new jersey bans sex offenders from using the internet

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fskimospy

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Originally posted by: spittledip
You guys need to read the article. This law only applies to those who used the internet to assist with the crime. I don't think this applies to people peeing on a tree... Use of internet or anything else in life is a privilege. If you abuse it, you get it taken away. That is why drunk drivers lose their licenses. If this helps prevent just a few cases, then it is worth it. Freedom is not a thing to be abused. If it is abused, then there is a penalty.

You're right... they get put in jail. The argument against this is the same argument for all sorts of other sex crimes. Namely, that they are treated much differently then equally serious non sex related crimes because our culture is so juvenile in its views towards human sexuality.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Ozoned

Seriously though, back in the day before we depended on government to take care of every little detail of our lives, serious sexual offenders had a very very low life expectancy. As often as not, most didn't get a chance to see prison. Heh heh.

"Heh heh" about the illegal murder of people. The moral values of the right shine again.

Something wrong with the rule of law, and a combination of prison and treatment where it can help? No, a thug mentality, hiding behind 'conservative', is the reason for the post above.

The post is not a joke, because it reflects some actual views which lead to the thug mentality having some presence in our laws, hurting people.

Consider, for example, the real issue of prisoner rape, and what efforts are made to stop it.

Since when is the hatred and despisement of sex offenders a conservative thing? Geez you have a unique ability to make EVERYTHING partisan. Very amusing IMO ;)
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: spittledip
You guys need to read the article. This law only applies to those who used the internet to assist with the crime. I don't think this applies to people peeing on a tree... Use of internet or anything else in life is a privilege. If you abuse it, you get it taken away. That is why drunk drivers lose their licenses. If this helps prevent just a few cases, then it is worth it. Freedom is not a thing to be abused. If it is abused, then there is a penalty.

You're right... they get put in jail. The argument against this is the same argument for all sorts of other sex crimes. Namely, that they are treated much differently then equally serious non sex related crimes because our culture is so juvenile in its views towards human sexuality.

that, sir, is 100% correct.
 

spittledip

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: spittledip
You guys need to read the article. This law only applies to those who used the internet to assist with the crime. I don't think this applies to people peeing on a tree... Use of internet or anything else in life is a privilege. If you abuse it, you get it taken away. That is why drunk drivers lose their licenses. If this helps prevent just a few cases, then it is worth it. Freedom is not a thing to be abused. If it is abused, then there is a penalty.

You're right... they get put in jail. The argument against this is the same argument for all sorts of other sex crimes. Namely, that they are treated much differently then equally serious non sex related crimes because our culture is so juvenile in its views towards human sexuality.

I think you are minimizing the impact that rape or molestation or sexual predation has on the victims. I say this b/c it seems that this little intervention of limiting internet usage to help prevent more cases of rape seems unrealistic to those who disagree with this law. Not being allowed to use the internet is not that big of a deal and is a small price to pay for a crime. It isn't like they are getting castrated, and it isn't even like losing the right to drive (whcih happens to some people as i pointed out before). I don't understand why people would be against this law if it helped to prevent these crimes. Valuing poeple's freedom to use the internet over a child not getting raped seems like a perverted priority.