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New Mac mini - core solo, core duo and ipod hifi

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I also might add:

A variety of hard drive capacities are available for Mac mini. All Mac mini models include standard Serial ATA hard drives featuring data transfers up to 1.5 Gigabits per second. All hard drives run at 7,200 revolutions per minute (rpm).
 
That's nothing man, they used to slam Intel CPUs at every turn - now they're them. I guess they just have a really bad memory when it comes to what their old marketing campaigns used to say. 😛
 
looks good, but by the time I spec it out the macbook still looks like a better buy to me. I plan on getting a mac as soon as they get linux working 100% on the new x86 macs. I just want to have a fall back option if I happen to really hate OSX (not that I think I will).
 
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: killershroom1985
Bwahaha...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/killershroom/untitled.jpg

Off the old Mac Mini info site that someone had saved.

if that isn't big enough, just go see the one the guy posted here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=183454&page=5

I don't get it, who would buy a mini for the gaming anyway?
My thought exactly. I have a top of the line PC for that. Well, it will be as soon as the 7900GT hits the streets.
 
Originally posted by: aphex
I don't get it, who would buy a mini for the gaming anyway?
I wouldn't but as the pic suggests, apparently Apple customers do, given the marketing.

Lock the Target
Or one 3D game. Go ahead, just try to play Halo on a budget PC. Most say they?re good for 2D games only. That?s because an ?integrated Intel graphics? chip steals power from the CPU and siphons off memory from system-level RAM. You?d have to buy an extra card to get the graphics performance of Mac mini, and some cheaper PCs don?t even have an open slot to let you add one.
 
Should that 1.5 gHz Core Solo be comparable in performance to the 1.6 gHz Pentium M so common in current Windows notebooks?
 
Originally posted by: Kaido
I also might add:

A variety of hard drive capacities are available for Mac mini. All Mac mini models include standard Serial ATA hard drives featuring data transfers up to 1.5 Gigabits per second. All hard drives run at 7,200 revolutions per minute (rpm).

mshan just pointed out in my HT thread that Apple's tech specs for the Intel Mini says "60GB or 80GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive; optional 100GB or 120GB drive". So Apple's website is contradicting itself. Bummer; I haven't heard of 120gb 7200rpm 2.5" hard drives anyway.
 
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: Kaido
I also might add:

A variety of hard drive capacities are available for Mac mini. All Mac mini models include standard Serial ATA hard drives featuring data transfers up to 1.5 Gigabits per second. All hard drives run at 7,200 revolutions per minute (rpm).

mshan just pointed out in my HT thread that Apple's tech specs for the Intel Mini says "60GB or 80GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive; optional 100GB or 120GB drive". So Apple's website is contradicting itself. Bummer; I haven't heard of 120gb 7200rpm 2.5" hard drives anyway.

I believe they are out... I've had a 100gb 7200rpm 2.5" drive in my T41 for 4-5 months now
 
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: Kaido
I also might add:

A variety of hard drive capacities are available for Mac mini. All Mac mini models include standard Serial ATA hard drives featuring data transfers up to 1.5 Gigabits per second. All hard drives run at 7,200 revolutions per minute (rpm).

mshan just pointed out in my HT thread that Apple's tech specs for the Intel Mini says "60GB or 80GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive; optional 100GB or 120GB drive". So Apple's website is contradicting itself. Bummer; I haven't heard of 120gb 7200rpm 2.5" hard drives anyway.

I believe they are out... I've had a 100gb 7200rpm 2.5" drive in my T41 for 4-5 months now

Yeah, 100gb 7200rpm 2.5" drives are currently available from both Hitachi and Seagate, but the fastest 120gb drive I've seen is 5400rpm. Plus 160gb drives are around the corner, so the Intel Mini rev. B will probably have those as an option too.
 
Originally posted by: mshan
Should that 1.5 gHz Core Solo be comparable in performance to the 1.6 gHz Pentium M so common in current Windows notebooks?
Yeah, in the same ballpark.
 
So, that Core Solo isn't that bad a cpu?

Also, do the recently released Mac Book Pros have 7200 rpm drives? Might seem odd that they would put them in the entry level consumer product and not in their pro products (especially with all of the gripes about integrated graphics; seems like 5400 rpm and discrete graphics would have been smarter?)?
 
Originally posted by: mshan
So, that Core Solo isn't that bad a cpu?
Core Solo is an excellent CPU. It's Yonah single-core, with 2 MB L2 cache. Think of it like an updated Pentium M, with even better power characteristics.

In fact, I was kinda expecting the possibility of them using the Celeron Yonah, which "only" has 1 MB L2, but which is significantly cheaper.

Originally posted by: Dug
Should of stuck the x1600 in there like the laptop. Big mistake.
Nah X1600 is too much. I was hoping for X1300, and was expecting the 9550. I can't say I'm totally surprised they chose integrated graphics though, since most Mac mini users don't really care much about the graphics. Hell, a lot of them are still using 512 MB system RAM, and as fair as I'm concerned, running Tiger with 512 MB makes me want to pull my hair out.
 
Hi Eug:

Could you elaborate on, in terms of snappiness and system speed, 1 GB improves upon the standard 2 x 256 MB memory configuration.

For general websurfing and using the Mac Mini as a music server (possibly occaisionally playing dvds or using iPhoto, etc), would I sense any sort of difference?

Also, I read on another forum that the 1.5 gHz Core Solo should comparable to a Pentium 4 2.8 gHz. True?
 
Just found this video clip of today's presentation:

http://zdnet.com.com/1606-2_2-6044210.html

Based on my memory of the demo of the Intel iMacs, everything seems less responsive and snappy.

Do you think this is because of the weak integrated graphics or is it just a function of a more power cpu in the Intel iMac?
 
Honestly, the integrated graphics aren't all that bad. You can't game with the GMA 950, but it'll do fine for most normal desktop use. Even web content creation apps like Photoshop and Flash out to run great on the Core Duo version once the Universal Binary version is out (if you bump up the RAM to at least 1GB, of course). The shared memory really doesn't "rob" the processor of any bandwidth anyway, considering that dual channel DDR2 5300 gives you twice as much bandwidth as the Core Duo's FSB can handle anyway, so the onboard graphics has 5.3 GB/s of bandwith at its disposal that isn't even used by the processor (the higher clock speed Core Duo iMac is fine with single channel DDR2 5300). And with 1GB or more in the system, you really don't notice a missing 64MB.

Even with the onboard graphics, the Core Duo version is a really nicely outfitted machine for $799, once you factor in the onboard Bluetooth and WiFi, ass well as the compact form factor. If you tried building a dual-core SFF Windows system, you'd come really close to the $799 MSRP of the Mini just buying the parts.
 
Batmanuel, thanks for the info re the integrated graphics; that was my biggest worry. Do you have any thoughts on how it will deal with hd content (i.e. would running @ 1080p/1920x1200 be possible, assuming that the system ram was bumped up)?
 
That new ipod speaker is a joke! $349 for a single speaker that has no right to be called stereo. I design loudspeakers for a hobby and I could build something that would absolutey DESTROY that speaker for under $100. It doesn't even have a tweeter. How in the world?!?!?!
 
I'm very dissapointed, I was hoping for a new iPod. At very least they could have cramed a TV tuner in the dam thing so you could use it as a PVR. The front Row software looks cool, but I gotta say without TV is more of a novelty...
 
I wouldn't write that iPod Hi-Fi off so quickly before actually hearing it.

In his presentation today, Steve Jobs, who claims he is an audiophile who doesn't want to disclose how much he has spent on audio equipment, really likes the iPod Hi-Fi. (I'm not trying to suggest that it is hifi, but it may actually sound pretty good):

http://zdnet.com.com/1606-2-6044329.html

It's got a digital input so you could connect an Airport Express and stream everything wirelessly.
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
I'm very dissapointed, I was hoping for a new iPod. At very least they could have cramed a TV tuner in the dam thing so you could use it as a PVR. The front Row software looks cool, but I gotta say without TV is more of a novelty...

If you were Apple and were pushing $1.99 TV shows in your music store, would YOU put a TV tuner in your latest product? Nope 🙂 Stinks but that's business. My vote is toss a 3.5" hard drive in the Mini, add a TV tuner, and update Front Row to include a TiVo-style section. This Mini is the next best thing, since you can now stream recordings from another computer to it. Besides, it's nice to have the recording feature on another computer where you can sit down and edit the shows, burn them to DVD, back them up to another hard drive, and generally have more space for shows.
 
Originally posted by: mshan
I wouldn't write that iPod Hi-Fi off so quickly before actually hearing it.

In his presentation today, Steve Jobs, who claims he is an audiophile who doesn't want to disclose how much he has spent on audio equipment, really likes the iPod Hi-Fi. (I'm not trying to suggest that it is hifi, but it may actually sound pretty good):

http://zdnet.com.com/1606-2_2-6044210.html

It's got a digital input so you could connect an Airport Express and stream everything wirelessly.

Yeah...I dunno if it's worth $349, but it's a neat idea. I'd definately buy one for my parents if I had cash to burn. One in the kitchen for my mom and one in the shop for my dad, plus docks into their cars for driving. Besides, it's still over $100 cheaper than my idea for a Mac Mini-based jukebox.
 
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