new mandrake 7.2 install really unstable on my duron system

[THELAIR]

Hey guys...

Been trying to get mandrake 7.2 to work on my system for a week now. Figured it out: video card. Must of had a matrox card it didnt like or support. Threw it out and threw in a older voodoo3 3K card. She installed just fine!! No probs what so ever.

But........ now when i ACUTALLY use the program weird things happen.

a) the bottom task trey where the K Start button and all the rest of the task trey will randomly dissapear.
b) was playing freeciv, cant seem to get past 200-300 turns with out it crash the system.
c) other weird unexplained things that just either make the screen clear itself (i can see the default purple background and i can move the mouse but the entire screen is blank)

also when these things happen, CTRL ALT DEL doesnt work... I have to do a hard reboot...


System specs:

Duron 650 (not overclocked)
128 MB ram
Asus a7v
sb live (sound works great i might add!)
3com nic
voodoo3 3K video card
KDE 1.2? (not hte latest)
cd-rom floppy etc...

mouse and keyboard are all PS2, nothing USB or anything weird

im gonna try the mandrake "update" function and see what happens, maybe there is an update that iwll work...

win2k is extremly stable compared to this. Not sure if its somthing hardware related that is making it crap out or what.

Any insight would be appreciated.

 

[THELAIR]

another thing ill mention, is that i cant get mozilla 8 to install ... i downloaded it. I "unzipped" it to a new folder, and i see mozilla-installer and mozilla-insaller.bin but they dont execute only open up in a stupid text viewer...grrr

there is no package folder either like the readme.txt file says there should be, only an XPI that has other sub folders, like browser, i even went ahead and extracted that as well but there is no executable in there that i could run that would start up any sort of proram.
grrr

 

[ddiccico]

what was the error? you might have to do a chmod +x to make the installer executable.

 

[THELAIR]

can i do that from within konqurer?

why cant i just double click on the install file? Why cant "double click" equal execute rather htan view?

blah...

 

[ddiccico]

open an shell window. go to the dir where the installer is. type chmod +x <installer name>. (whatever the name of the installer is without the brackets). this makes the file executable. now try executing it.

if this doesn't work, it's possible that you didn't d/l it as a binary file. redownload it, right click and select save as...

 

[BOFH]

or right click on it and somewere in it's properties you can make it executable by owner. btw - next time get the non installer ver and it runs out of the tarball

 

[earthman]

You have to run that as a shell script, don't you? I don't think clicking on it works.
Mandrake 7.2 is generally unstable...I removed it from my system even though it has many nice features...too many things just didn't work.

 

[BOFH]

earthman

You can have a icon for any shell script. It's not a problem. It MUST be executable by the user though. FWIW I stopped using Mandrake once 7 came out as too much wasn't quite right. Returned to RH at that point and now use Debian also

 

[CTho9305]

ctrl+alt+del does not work while in X (the gui - where you use the mouse. Its like windows if you use KDE or GNOME). Instead, use ctrl+alt+backspace, it quits X forcefully and returns you to the shell.

 

[TomBilliodeaux]

Can anyone imagine the bitching if Microsoft released an operating system with these problems.
I don't like cheap if cheap means it works after weeks and hours with minimal support for drivers that aren't there.
Thats why Windows is so successful, it works with almost all hardware.

 

[BOFH]

TomBilliodeaux

the support is there simply by force of momentum that windows has. many of the drivers are of low quality. almost all the hardware could also be supported under linux if the manufacturors would simply release the documenation nessesary. IBM is starting to do some of it. 3dfx was decent about it. Matrox has been decent as of late.

Linux is not for everyone or every situation. You are not being forced to use it and if you choose to you will need to learn new things. This is really no worse than learning windows if you don't know anything about computers, there are simply more options.

 

[THELAIR]

did hte CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE thing...

got this error:

kdm: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3 undefinded symbol: default frame width^c11kthemestyle
Init: id &quot;x&quot; responding to fast: disabled for 5 minutes

now the whole screen blinks from the shell back to the x windows gui screen, keeps goin, back n forth, back n forth... i had to do CTRL+ALT+backspace again to get it to say &quot;disabled for 5 minutes&quot;

Its a Vodoo3 3K, on a 14&quot; daytec monitor doing 1024x768 @ 32bit on a &quot;generic svga monitor 1024x768@60hz&quot;

im gonna try doing a mandrake 8 install later tonight and see what happens.