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Since my monitor seems to be dying, I am thinking of purchasing a new one. I've heard of short depth monitors and naturally flat monitors. Does anyone know if there is a monitor that incorporates both? Thanks.
 
i think hitachi makes some monitors with both of those features, tghe cm771 comes off the top of my head, its a 19" using hitachi's own tube, top rated for flat screen 19" by pcmag, up to u to decide if you consider them a reliable source
 
I have two Hitachi CM771 monitors. Flat and short tube... small small footprint. I highly recommend them. The box alone for them is a third smaller than the box my Dell 19inch came in.
 
There are currently no flat screen monitors with the depth of a short neck monitor. Short neck monitors are invar shadow mask based, but most of the flat screens are aperture grille. Samsung and Hitachi are currently the only two manufacturers producing flat screen shadow mask, and their depths are longer than traditional short neck monitors. Even then the flat screen monitors still have a shorter depth than most conventional monitors out there.
 
A good short depth 19" monitor is the Samsung 955sl which can be bought from Onvia for under $300. I helped my friend pick it out from Onvia. It takes up about as much space as a standard 17" monitor, perhaps a little wider. It is not flat, but it has a great picture. I do not believe there are any flat screen short depth's out there at this time. Perhaps in the next generation monitors.
 
my budget is $300 and was looking for a 19". Hope that helps. Sorry, forgot to mention that. Thanks for the replies.
 
As for the AS95F....Proceed with caution........

This monitor is low price for a reason.......The specs look good, geometry is aceptable, games look fine.....However....Text on the right side of the screen is about 20% less sharp than on the rest of the screen. No matter what you do you can't change that because what ever you do to increase sharpness will change sharpness across the screen so there is always that difference. I found it really anoying, for instance when reading posts on this board that go all the way across the screen. I also found the side edges where very grainy.....The scroll bars on IE5.0 would look like they had a cross hatch pattern. You could adjust that with the horizontal moire adjustment but that just made the text look even more blurry on the right side of the display. Strangley the verticle moire adjustment didn't seem to do anything at all.

LXi

I wouldn't reccomend this monitor until you've actually seen it for yourself....

As for shadow mask 19" I'm going to look at the Hitachi CM772....actually only the 771 is carried locally but if I like it I will order the 772 from Onvia...

I have seen the DP91 Mitsubishi and I like it enough to buy one...It has this auto fine adjustment which is pretty cool...

Tomorrow I'm going to try out a KDS AV195TF. If I decide I like AG I will either buy the DP91 or the KDS....

BTW....The Hitachi 771 is advertised as having comparable depth as a 17"

click here

For those of you who have posted here that have the CM771... Do you agree with any of the moire problems or issues reported by this user user review

Are there any problems with moire or text at 1280?

Back to your question.....I really don't think you'll find a 19" flat screen you will be happy with for $300, not unless VA comes back with value dollars.... On the other hand a 19" shadow mask with aceptable performance is do able....LG 995E sells for $303 ...Also if you can find anything locally either on display or with a reasonable return policy, but it and try it....I've seen them at Costco,Fryes, and at some independent shops.
 
zsir:

The A95F uses the Samsung DynaFlat tube, why havent I heard of such problems with the Samsung models then? Are you sure this happens to *all* A95Fs? Or have you just looked at one unit?
 
LXi

I bought one and that is what I expierienced.....I was going to send it back and ask for a different one but I found one displayed locally that was connected to the net.....It exhibited the same characteristics, so all I can say is I'm 0 for 2 with this monitor and I'm moving on. Of course that is my opinion, but I'm going to spend an extra $150 or so to get something better so believe me, I really wanted to like the AS95F....

I read your posts all the time and I see you really like the 900NF, and the KDS.... Do you have any of those monitors ? Have you been able to compare them side by side ?

I'm just asking because I have never seen the 900NF. I'm going to try the kds tonite. The Mitsubishi 91+ I've seen and liked.... I'm going to look at the Hitachi 771 this week also. Right now I know what type of geometry adjustments I want the monitor to have, the AS95F is kind of lacking in that department. The KDS and Mitsu have nice on screen adjustments. I'm wondering if there is any major display quality issues between the KDS and the 900NF. I'm guessing there isn't. As for AG vrs. SM at this point it doesn't mater to me. I will be interseted to see the quality of text on the KDS, if I don't like it I will probably lean more toward the Hitachi.
 
I bought the AS95F from Buy.com - the monitor worked for like 30 minutes and then started to burn!!! I know it sounds unbelivable, but it really happened.
I am a PC user since >10 years so no, I have not splashed it with water and yes the monitor was waiting at my place till it gets the right temperature, etc...

I have the FE950 also from NEC which I would recommnend. It's a great monitor.
 
In terms of the Moire problems, I can't really identify. I run my monitors at 1024 x 768, so I guess if you run it higher, problems might develop. In terms of the other problems, I can give my take on them. There does seem to be problems with the right edge and corners. I was really annoyed with it when I first got it, but after a week or so, I decided to overlook it since I liked everything else about the monitor. The top right edge of the screen is higher than the left... and on the bottom right corner, there seems to be a slight dimple about 1/15th up from the bottom. Again, I can live with these problems... so I still highly recommend them... just don't dwell on them...

dc
 
<<I bought one and that is what I expierienced.....I was going to send it back and ask for a different one but I found one displayed locally that was connected to the net.....It exhibited the same characteristics, so all I can say is I'm 0 for 2 with this monitor and I'm moving on. Of course that is my opinion, but I'm going to spend an extra $150 or so to get something better so believe me, I really wanted to like the AS95F....>>

I see, this is very strange, 'cause I did not notice such problems on the Samsung DF series. The A95F is a new product so I havent had a chance to see it myself, so thanks for the information.



<<I read your posts all the time and I see you really like the 900NF, and the KDS.... Do you have any of those monitors ? Have you been able to compare them side by side ?>>

Yes I have seen them, our local shop, Fry's Electronics, all have these monitors on display. While they both are AG, they do have a slightly different look, not necessarily better or worse than the other, they just look kinda different, I assume its because of the tube.



<<I'm just asking because I have never seen the 900NF. I'm going to try the kds tonite. The Mitsubishi 91+ I've seen and liked....>>

The Samsung 900NF uses the same tube as the DiamondPlus 91, I have also seen the DiamondPlus 91 and the image quality is comparable.



<<I'm going to look at the Hitachi 771 this week also. Right now I know what type of geometry adjustments I want the monitor to have, the AS95F is kind of lacking in that department.>>

Consider the 772 instead, its got better specs, and a lower price. As for the A95F, well, dont expect much out of a $300 monitor.



<<The KDS and Mitsu have nice on screen adjustments. I'm wondering if there is any major display quality issues between the KDS and the 900NF. I'm guessing there isn't.>>

You're right, there arent any problems with KDS or Samsung. Unless your get a lemon or it gets damaged during shipment.



<<As for AG vrs. SM at this point it doesn't mater to me. I will be interseted to see the quality of text on the KDS, if I don't like it I will probably lean more toward the Hitachi.>>

Well that would be up to you to decide. KDS/Samsung will be my pick for AG monitors, and Hitachi/Samsung DynaFlat for SM.
 
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