New medical marijuana policy issued

[alchemize]

Heard this on NPR this AM...

Kudos to the Obama administration, as this makes it "official". I can only hope this is but a first step in a much more sensible drug policy in the US...
Link

Maybe it will even get taken off of Schedule I? Silliest scheduling ever...

 

[Ausm]

I need medical marijuana to deal with your posts

 

[DealMonkey]

Interesting timing, because the Los Angeles County DA was just announcing a new legal campaign against dispensaries in L.A.

http://bit.ly/yFt9H

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries for over-the-counter sales, targeting a practice that has become commonplace under an initiative approved by California voters more than a decade ago.

"The vast, vast, vast majority, about 100%, of dispensaries in Los Angeles County and the city are operating illegally, they are dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory," he said. "The time is right to deal with this problem."

 

[Tab]

I just read this as well, I wonder if if the DEA/FDA will chance their stance on Medical Marijuana. Right now their site states it has no medicinal value.

 

[MiniDoom]

how about changing the federal laws now obama?

 

[Moonbeam]

Drug laws will change if the Republican party dies as it should. Drug laws are designed to create a criminal community the right can point their God finger at and feel holy as they tremble in terror, on the advise of party leaders, that drug users are out to destroy their fundy religion and pervert their children.

By creating this terror they also create the desire to take drugs just so they can feel a bit of novelty and thrill in being evil.

Repression creates desire to engage in what is repressed. Objectivity allows for a rational assessment of any real dangers that drugs of various kinds impose. Without some hidden itching to rebel against a sick repressive upbringing, there will be little need for healthy minds to use drugs. For the healthy minded, life is the trip, generally speaking, I think.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Interesting timing, because the Los Angeles County DA was just announcing a new legal campaign against dispensaries in L.A.

http://bit.ly/yFt9H

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries for over-the-counter sales, targeting a practice that has become commonplace under an initiative approved by California voters more than a decade ago.

"The vast, vast, vast majority, about 100%, of dispensaries in Los Angeles County and the city are operating illegally, they are dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory," he said. "The time is right to deal with this problem."

Which translates into the State of California missing out on tax revenues.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Interesting timing, because the Los Angeles County DA was just announcing a new legal campaign against dispensaries in L.A.

http://bit.ly/yFt9H

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries for over-the-counter sales, targeting a practice that has become commonplace under an initiative approved by California voters more than a decade ago.

"The vast, vast, vast majority, about 100%, of dispensaries in Los Angeles County and the city are operating illegally, they are dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory," he said. "The time is right to deal with this problem."

Yup, everyone's worried right now in SoCal. It used to be everyone was afraid of the feds and not the state, but now everyone's afraid of the state and not the feds.

I'll update this thread after I get today's ASA update re: Fed announcement.

Originally posted by: alchemize

Maybe it will even get taken off of Schedule I? Silliest scheduling ever...

Doesn't this kind of contradict itself? It's okay for states to have medical marijuana, but medical marijuana has no accepted medical value?

 

[waggy]

good.

I am all for medical MJ. I wouldn't mind seeing the goverment go after the scammers though. Those with chronic pain would benifit from it.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Interesting timing, because the Los Angeles County DA was just announcing a new legal campaign against dispensaries in L.A.

http://bit.ly/yFt9H

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries for over-the-counter sales, targeting a practice that has become commonplace under an initiative approved by California voters more than a decade ago.

"The vast, vast, vast majority, about 100%, of dispensaries in Los Angeles County and the city are operating illegally, they are dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory," he said. "The time is right to deal with this problem."

Yup, everyone's worried right now in SoCal. It used to be everyone was afraid of the feds and not the state, but now everyone's afraid of the state and not the feds.

There are loads of assholes in law enforcement who are willing to climb on drug users to advance their careers because of the bigotry out there against drugs. These folk are self serving slime who care not a wit for the good of the people.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Drug laws will change if the Republican party dies as it should. Drug laws are designed to create a criminal community the right can point their God finger at and feel holy as they tremble in terror, on the advise of party leaders, that drug users are out to destroy their fundy religion and pervert their children.

By creating this terror they also create the desire to take drugs just so they can feel a bit of novelty and thrill in being evil.

Repression creates desire to engage in what is repressed. Objectivity allows for a rational assessment of any real dangers that drugs of various kinds impose. Without some hidden itching to rebel against a sick repressive upbringing, there will be little need for healthy minds to use drugs. For the healthy minded, life is the trip, generally speaking, I think.

I'm a republican christian and I think mj should be legal. Many christians I know feel the same. I don't feel the need for things to be illegal just so I can point my finger. I'm not sure what the point of your post was. Not trying argue, but I don't understand where you are coming from. I know 'some' extremist conservatives might feel the way you describe, but I hardly think that's the driving force behind the way the laws are.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Heard this on NPR this AM...

Kudos to the Obama administration, as this makes it "official".

Making it "official" would mean ending all Federal marijuana laws, IMO.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Interesting timing, because the Los Angeles County DA was just announcing a new legal campaign against dispensaries in L.A.

http://bit.ly/yFt9H

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries for over-the-counter sales, targeting a practice that has become commonplace under an initiative approved by California voters more than a decade ago.

"The vast, vast, vast majority, about 100%, of dispensaries in Los Angeles County and the city are operating illegally, they are dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory," he said. "The time is right to deal with this problem."

Yup, everyone's worried right now in SoCal. It used to be everyone was afraid of the feds and not the state, but now everyone's afraid of the state and not the feds.

There are loads of assholes in law enforcement who are willing to climb on drug users to advance their careers because of the bigotry out there against drugs. These folk are self serving slime who care not a wit for the good of the people.

yeap.

But its not just MJ. many law enforcment are also going after Chronic pain patients who have legal prescriptions of narcotic drugs and the doctors that prescribe them.

its starting to have a chilling effect on those that NEED the medications.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Drug laws will change if the Republican party dies as it should.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fXpwp1bwQ

Only one person up there wanted to "decriminalize" marijuana. On the Republican stage, there was only one, and he would even go further than the one Democrat, wanting to end all Federal drug laws. And going further back, Clinton was a strong supporter of the drug war as well.

My point? This isn't a Rep vs Dem fight. This is a gov't vs people fight.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Drug laws will change if the Republican party dies as it should.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fXpwp1bwQ

Only one person up there wanted to "decriminalize" marijuana. On the Republican stage, there was only one, and he would even go further than the one Democrat, wanting to end all Federal drug laws. And going further back, Clinton was a strong supporter of the drug war as well.

My point? This isn't a Rep vs Dem fight. This is a gov't vs people fight.

Clinton was a supporter? He may have not changed laws but he certainly wasn't as supporter.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: alchemize
Heard this on NPR this AM...

Kudos to the Obama administration, as this makes it "official".

Making it "official" would mean ending all Federal marijuana laws, IMO.

Not even close. The new directive specifically addresses medical marijuana laws, not all marijuana laws.

Of course, I personally think laws against responsible marijuana use by adults are absurd and indefensible. And the irony of almost-bankrupt California wasting precious resources to fight marijuana sales, rather than wholesale legalizing the drug and raising billions in tax revenues each year, is worthy of a Terry Gilliam movie.

 

[shira]

How do Republicans justify "libertarianism" as applying only to business, gun rights, and heterosexual marriage?

 

[ayabe]

I'm not so sure I would classify this as a strictly left vs right issue. There plenty of so called Democrats who fully support current drug laws. Any serious attempt at legalization would face more opposition than the current healthcare debacle, you'd not only have the entire healthcare/pharma industry lined up against it, but you'd have the prison industry against it as well. Billions of dollars in revenue would be at stake.

The nanny mentality exists across the political spectrum, I want to believe in my heart that most of the electorate would support legalization if they knew all the facts, but I'm not so sure that's the case.

The truth is out there but far too many people love to fall back on old stigma's and discredited propaganda.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: shira
How do Republicans justify "libertarianism" as applying only to business, gun rights, and heterosexual marriage?

the same way democrats justify "liberalism" as not applying to gun bans, higher taxes and eminent domain.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I'm not so sure I would classify this as a strictly left vs right issue. There plenty of so called Democrats who fully support current drug laws. Any serious attempt at legalization would face more opposition than the current healthcare debacle, you'd not only have the entire healthcare/pharma industry lined up against it, but you'd have the prison industry against it as well. Billions of dollars in revenue would be at stake.

The nanny mentality exists across the political spectrum, I want to believe in my heart that most of the electorate would support legalization if they knew all the facts, but I'm not so sure that's the case.

The truth is out there but far too many people love to fall back on old stigma's and discredited propaganda.

I agree. But dealing with resistance to constructive change is what good leadership should be about. Not that anything will change in our lifetimes.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: shira
I agree. But dealing with resistance to constructive change is what good leadership should be about. Not that anything will change in our lifetimes.

You think so? I'd disagreed. There are many young people whom have used the drug and while they may not be consist users, they know the existing laws need to go. In a couple decades there are going to be quite a few old rich men whom probably want to donate their wealth in to causes they support.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: shira
I agree. But dealing with resistance to constructive change is what good leadership should be about. Not that anything will change in our lifetimes.

You think so? I'd disagreed. There are many young people whom have used the drug and while they may not be consist users, they know the existing laws need to go. In a couple decades there are going to be quite a few old rich men whom probably want to donate their wealth in to causes they support.

weed has been common for 40 years now, there should be these people now.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
weed has been common for 40 years now, there should be these people now.

I agree with this.

I mean the baby boomers have complete control of the system from top to bottom and they smoked more pot than anyone.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: shira
I agree. But dealing with resistance to constructive change is what good leadership should be about. Not that anything will change in our lifetimes.

You think so? I'd disagreed. There are many young people whom have used the drug and while they may not be consist users, they know the existing laws need to go. In a couple decades there are going to be quite a few old rich men whom probably want to donate their wealth in to causes they support.

I hope you're right. But I have faith in the lowest common denominators of political debate: fear of change and the cynical willingness of vested interests to exploit that fear.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: shira
I agree. But dealing with resistance to constructive change is what good leadership should be about. Not that anything will change in our lifetimes.

You think so? I'd disagreed. There are many young people whom have used the drug and while they may not be consist users, they know the existing laws need to go. In a couple decades there are going to be quite a few old rich men whom probably want to donate their wealth in to causes they support.

weed has been common for 40 years now, there should be these people now.

it's all about the word "medicinal" if you can prove a "medicinal" use for ANYTHING you can overcome opposition.