New N. Korean Missiles Said to Threaten U.S.

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Todd33
Threat, does not mean bomb or invade. It means diplomacy and attention. Albright was making real progress with N. Korea but when the Bush crowd got in they just dumped all talks and pissed them off. Everything they do is for attention, they are a nation of starving people trying to get onto the super-power playground. We have no troops left anyhow, we have been pulling people out of Korea to go to Iraq.

diplomacy pwns. worked great with hitler :thumbsup:

Well, as far as i know it did, or they wanted it to, because the US NEVER DECLARED WAR ON NAZI GERMANY, they waited until they were attacked by Japen, did they declare ware then? No, they waited until Germany and Italy declared war on them.

So, you were saying? Christ, you are out of grade school and don't know about this, pathetic.

How do you know that he was referring to the US? Certainly doesn't look like it at all.

If he was referring to another nation i will apologize, it i will take an explanation though.

i WAS referring to the other European nations appeasing hitler. IE: the Sudatenland

Sudatenland????

Ok, WTF is THAT?

And which countries APPEASED hitler except for possibly Sweden (but still had a growing internal force of resistance).

I believe they either joined or were conquered.

And you are changing your mind faster than you can spin, stop or you will go dizzy.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Zebo

This is nation run by a brutal dictator who lies, cheats, and kills to keep himself in power.

That's the main reason Bush needs to go. I don't really care about policy in as much as the man whos a rotten apple a bad seed..someone his father does'nt even really support.

I found that kinda funny because it is true, father Bush doesn't support his sons nor his old advisors actions, maybe he grew older and wiser?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Todd33
Threat, does not mean bomb or invade. It means diplomacy and attention. Albright was making real progress with N. Korea but when the Bush crowd got in they just dumped all talks and pissed them off. Everything they do is for attention, they are a nation of starving people trying to get onto the super-power playground. We have no troops left anyhow, we have been pulling people out of Korea to go to Iraq.

diplomacy pwns. worked great with hitler :thumbsup:

Well, as far as i know it did, or they wanted it to, because the US NEVER DECLARED WAR ON NAZI GERMANY, they waited until they were attacked by Japen, did they declare ware then? No, they waited until Germany and Italy declared war on them.

So, you were saying? Christ, you are out of grade school and don't know about this, pathetic.

How do you know that he was referring to the US? Certainly doesn't look like it at all.

If he was referring to another nation i will apologize, it i will take an explanation though.

i WAS referring to the other European nations appeasing hitler. IE: the Sudatenland

Sudatenland????

Ok, WTF is THAT?

And which countries APPEASED hitler except for possibly Sweden (but still had a growing internal force of resistance).

I believe they either joined or were conquered.

And you are changing your mind faster than you can spin, stop or you will go dizzy.

Are you serious? Are you saying that the only country that tried to appease Hitler was Sweden?

Appeasement is one of the single biggest topics when discussing WW2.

Get back to us when you actually graduate from grade school.

 

[onelove]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Todd33
Can you do anything but boil complicated problems down to 'blow up' or 'not blow up'? You are a true Neocon.

Nice :beer:

We and you ought not to pull on the ends of a rope. Would you have tied the knots of war? Because the more the two of us pull, the tighter the knot will be tied, and then it will be necessary cut that knot. And what that would mean is not for me to explain to you. I have participated in two wars and know that war ends when it rolled through cities and villages, everywhere sowing death and destruction. For such is the logic of war. If people do not display wisdom, they will clash like blind moles, and then mutual annihilation will commence.
-Robert McNamara quoting Nikita Khrushchev

Sorry to diverge, but can you imagine if Buush 43 was in office during the cuban missile crisis?

This sea-based system is essentially the same thing as ICBMs in Cuba, except it won't be 90 miles off the coast in one place, it could be 30 miles off the coast anywhere & we woudn't have a clue whose submarine/tanker/tramp steamer fired the missile. We will have a short-list & I guess that's why it's important to have enough nukes under MAD, so you can "kill em all & let god sort em out."

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Todd33
Threat, does not mean bomb or invade. It means diplomacy and attention. Albright was making real progress with N. Korea but when the Bush crowd got in they just dumped all talks and pissed them off. Everything they do is for attention, they are a nation of starving people trying to get onto the super-power playground. We have no troops left anyhow, we have been pulling people out of Korea to go to Iraq.

diplomacy pwns. worked great with hitler :thumbsup:

Well, as far as i know it did, or they wanted it to, because the US NEVER DECLARED WAR ON NAZI GERMANY, they waited until they were attacked by Japen, did they declare ware then? No, they waited until Germany and Italy declared war on them.

So, you were saying? Christ, you are out of grade school and don't know about this, pathetic.

How do you know that he was referring to the US? Certainly doesn't look like it at all.

If he was referring to another nation i will apologize, it i will take an explanation though.

i WAS referring to the other European nations appeasing hitler. IE: the Sudatenland

Sudatenland????

Ok, WTF is THAT?

you think you know more about WW2 than me, but you dont know what the Sudatenland is? lol. google is your friend.

 

[onelove]

can you kids take it outside or something?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Todd33
Can you do anything but boil complicated problems down to 'blow up' or 'not blow up'? You are a true Neocon.

Nice :beer:

We and you ought not to pull on the ends of a rope. Would you have tied the knots of war? Because the more the two of us pull, the tighter the knot will be tied, and then it will be necessary cut that knot. And what that would mean is not for me to explain to you. I have participated in two wars and know that war ends when it rolled through cities and villages, everywhere sowing death and destruction. For such is the logic of war. If people do not display wisdom, they will clash like blind moles, and then mutual annihilation will commence.
-Robert McNamara quoting Nikita Khrushchev

Sorry to diverge, but can you imagine if Buush 43 was in office during the cuban missile crisis?

This sea-based system is essentially the same thing as ICBMs in Cuba, except it won't be 90 miles off the coast in one place, it could be 30 miles off the coast anywhere & we woudn't have a clue whose submarine/tanker/tramp steamer fired the missile. We will have a short-list & I guess that's why it's important to have enough nukes under MAD, so you can "kill em all & let god sort em out."

I'm sure if he had Kevin Costner as his assistant that everything would have turned out okay for him as well.

Wait, you mean that Thirteen Days thing was based on true events?!

 

[wirelessenabled]

Originally posted by: BDawg
This can only mean one thing...


Invade Syria!

Oh:Q

I thought in Bush-Logic (oxymoron) it would mean

Invade Chile:shocked:

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Todd33
Threat, does not mean bomb or invade. It means diplomacy and attention. Albright was making real progress with N. Korea but when the Bush crowd got in they just dumped all talks and pissed them off. Everything they do is for attention, they are a nation of starving people trying to get onto the super-power playground. We have no troops left anyhow, we have been pulling people out of Korea to go to Iraq.

diplomacy pwns. worked great with hitler :thumbsup:

Well, as far as i know it did, or they wanted it to, because the US NEVER DECLARED WAR ON NAZI GERMANY, they waited until they were attacked by Japen, did they declare ware then? No, they waited until Germany and Italy declared war on them.

So, you were saying? Christ, you are out of grade school and don't know about this, pathetic.

How do you know that he was referring to the US? Certainly doesn't look like it at all.

If he was referring to another nation i will apologize, it i will take an explanation though.

i WAS referring to the other European nations appeasing hitler. IE: the Sudatenland

Sudatenland????

Ok, WTF is THAT?

And which countries APPEASED hitler except for possibly Sweden (but still had a growing internal force of resistance).

I believe they either joined or were conquered.

And you are changing your mind faster than you can spin, stop or you will go dizzy.

Are you serious? Are you saying that the only country that tried to appease Hitler was Sweden?

Appeasement is one of the single biggest topics when discussing WW2.

Get back to us when you actually graduate from grade school.

True, the US and Canada tried to appease Nazi germany too, but as it didn't go very well i don't think it is worth to mention.

What you don't get, is that while the US and Canada sat on their hands Europe was on fire, people like my grandparents escaped because of a Swede, still you pride yourself for attacking AFTER being declared war upon?

You REALLY need to get over yourselves.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
True, the US and Canada tried to appease Nazi germany too, but as it didn't go very well i don't think it is worth to mention.

What you don't get, is that while the US and Canada sat on their hands Europe was on fire, people like my grandparents escaped because of a Swede, still you pride yourself for attacking AFTER being declared war upon?

You REALLY need to get over yourselves.

HAHAHAHAHA! You're great!

Klixxer: There was o from Sweden, what other countries tried it? ! YOU ARE STOOPID BECUZ U SAID DAT! HOO HAH! BTW HEAR IS ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT YOU BEING STUPID!
RabidMongoose: There was appeasement as it is one of the most important subjects when studying that time in history.
Klixxer: Here is the story of my family.

At least you admitted that you were wrong. This might be the first time...at least you aren't trying to redefine the word appeasement. Oh klixxy boy, you are a riot.

Thanks for showing your complete and utter ignorance of the history of WW2. I guess we can't fault you since you are a high school dropout.

I can't believe that Europeans are proud of the fact that they destroyed themselves. You REALLY need to get over yourselves.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Can you do anything but boil complicated problems down to 'blow up' or 'not blow up'? You are a true Neocon.

LMAO,
owned

 

[onelove]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Todd33
Can you do anything but boil complicated problems down to 'blow up' or 'not blow up'? You are a true Neocon.

Nice :beer:

We and you ought not to pull on the ends of a rope. Would you have tied the knots of war? Because the more the two of us pull, the tighter the knot will be tied, and then it will be necessary cut that knot. And what that would mean is not for me to explain to you. I have participated in two wars and know that war ends when it rolled through cities and villages, everywhere sowing death and destruction. For such is the logic of war. If people do not display wisdom, they will clash like blind moles, and then mutual annihilation will commence.
-Robert McNamara quoting Nikita Khrushchev

Sorry to diverge, but can you imagine if Buush 43 was in office during the cuban missile crisis?

This sea-based system is essentially the same thing as ICBMs in Cuba, except it won't be 90 miles off the coast in one place, it could be 30 miles off the coast anywhere & we woudn't have a clue whose submarine/tanker/tramp steamer fired the missile. We will have a short-list & I guess that's why it's important to have enough nukes under MAD, so you can "kill em all & let god sort em out."

I'm sure if he had Kevin Costner as his assistant that everything would have turned out okay for him as well.

Wait, you mean that Thirteen Days thing was based on true events?!

just rented the McNamara documentary again. Cool [biased] walkthrough of the crisis by somebody who was there (ahem, sorry Kevin). (EDIT: Sure, as recounted by somebody who is half vulcan, half computer, but whaddya want?)

 

[Jhhnn]

So, uhh, who have he North Koreans attacked in the last 50 years or so? Nobody, iirc... A few sporadic border incidents, which are to be expected, under the circumstances... other than that, nothing...

Which makes comparisons to the Nazis a little bit of a reach, to be more than charitable...

It IS a paranoid xenophobic regime, no doubt, but the Bush Admin hasn't exactly done anything to calm their fears, other than placing them at the top of the axis of evil, cutting off their oil supply, and a few other things that wouldn't inspire much confidence on the part of the DPRK... The Clintonites weren't much better, essentially dragging their feet on the reactor deal, leaving the ultimate denouement to the Bush Admin, who were more than happy to do it...

If our objective in Korea is to support the ROK, then that's what we ought to do, not force a policy on them that will likely lead to the destruction of their capital, and the loss of a few hundred thousand lives in the first few days of combat...

As for DPRK nukes, seaborne missiles, and etc., it doesn't take much in the way of brainpower to see that such measures, if real, are intended as a deterrent against US aggression, rather than as an offensive threat. Put yourself in their shoes, stand at the head of the line for the next Bush invasion adventure, tell me what you'd do...

The notion that they'd attack first is absurd- the ROK wouldn't be a penninsula after about an hour, more like an island... Kim may be a lot of things, bu he's not that kind of stupid, or crazy...