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[Jhhnn]

So, uhh, CsG, since you apparently have nothing to say, or claim you don't, why waste the effort, other than as an underhanded means of harassment?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Win this war, Raildogg? Of course we can win, provided we're willing to engage in mass murder on a scale that would make Saddam Hussein look like a milquetoast...

Which is always the problem with unjustified war and occupation. We lack the moral imperative to win at any cost to the other side... We're not prepared to bomb their cities flat, kill as many of the enemy as required, whether they're in uniform or not.

The policy zealots who brought us Vietnam were thoroughly discredited among the Dems, 30 years ago, rightfully so. They just switched parties, modified their message slightly, and we have the modern neocons of today. Same whore, different dress.

Same stain!

I suppose some might say that if you have a problem with the way things are run in this country - you should feel free to go elsewhere. I hear Canada is a choice destination - maybe France too.

I'm not sure I'd take that stance but I hear it stated alot.

CsG

Usually by those on the Far Right!

I think it's more Authoritarian vs Libertarian than a left/right compass bearing. Ofcourse that leaves room for both sides to take that position. And I'm quite positive that I've heard that sort of statement from people on the left side of the fence here. Maybe not the same exact words - but quite similar "logic". Anyway - it's definately not exclusively a "Far Right!" stance.

CsG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Win this war, Raildogg? Of course we can win, provided we're willing to engage in mass murder on a scale that would make Saddam Hussein look like a milquetoast...

Which is always the problem with unjustified war and occupation. We lack the moral imperative to win at any cost to the other side... We're not prepared to bomb their cities flat, kill as many of the enemy as required, whether they're in uniform or not.

The policy zealots who brought us Vietnam were thoroughly discredited among the Dems, 30 years ago, rightfully so. They just switched parties, modified their message slightly, and we have the modern neocons of today. Same whore, different dress.

Same stain!

I suppose some might say that if you have a problem with the way things are run in this country - you should feel free to go elsewhere. I hear Canada is a choice destination - maybe France too.

I'm not sure I'd take that stance but I hear it stated alot.

CsG

Usually by those on the Far Right!

I think it's more Authoritarian vs Libertarian than a left/right compass bearing. Ofcourse that leaves room for both sides to take that position. And I'm quite positive that I've heard that sort of statement from people on the left side of the fence here. Maybe not the same exact words - but quite similar "logic". Anyway - it's definately not exclusively a "Far Right!" stance.

CsG

With regards to ones country which we are all part of it is. I've never heard a Left Winger, A Moderate or even a level headed Conservative say it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Win this war, Raildogg? Of course we can win, provided we're willing to engage in mass murder on a scale that would make Saddam Hussein look like a milquetoast...

Which is always the problem with unjustified war and occupation. We lack the moral imperative to win at any cost to the other side... We're not prepared to bomb their cities flat, kill as many of the enemy as required, whether they're in uniform or not.

The policy zealots who brought us Vietnam were thoroughly discredited among the Dems, 30 years ago, rightfully so. They just switched parties, modified their message slightly, and we have the modern neocons of today. Same whore, different dress.

Same stain!

I suppose some might say that if you have a problem with the way things are run in this country - you should feel free to go elsewhere. I hear Canada is a choice destination - maybe France too.

I'm not sure I'd take that stance but I hear it stated alot.

CsG

Usually by those on the Far Right!

I think it's more Authoritarian vs Libertarian than a left/right compass bearing. Ofcourse that leaves room for both sides to take that position. And I'm quite positive that I've heard that sort of statement from people on the left side of the fence here. Maybe not the same exact words - but quite similar "logic". Anyway - it's definately not exclusively a "Far Right!" stance.

CsG

With regards to ones country which we are all part of it is. I've never heard a Left Winger, A Moderate or even a level headed Conservative say it.

Well sure- we are all part of many different things - not just country. Anyway, I do believe I have heard someone on the left state similar and there are other instances where the same "logic" was used for different issues.
Again, I'm not sure that it'd be my stance but hey - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

CsG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Win this war, Raildogg? Of course we can win, provided we're willing to engage in mass murder on a scale that would make Saddam Hussein look like a milquetoast...

Which is always the problem with unjustified war and occupation. We lack the moral imperative to win at any cost to the other side... We're not prepared to bomb their cities flat, kill as many of the enemy as required, whether they're in uniform or not.

The policy zealots who brought us Vietnam were thoroughly discredited among the Dems, 30 years ago, rightfully so. They just switched parties, modified their message slightly, and we have the modern neocons of today. Same whore, different dress.

Same stain!

I suppose some might say that if you have a problem with the way things are run in this country - you should feel free to go elsewhere. I hear Canada is a choice destination - maybe France too.

I'm not sure I'd take that stance but I hear it stated alot.

CsG

Usually by those on the Far Right!

I think it's more Authoritarian vs Libertarian than a left/right compass bearing. Ofcourse that leaves room for both sides to take that position. And I'm quite positive that I've heard that sort of statement from people on the left side of the fence here. Maybe not the same exact words - but quite similar "logic". Anyway - it's definately not exclusively a "Far Right!" stance.

CsG

With regards to ones country which we are all part of it is. I've never heard a Left Winger, A Moderate or even a level headed Conservative say it.

Well sure- we are all part of many different things - not just country. Anyway, I do believe I have heard someone on the left state similar and there are other instances where the same "logic" was used for different issues.
Again, I'm not sure that it'd be my stance but hey - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

CsG

But when it comes to our country we all have stated rights, one of one is the right to dissent. Telling someone to like it or leave it is asking them to give up those rights to dissent. I've yet to hear anyone but those on the Far Right tell someone to like it or leave it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Win this war, Raildogg? Of course we can win, provided we're willing to engage in mass murder on a scale that would make Saddam Hussein look like a milquetoast...

Which is always the problem with unjustified war and occupation. We lack the moral imperative to win at any cost to the other side... We're not prepared to bomb their cities flat, kill as many of the enemy as required, whether they're in uniform or not.

The policy zealots who brought us Vietnam were thoroughly discredited among the Dems, 30 years ago, rightfully so. They just switched parties, modified their message slightly, and we have the modern neocons of today. Same whore, different dress.

Same stain!

I suppose some might say that if you have a problem with the way things are run in this country - you should feel free to go elsewhere. I hear Canada is a choice destination - maybe France too.

I'm not sure I'd take that stance but I hear it stated alot.

CsG

Usually by those on the Far Right!

I think it's more Authoritarian vs Libertarian than a left/right compass bearing. Ofcourse that leaves room for both sides to take that position. And I'm quite positive that I've heard that sort of statement from people on the left side of the fence here. Maybe not the same exact words - but quite similar "logic". Anyway - it's definately not exclusively a "Far Right!" stance.

CsG

With regards to ones country which we are all part of it is. I've never heard a Left Winger, A Moderate or even a level headed Conservative say it.

Well sure- we are all part of many different things - not just country. Anyway, I do believe I have heard someone on the left state similar and there are other instances where the same "logic" was used for different issues.
Again, I'm not sure that it'd be my stance but hey - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

CsG

But when it comes to our country we all have stated rights, one of one is the right to dissent. Telling someone to like it or leave it is asking them to give up those rights to dissent. I've yet to hear anyone but those on the Far Right tell someone to like it or leave it.

Ah but that doesn't mean they aren't free to go elsewhere either. People are more than free to leave if they don't like the way things are going. However, those that stay and petition those in charge have chosen to actively try to make things better. Just like everything else - you can either change the circumstances or you can remove yourself from the situation/location. Now again - I don't think I'd subscribe to this "logic" in total but others seem to - including some on the left here.

CsG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Win this war, Raildogg? Of course we can win, provided we're willing to engage in mass murder on a scale that would make Saddam Hussein look like a milquetoast...

Which is always the problem with unjustified war and occupation. We lack the moral imperative to win at any cost to the other side... We're not prepared to bomb their cities flat, kill as many of the enemy as required, whether they're in uniform or not.

The policy zealots who brought us Vietnam were thoroughly discredited among the Dems, 30 years ago, rightfully so. They just switched parties, modified their message slightly, and we have the modern neocons of today. Same whore, different dress.

Same stain!

I suppose some might say that if you have a problem with the way things are run in this country - you should feel free to go elsewhere. I hear Canada is a choice destination - maybe France too.

I'm not sure I'd take that stance but I hear it stated alot.

CsG

Usually by those on the Far Right!

I think it's more Authoritarian vs Libertarian than a left/right compass bearing. Ofcourse that leaves room for both sides to take that position. And I'm quite positive that I've heard that sort of statement from people on the left side of the fence here. Maybe not the same exact words - but quite similar "logic". Anyway - it's definately not exclusively a "Far Right!" stance.

CsG

With regards to ones country which we are all part of it is. I've never heard a Left Winger, A Moderate or even a level headed Conservative say it.

Well sure- we are all part of many different things - not just country. Anyway, I do believe I have heard someone on the left state similar and there are other instances where the same "logic" was used for different issues.
Again, I'm not sure that it'd be my stance but hey - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

CsG

But when it comes to our country we all have stated rights, one of one is the right to dissent. Telling someone to like it or leave it is asking them to give up those rights to dissent. I've yet to hear anyone but those on the Far Right tell someone to like it or leave it.

Ah but that doesn't mean they aren't free to go elsewhere either. People are more than free to leave if they don't like the way things are going. However, those that stay and petition those in charge have chosen to actively try to make things better. Just like everything else - you can either change the circumstances or you can remove yourself from the situation/location. Now again - I don't think I'd subscribe to this "logic" in total but others seem to - including some on the left here.

CsG

AH, I see, you are talking about being free to go elsewhere if you don't like the way things are. You are correct sir! I guess that's like a job. If you don't like the way your employer is treating you then you are free to go find employment elsewhere. If you choose to stay at that job then you have to abide with the way you are being treated..unless you are part of a Union😉

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
AH, I see, you are talking about being free to go elsewhere if you don't like the way things are. You are correct sir! I guess that's like a job. If you don't like the way your employer is treating you then you are free to go find employment elsewhere. If you choose to stay at that job then you have to abide with the way you are being treated..unless you are part of a Union😉

Sure - you're close. However in this thread it's about people whining about "neo-cons" and "unjust war".

But as to your employer scenario - employees can push for better conditions/environment without a union. They also don't have to put up with the employers BS and are free to leave, but again - if they stay and choose to work towards a good end - it's fine also.
Yes, unions disturb the natural employee/employer relationship - but that's a different thread entirely.

CsG