly rally a Viper. The NSX is supposed to be a supercar... sure, it can take the "light and powerful" approach of the Elise... but then again, the Elise isn't a supercar. The McLaren F1, Pagani Zonda S... THOSE are "light and powerful" combo SUPERCARS.

I'm sure that if Honda set it's mind to it, they could make an engine similar to BMW's wonderfully tuned I6 found in the E46 M3. They could wring 240hp out of 2.0L NA, they can surely do similar on a larger scale if they set their minds to it. But since all the big boys playing in the supercar alley are 400hp+, they better get with the program. Sure, supercar slayers like the Evo and STi can run much "less" hp but they aren't supercars and nowhere near the price of one.

I'm sure Honda can build an engine... hey they built 6 for the all conquering McLaren F1 team...

Anyway... i do agree that Honda's philosophy isn't exactly popular here in the US where everyone is sooooo concerned about top speed... HP... 1/4 times. Europe just adores the NSX though... probably because they appreciate driving dynamics more. The Viper and Corvette isnt as successful over there either... theyd much rather have a TVR.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: KokomoGST

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I wonder why Honda bothers building the NSX. It is not selling well and they do not seem to be willing to do what is necessary, put a 350+hp V8 in it, to compete.

They bother building the NSX for the same reason Dodge builds the Viper: To increase the sales of the rest of their product line.

Actually, the Viper wasn't really to increase sales... it was more to show that Dodge still could make a car with serious ballz. And the Viper > ZO6 > NSX. Nissan's former supercar, the Skyline GTR kicked the crap out of the NSX too. Toyota's supercar as well as Mazda's sports car (Supra and RX7) owned the NSX in street trim. The NSX does well in JGTC but not after extensive leveling on the playfield against the GTR but even then, the race NSX is nowhere close to a street NSX.

You seriously believe this? Dodge built a vehicle not to increase sales? The Viper definitely was there to beat out the bowtie crew, but the main purpose was to fight the image war.

When the Viper came out, most dealers did not let people who bought the car take it home immediately. Dodge wanted them to keep it in the showrooms for a couple weeks. In greatly increased foot traffic.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: Apex

You seriously believe this? Dodge built a vehicle not to increase sales? The Viper definitely was there to beat out the bowtie crew, but the main purpose was to fight the image war.

When the Viper came out, most dealers did not let people who bought the car take it home immediately. Dodge wanted them to keep it in the showrooms for a couple weeks. In greatly increased foot traffic.

Bah, read the whole story behind the Viper... sure, it was used as an image tool after it was made, but that's more of an afterthought than a pre-planned phenomenon. Lutz and the Viper development team fought for a LONG time against the brass to make them see that Dodge NEEDED that car. Nobody thought it was get the kind of attention that it got.

And since when does seeing a shiny new Vette make you suddenly want to buy a friggin Impala? Only now with DC in charge do they really start to understand that DODGE can be marketed as a performance marque. Mopar/SRT is something that they can exploit.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Ciber
Now, this is a real sports car, for the same money.

Yum... I'll take the GT 2 though.

*ahem* The GT2 is 190k...just a bit more than the GT3.

... Well, I only want ONE.

 

[OS]

My coworker used to drive a C5 and what he has to say about it is that it's "the worst POS car I've ever owned. Problems up the ass. I threw it away after 6 months." His commentary so damning about that car it was hilarious. I'm gonna ask him more about it tomorrow.

I don't give sh*t what you ATers have to say about the NSX, I love that car. It's still in the back of my mind to buy an early to mid 90s, they go for around 25K. I don't care if a corvette is faster in a straight line, I don't even get to use all the power on my 2003 accord while driving to and from work.

Some of you vette whores are the same people who'd call SRT neons crap when it's faster than a viper. I've been to the chevy dealer a couple of times to poke around at C5 vettes and the interior has worse quality than a civic.

Though I agree, I wouldn't buy a new NSX these days. Not worth it. Buy a mercedes CL600 or a porsche instead or something.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: KokomoGST

Originally posted by: Apex

You seriously believe this? Dodge built a vehicle not to increase sales? The Viper definitely was there to beat out the bowtie crew, but the main purpose was to fight the image war.

When the Viper came out, most dealers did not let people who bought the car take it home immediately. Dodge wanted them to keep it in the showrooms for a couple weeks. In greatly increased foot traffic.

Bah, read the whole story behind the Viper... sure, it was used as an image tool after it was made, but that's more of an afterthought than a pre-planned phenomenon. Lutz and the Viper development team fought for a LONG time against the brass to make them see that Dodge NEEDED that car. Nobody thought it was get the kind of attention that it got.

And since when does seeing a shiny new Vette make you suddenly want to buy a friggin Impala? Only now with DC in charge do they really start to understand that DODGE can be marketed as a performance marque. Mopar/SRT is something that they can exploit.

Fair enough. You have much more faith in marketing material than I do, and you could very well be right. I have read the "story behind" the Viper. It just depends on how much of it you believe.

Higher end vehicles always bring up the brand image. Plenty of people walking into a dealer to look at the Vette probably ended up walking out with a car. It happened a lot with the Toyota Supra Turbo too.

Anyhow, I apologize for hijacking the thread. Back to the NSX.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: OS
Some of you vette whores are the same people who'd call SRT neons crap when it's faster than a viper.

It IS still crap. And I'm not a vette whore.... You have to realize that an inline 4 will never compete with a v10 on American drag strips, and more importantly, in American MINDS.

 

[0roo0roo]

i wonder who actually bought the nsx anyways, atleast after the car started to be pathetically "old". super rich people that just had to finish their collections? who knows.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: KokomoGST

Originally posted by: Regs
A turbo charged vtech v-6 wrapped around a fiber glass haul, no? Who needs a v8.

you broke my sarcasm meter and my spell checker...

Sure... you don't need more than 300hp if your car weighs only 2000lbs but I highly doubt the new NSX is only going to be 2000lbs. Also, this "no replacement for displacement" BS is meaningless. # of cylinders is meaningless. it's all about the actual friggin car as a package.

So what if you have a 500ci friggin Viper... SRT4s are already scaring the $hit out of them in their puny 2.4L 4cylinders. And you can't exactly rally a Viper. The NSX is supposed to be a supercar... sure, it can take the "light and powerful" approach of the Elise... but then again, the Elise isn't a supercar. The McLaren F1, Pagani Zonda S... THOSE are "light and powerful" combo SUPERCARS.

I'm sure that if Honda set it's mind to it, they could make an engine similar to BMW's wonderfully tuned I6 found in the E46 M3. They could wring 240hp out of 2.0L NA, they can surely do similar on a larger scale if they set their minds to it. But since all the big boys playing in the supercar alley are 400hp+, they better get with the program. Sure, supercar slayers like the Evo and STi can run much "less" hp but they aren't supercars and nowhere near the price of one.

I'm sure Honda can build an engine... hey they built 6 for the all conquering McLaren F1 team...

Anyway... i do agree that Honda's philosophy isn't exactly popular here in the US where everyone is sooooo concerned about top speed... HP... 1/4 times. Europe just adores the NSX though... probably because they appreciate driving dynamics more. The Viper and Corvette isnt as successful over there either... theyd much rather have a TVR.

"The NSX, which has a small but passionate following among performance enthusiasts, has not been fully remodeled since it debuted in 1990. Reflecting its age, worldwide sales last year totaled only 364, with the U.S. market accounting for 233.

The car's worldwide sales peaked at more than 4,500 in 1991"

 

[SilentZero]

If the new NSX is going to look anything like the prototype acura displayed, put me down for one! Looks pretty nice from that view, but ill wait to pass judgement when the final production version is decided upon and I see the specs.