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new Microsoft ad campaign created with Macs

I have a feeling Microsoft will be issuing a press release firing their P.R. firm (the ones that probably actually did the ads) in 3... 2...
 
Yea, I know, it was done by an ad agency "Crispin & Boyer", I believe. But the point is that even the ad agency used Macs to do a "Windows is better" commercial.

I just find it humorous.
 
Originally posted by: Kmax82
Yea, I know, it was done by an ad agency "Crispin & Boyer", I believe. But the point is that even the ad agency used Macs to do a "Windows is better" commercial.

I just find it humorous.

Well they don't go to the lengths of putting down the mac, therefor I do not see a problem with this commercial being made with something like final cut pro on a mac....

Perhaps if they slagged off Apple then it would be more " humorous"...Although I see your logic..

On a related note I went to do some consultancy for a group in canary wharf in London.

All 20 of them had MAC;s are were singing praises to me, but then they had XP in an VM to do all their work in. I asked why and one of them said " more clear and to be fair CAD and MS office just works "

Buying a MAC to run windows in a VM...I do question the reasoning.
 
Originally posted by: clarkey01
Originally posted by: Kmax82
Yea, I know, it was done by an ad agency "Crispin & Boyer", I believe. But the point is that even the ad agency used Macs to do a "Windows is better" commercial.

I just find it humorous.

Well they don't go to the lengths of putting down the mac, therefor I do not see a problem with this commercial being made with something like final cut pro on a mac....

Perhaps if they slagged off Apple then it would be more " humorous"...Although I see your logic..

On a related note I went to do some consultancy for a group in canary wharf in London.

All 20 of them had MAC;s are were singing praises to me, but then they had XP in an VM to do all their work in. I asked why and one of them said " more clear and to be fair CAD and MS office just works "

Buying a MAC to run windows in a VM...I do question the reasoning.

Yea, I see where you're coming from.

If all I had to do all day was work with Office, then I would definitely use Windows. But I primarily do a lot with video, graphics work, so everything works just fine in OS X. I have a VM installed to test my web apps in Windows, but that's it. I don't use Windows for anything else.

But again, if you are using Windows more than 50% of the time, then you definitely need to move to all Windows, or all OS X.

 
Originally posted by: Kmax82
Originally posted by: clarkey01
Originally posted by: Kmax82
Yea, I know, it was done by an ad agency "Crispin & Boyer", I believe. But the point is that even the ad agency used Macs to do a "Windows is better" commercial.

I just find it humorous.

Well they don't go to the lengths of putting down the mac, therefor I do not see a problem with this commercial being made with something like final cut pro on a mac....

Perhaps if they slagged off Apple then it would be more " humorous"...Although I see your logic..

On a related note I went to do some consultancy for a group in canary wharf in London.

All 20 of them had MAC;s are were singing praises to me, but then they had XP in an VM to do all their work in. I asked why and one of them said " more clear and to be fair CAD and MS office just works "

Buying a MAC to run windows in a VM...I do question the reasoning.

Yea, I see where you're coming from.

If all I had to do all day was work with Office, then I would definitely use Windows. But I primarily do a lot with video, graphics work, so everything works just fine in OS X. I have a VM installed to test my web apps in Windows, but that's it. I don't use Windows for anything else.

But again, if you are using Windows more than 50% of the time, then you definitely need to move to all Windows, or all OS X.

I ask an open question , I have used a little bit of final cut pro on a G5 years ago and to be honest, when you say you "need" OS X if you do video, what makes the system the ultimate choice for video enthusiasts?

A few years ago, Apple went to great lengths to mock X86 and claim RISC was the only way to be, these days the hardware is pretty much the same apart from the buffered slower RAM. Does the advantage that OSX has over windows in terms of video production come down to the unix-derived architecture that it has employed or just the fact windows does not have comparable software which does the same job at the same speed?
 
Originally posted by: clarkey01
I ask an open question , I have used a little bit of final cut pro on a G5 years ago and to be honest, when you say you "need" OS X if you do video, what makes the system the ultimate choice for video enthusiasts?

A few years ago, Apple went to great lengths to mock X86 and claim RISC was the only way to be, these days the hardware is pretty much the same apart from the buffered slower RAM. Does the advantage that OSX has over windows in terms of video production come down to the unix-derived architecture that it has employed or just the fact windows does not have comparable software which does the same job at the same speed?

There's arguments for both sides. Part of the difference lies in the operating system; I feel Leopard is a more stable environment to work in. However, you can get all of the same apps or very similar apps for both systems - Adobe CS3, FCP/Vegas/whatever, and so on. Windows offers a lot more flexibility because there's more development because more people have Windows than Mac. It's kind of a mixed bag. Almost all of the major graphics people I know in industry use Macs, from professional graphics design to video editing for Hollywood. I think it boils down to what you feel comfortable with. Although I personally do like Final Cut Pro a lot!
 
The advantage OS X has in the video department is Final Cut Pro. There is no Windows version of FCP and I doubt there ever will be. It's a big selling point for MacPro's. Now if you want to use some other software, like Avid, then that will run on PC's.

About your second question, RISC is the place to be. All x86 processors since the K6 have had internal CISC to RISC converters, in which the processor basically splits x86 instructions up to handle them better. Most modern processors have included RISC-style instruction optimizations. It's been quite a bit longer than a few years ago that Apple was showing off RISC processors. Try almost 10. It's not that RISC died, it's that pieces of it have been adopted by other processors reducing the need for specific RISC processors, like the PowerPC.

 
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