New Lytro Camera! almost there....

[finbarqs]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/0...ource=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_2

~ 5mp, so you'll get decent 11x14 prints. 1" sensor, a 35-250mm equivalent range, meaning that effectively, it's actually a 13mm - 90mm f/2 lens.

Why is this camera important? I'm rocking a 5D Mark 2. Focus is ~ 60% accurate (I have to constantly adjust it in camera, and shooting a wedding, or a engagement requires fast prep)

This eliminates the worry of having perfect focus. Which is really all I care about in my photography

I don't want "acceptable focus" I want perfect focus!

 

[luv2liv]

nobody bought our $400 camera.
let's make a $1500 camera! brilliant.

 

[finbarqs]

$400 camera was completely a waste of time. ~2 MP, can't make any prints, prime lens, it was like a first effort. This one is much better, but a 1" sensor kind of hinders it a bit. I might of considered it if it were priced 700-800 range.

If they sold an APS-C sized sensor with interchangeable lenses (with an established system -- nikon or canon) and at least 8MP, I would've paid 2k for it. hell even 2.5k for it.

 

[iGas]

Yes it is much better at a whopping 4 megapixels that weight 2 lbs, and a brilliant slant up LCD screen that completely hampers viewing outdoor.

Lytro Unveils Its Second-Generation Camera, the Illum

 

[Throckmorton]

I don't understand this "angle of light" stuff

 

[The Stigenator]

I hardly use my original Lytro. Its more a gimmick than anything else. I should sell it probably. Wonder what it would go for used.

Edit; checked, about 140-160 for the 8gb..

 

[finbarqs]

good catch on the LCD. I thought it was articulating. But going through the pictures of the camera, I can see that it's only at that one specific angle.

This refocusing thing is quite amazing. I've shot several systems before, from a Phase One, to a Hasselblad, to a 4x5 cambo large format, Pentax 6x7 (all film), to a canon, nikon, olympus, panasonic DSLR's. currently I'm still on my 5d mark 2.

Focus ruins a good shot. It'll be great if I can have a 100% retention on all my images. I'm just sick of adjusting my lenses. The funny thing is, now shoots will go much faster now. No more "just in case" shots for me (if they make the next one the end all be all)

 

[blastingcap]

The LCD articulates. See http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/22/lytro-illum/ that specifically says this, and also the Verge article for more product shots. http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/22/5625264/lytro-changed-photography-meet-the-new-illum-camera

 

[IronWing]

I hardly use my original Lytro. Its more a gimmick than anything else. I should sell it probably. Wonder what it would go for used.

Edit; checked, about 140-160 for the 8gb..

How well does it work for stacked macros compared to manually shooting with a regular camera and stacking?

 

[Rakehellion]

Does this thing actually work? Seems like a gimmick that would take worse pictures than a regular camera, only it's for people who don't know how to focus.

 

[finbarqs]

Focus is one of the most important things doing portrait/people photography in a high speed environment. Well for me. I take 3 shots just in case one is out of focus. The funny thing is, sometimes, all 3 are out of focus. with my 5d mark 2, I select the closest focus point towards the eye ball, take a deep breath, try to nail the focus there, with minimal recomposition (Because we all know that focus recompose can turn an infocus object out of focus, especially shooting at wide apertures). And even then, it's about 50-60% success. Sure, we can adjust our lenses through the micro adjustments, but that's just a pain in the ass, and what if we're focusing at a different focal length? Then we have to readjust again.

 

[Pottuvoi]

I don't understand this "angle of light" stuff

Here is all the information you ever want.
http://www.tgeorgiev.net/

There is lot of interesting possibilities with multi-lens/camera arrays.
In future one should be able to get single shot HDR image with adjustable DoF and Motion Blur.
It's also quite easy to get 3D surface from lightfield images. (and even some surface properties.)

With multiples of such cameras or large arrays, one could do some very strange things.

 

[v-600]

I just bought one of the original ones as a present for my dad. He collects cameras (digital and film) as a hobby and there is nothing else like this on the market. The price had dropped, I think due to the upcoming one, to $200 (after import duty, shipping etc I think it was £154 - the original still is priced at £400 here).

Will let you know if its just a gimmick in 2-3 international shipping weeks.

 

[finbarqs]

yeah, the DOF and motion blur stuff is pretty cool. But the main feature is the perfect focusing. Just got back from an engagement, shot about 500 images. Skimming through them, approximately 50% have acceptable focus. Focus is always a worry of mine.... There was this one shot I spent probably way too long to shoot, especially when you're shooting in the sun, and your camera is having trouble acquiring focus.

 

[iGas]

yeah, the DOF and motion blur stuff is pretty cool. But the main feature is the perfect focusing. Just got back from an engagement, shot about 500 images. Skimming through them, approximately 50% have acceptable focus. Focus is always a worry of mine.... There was this one shot I spent probably way too long to shoot, especially when you're shooting in the sun, and your camera is having trouble acquiring focus.

Perhaps slow down and focus before you shoot, or get a matte/split screen and learn to manual focus such as the Eg-S or Ec-B focus screen.

My hit rate definitely went up after I replaced the standard Canon Eg-A to the Eg-S matte focus screen on my 5D mkII (due to poor eyes the hit rate was <75%, with the Eg-S screen hit rate is at >95%). Specially with macro shots which was next to impossible with the original Eg-A screen, and the Eg-S take the guess work out of manual focusing.

Both Eg-A and Ec-B screen will darken your view finder a little, and center spot metering will not work with the Ec-B.

[add]
If you shoot at F/5.6 or slower with medium telephoto to wide angle then DOF & focus shouldn't be too much of a problem, but if wide fast aperture/closeup/long telephoto is what you want then changing focusing screen will definitely help.

 

[finbarqs]

my problem is the constant front focusing, and rear focusing pisses me off so much. Sure, the clients won't really tell, but i can. Even on a tripod, focus confirm, no movement, it might be front focusing. I already sent it in to canon for "service" and whatever. But I almost have to do that with every lens I have! I have 2x 5D mark 2's. Funny, when I was shooting the D300, my hit rate was about >80%, until I used the 70-200 f/2.8 VR.

Anyways, having the trouble of focus being eliminate a big concern and worry of mine.

 

[iGas]

I haven't had any issue with the lenses that I have, but you might want to try AF microadjusment for each individual lens that you own.

 

[finbarqs]

AF micro-adjustments only work for a specific focal length w/ my 70-200 f/2.8 IS II, and it'll start front focusing and rear focusing again at different lengths. What a PIA. So something like this lytro I never have to worry

But too bad they don't have this in the canon or nikon format, and DSLR. It's like asking a foveon sensor in canon's body.

 

[iGas]

Very interesting. I'll test some of my lenses when I have more time.

 

[finbarqs]

One good thing is Sigma's USB dock with my 35 1.4 Art lens.