New McCain Attack ad with Biden's words

[Nebor]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...-ad-with-bidens-words/

Pretty good. It's funny that Biden said all of that and ended up running with Obama. 🙂

 

[Jaskalas]

That is going to be painful.

 

[jpeyton]

Repost

You're actually third, behind Queasy and Socio. Weird, because I thought your McSame fan club was on the same page about this.

 

[BladeVenom]

Amusing, but it's already been pointed out in the Biden for VP thread.

 

[Unmoosical]

Why do I feel like Biden's words got cut off?

"I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off."

Maybe it wasn't but I'd like to know what his next sentence was.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
That is going to be painful.

You're right, this is going to be quite fun.

 

[bozack]

if this was a surprise to the Obama camp then I would really question their common sense.

Everyone knew this was coming. Personally I am still surprised Obama would have picked Biden given his past comments on him, it?s like purposely wearing a kick me shirt.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: bozack
if this was a surprise to the Obama camp then I would really question their common sense.

Everyone knew this was coming. Personally I am still surprised Obama would have picked Biden given his past comments on him, it?s like purposely wearing a kick me shirt.

Ummm, they were competitors. Besides, last time I checked, they were both adults and understood it wasn't personal.

 

[Thump553]

Imagine that-two candidates running for the same job, and one says something critical about the other. One of them has more Washington experience than the other, so he claims that is important. Who would have thought?

I'm sure McCain's campaign had a similar ad already filmed for every possible VP selection.

Except to political junkies, this ad is a yawner and will sink without a ripple.

 

[rockyct]

Biden's comments are by no means a surprise to the Obama camp. It's just a political price they understood they had to make. McCain should be careful though because if he picks Romney there is even more footage of them attacking each other. They may not match Obama's attacks on McCain as well, but I'm fairly sure there's stuff about McCain "flip flopping."

 

[Lemon law]

As conditions have changed, Biden's positions have changed also. McSame is the same stupid idiot he always was, and beware, Biden bites back. Events are very likely to prove Biden far more correct than McCain,
so the GOP delight may well backfire big time.

Both McCain and Obama have their own vulnerabilities, but McCain has failed to separate himself from GWB. And the dems will focus on that big time. The more McCain goes negative, the more vulnerable he will become.

 

[ProfJohn]

This will be the gift that keeps on giving.

When ever McCain is asked the question "do you think Obama is ready" he can just point to Biden's words as an answer.

 

[Vic]

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see. Beyond that, it doesn't mean anything, and it won't send any new voters over to McCain, now that Biden has not only endorsed Obama's campaign, but joined the ticket, which obviously means that right now in 2008, Biden must feel that Obama is now ready.

I believe that, when history looks back on this election, it will decide that it was McCain's decision to directly pander to the lowest common denominator ignorance and hatred of the talk radio 'conservative right' that cost him the independent swing voters and thus, the election.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
This will be the gift that keeps on giving.

When ever McCain is asked the question "do you think Obama is ready" he can just point to Biden's words as an answer.

PJ is IMO an interesting study in what I was talking about above, because you can actually watch him go through the process with his posts almost every time.
No matter what the circumstances or the information provided, he will always sift through it, picking only what he agrees with and discarding what he doesn't agree with, so that he can come to a conclusion that favors what he already believed, which is usually the agenda of the Republican party.
The problem with thinking that way is that there is nothing quite so immoral as self-dishonesty. Once a person has committed themselves to believing their own lies, there's no wrong they cannot justify. Most people know this. You're only fooling yourself. But hey, this is why you're the dmcowen674 of the right here, PJ.

The actual fact is that this ad is dead in the water, based on those key words 'right now.' If asked, all Biden has to say is that he's recently had long talks with Obama, has seen how he has grown and matured on the campaign trail, and now he believes that Obama is ready. Case closed.

In the meantime, the Pub primaries were not without their own nastiness, and McCain has now opened the door for all of that to come out against him.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Vic

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see.

I personally love hearing what I want to hear, AND seeing what I want to see.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Vic

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see.

I personally love hearing what I want to hear, AND seeing what I want to see.

Who doesn't?

The issue is that it's not wise to do so by ignoring what you don't want to see and hear.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Vic

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see.

I personally love hearing what I want to hear, AND seeing what I want to see.

Who doesn't?

The issue is that it's not wise to do so by ignoring what you don't want to see and hear.

Did you say something?

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Vic

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see.

I personally love hearing what I want to hear, AND seeing what I want to see.

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Pardon me Nebor, when I say what you want to hear and see comes from the lunatic fringe. Experience is one thing, maybe we should want a Presidential candidate who combines the experiences of a Senator and the executive experience of a Governor, but when it comes to McCain, he may have only extensive legislative experience, but when you are dealing with man who graduated in the dead bottom of the naval academy, one has to ask if McCain has the brains or the right experiences to be ever prepared for the Presidency.

Lots of people have experience, but few have vision.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Vic

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see. Beyond that, it doesn't mean anything, and it won't send any new voters over to McCain, now that Biden has not only endorsed Obama's campaign, but joined the ticket, which obviously means that right now in 2008, Biden must feel that Obama is now ready.

I believe that, when history looks back on this election, it will decide that it was McCain's decision to directly pander to the lowest common denominator ignorance and hatred of the talk radio 'conservative right' that cost him the independent swing voters and thus, the election.

Haha, I think your sig pertains particularly well to the election process.

In any system, a process can occur only if it increases the total entropy of the universe.

I mean to include Obama's campaign in this as well as McCain's. Obama has tried to simply offend no one, which is why he's yet to truly energize his natural base yet.

I think both McCain and Obama have let their campaigns be hijacked by traditional political operatives on both sides, so we get the mean spirited, intolerant McCain pandering to the yahoos, and the vapid, offends no one but stands for little Obama trying to be all things to all people.

But the Supreme Court is the truest and best battleground test for me, and here, it is Obama all the way and then some.

I will do everything I possibly can as a citizen to prevent McCain irreversibly tilting the already tilted balance of the court to the radical, retrograde and socially intolerant right.

If nowhere else, it is here that the election comes into sharp focus for me, and the fundamental (no pun intended) differences between the two candidates becomes stark and unmistakable.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
As conditions have changed, Biden's positions have changed also. McSame is the same stupid idiot he always was, and beware, Biden bites back. Events are very likely to prove Biden far more correct than McCain,
so the GOP delight may well backfire big time.

Both McCain and Obama have their own vulnerabilities, but McCain has failed to separate himself from GWB. And the dems will focus on that big time. The more McCain goes negative, the more vulnerable he will become.

You mean like how he voted for the Partial Birth Abortion ban, and then whined when the Supreme Court upheld his vote?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Vic

From a debate in 2007, a clip shows Mr. Biden standing next to Mr. Obama. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News queried Mr. Biden: ?You were asked, ?Is he ready?? You said, ?I think he can be ready but right now, I don?t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??

This attack ad only works for those people who like hearing what they want to hear, and seeing what they want to see.

I personally love hearing what I want to hear, AND seeing what I want to see.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pardon me Nebor, when I say what you want to hear and see comes from the lunatic fringe. Experience is one thing, maybe we should want a Presidential candidate who combines the experiences of a Senator and the executive experience of a Governor, but when it comes to McCain, he may have only extensive legislative experience, but when you are dealing with man who graduated in the dead bottom of the naval academy, one has to ask if McCain has the brains or the right experiences to be ever prepared for the Presidency.

Lots of people have experience, but few have vision.

As has been demonstrated repeatedly in the past, you don't have to be a genius to be the President of the United States. A super power, such as sex appeal, or the ability to see into peoples' souls is sufficient.

 

[dahunan]

voters focusing on ANY OF THIS HORSESHIT... are the same type of retards that vote for Bush and hate America...

Focus on what these chickenshits like McCain are going to do to your country.. not who can fabricate the best shit talking.. are we all ghetto?

 

[quest55720]

It could be me but this ad put Romney's chances at vp to zero. Why run this ad when in a week Obama's people can do the same. I think that McCain is going to pick a VP who did not run for president this year. I think he is going to take a governor I am thinking either Sarah Palin to try and get some hillary supporters. Or he chooses Tim Pawlenty a young rising star in the party who would bring a lot of youth to the ticket.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
This will be the gift that keeps on giving.

When ever McCain is asked the question "do you think Obama is ready" he can just point to Biden's words as an answer.

PJ is IMO an interesting study in what I was talking about above, because you can actually watch him go through the process with his posts almost every time.
No matter what the circumstances or the information provided, he will always sift through it, picking only what he agrees with and discarding what he doesn't agree with, so that he can come to a conclusion that favors what he already believed, which is usually the agenda of the Republican party.
The problem with thinking that way is that there is nothing quite so immoral as self-dishonesty. Once a person has committed themselves to believing their own lies, there's no wrong they cannot justify. Most people know this. You're only fooling yourself. But hey, this is why you're the dmcowen674 of the right here, PJ.

The actual fact is that this ad is dead in the water, based on those key words 'right now.' If asked, all Biden has to say is that he's recently had long talks with Obama, has seen how he has grown and matured on the campaign trail, and now he believes that Obama is ready. Case closed.

In the meantime, the Pub primaries were not without their own nastiness, and McCain has now opened the door for all of that to come out against him.

Vic, 10 months ago Biden said Obama was not ready.

What has happened in the last 10 months to change that opinion? (Other than being offered the VP slot.)

Also it is kind of funny to watch you attack and try to minimize me why you run around and repeat the party/Obama mantra. There are reasons why Biden makes a good pick and reasons why he makes a bad pick, this is one of those reasons. VERY few people are going to disagree with that assessment.

 

[dahunan]

I could really care less who runs this country... as long as they are not warmongers and torturers

BUT... this seems like an excellent pick.. IF Obama wasn't ready.. THEN would a man AS READY as Biden PLUS Obama ... make an excellent team? VP's are usually treated like First Ladys... but I doubt Biden would accept a role like that....