New Intel CPU, called Prescot?

[faye]

Hi, i heard that at the end of this year, there will be a new cpu from INTEL called(something like) Prescott?

is it true? any spec yet?

thanks

 

[sao123]

no answer deserved here...

read about prescott @
XBit Labs
The Enquirer

 

[Soulkeeper]

heh
it should be similar to the P4ee just on a .09u process
i'm not too sure but i've heard it will perform onpar or less than a P4ee, who knows
some sites have test samples but nda keeps them from really saying anything

it's just a wait and see thing
they might not hit shelvs till next year, and a lot can change between then and now or even overnight

 

[User1001]

It has improved instruction set, better hyper threading ect. So it will perform better.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: User1001
It has improved instruction set, better hyper threading ect. So it will perform better.

... we hope.

 

[User1001]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: User1001
It has improved instruction set, better hyper threading ect. So it will perform better.

... we hope.

alright fine alleged improvements. But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

 

[lifeguard1999]

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

 

[acidpad]

it DOES perform better, thats a fact. there will be a release by the end of this year, and another on a new form factor in Q1 04. There are alot of things that are going to be in prescott other than performance stuff too. look at IDE, there are some things dropped there that you should be able to infer. also, do some research, theres like 20M un-accounted transistors .... hmmmm yamhill anyone ? do some research, intel hasnt been sitting on their asses while amd is retaking the crown .

 

[Duvie]

According to some sneak peeks floating around the net it definitely does better per clock cycle....In synthetic benchmarks it sometimes comes up short to a equal speed northwood but that may be due to incompatable or misidentification of the processor and enabling its benefits...I think in the real world the 1mb cache shows some power (super pi 2m test) and the sse3 seems to shine in some rendering test (cinebench 2003)....

I think the cache will benefit obviously...the SSE3 only benefits if programs are optimized for it (we all remember the slow integration of sse2)...HT advancements??? I haven't seen any testing on this but I imagine it is better. Other instructions may be program specific in improvement. IN some test raw speed may still win out. Bandwidth showed some improvement but since I can't read chinese I don't know if maybe the fsb is greater than 800fsb...I just don't know...


I thikn the prescott just evens up to the athlon fx, but who kows how high the chip can ramp...

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

Maybe he was too young to remember the launch of the P4

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

Maybe he was too young to remember the launch of the P4

Or the 386... or the 486... or the Pentium Pro... or the Socket4 Pentium...

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

Maybe he was too young to remember the launch of the P4

that has now scaled to 3ghz and blown away its old counterpart. intelligent comment.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

Maybe he was too young to remember the launch of the P4

that has now scaled to 3ghz and blown away its old counterpart. intelligent comment.

You completely missed the point... the P4 was a joke when it was released. It's great now... but it was junk when it was first released.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

Maybe he was too young to remember the launch of the P4

that has now scaled to 3ghz and blown away its old counterpart. intelligent comment.

You completely missed the point... the P4 was a joke when it was released. It's great now... but it was junk when it was first released.

The pentium 4 wasnt 2 years late

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: sao123
read about prescott @
XBit Labs
The Enquirer

Jeez... Could you have chosen two more unreliable sites? Check out AnandTech. Anand has written a couple of articles about Prescott.


Faye, to answer your original question:

• Strained Silicon
• 1mb L2 cache
• .09µ Process
• 7 layers of low-K metal interconnects
• Updated Micro-architecture
• Improved HyperThreading
• Advanced Power Management
• Prescott New Instructions
• Scalable to the 4-5ghz range

That's pretty much the gist of it.

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: sao123
read about prescott @
XBit Labs
The Enquirer

Jeez... Could you have chosen two more unreliable sites? Check out AnandTech. Anand has written a couple of articles about Prescott.


Faye, to answer your original question:

• 1mb L2 cache
• .09µ Process
• 7 layers of low-K metal interconnects
• Updated Micro-architecture
• Improved HyperThreading
• Advanced Power Management
• Prescott New Instructions
• Scalable to the 4-5ghz range

That's pretty much the gist of it.

None of that fancy SOI or Strained Silicon stuff?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: sao123
read about prescott @
XBit Labs
The Enquirer

Jeez... Could you have chosen two more unreliable sites? Check out AnandTech. Anand has written a couple of articles about Prescott.


Faye, to answer your original question:

• 1mb L2 cache
• .09µ Process
• 7 layers of low-K metal interconnects
• Updated Micro-architecture
• Improved HyperThreading
• Advanced Power Management
• Prescott New Instructions
• Scalable to the 4-5ghz range

That's pretty much the gist of it.

None of that fancy SOI or Strained Silicon stuff?

Doh! I forgot to include Strained Silicon.

 

[Canterwood]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999

But I doubt Intel would release a new product that performs worse that their old one.

You are kidding me, right?

Maybe he was too young to remember the launch of the P4

Lol, yeah those early P4's were enough to drive me over to AMD
Only came back when the 800fsb parts were released.

 

[faye]

i wonder when it will drop aroun $200 price range.

but it is too early to talk about this.

Isn't this new cpu should have all the advantages of the pasts and put in some more new blood?

have u seen P4EE on the market yet? if the EE version still hasn't been released, how can the Prescott being released at the end of the year?

or am i missing something?

oh, what type of moboard and ream does it use?

haahaa, really want to see a 5.0Ghz compare to my 0.980Ghz cpu

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: sao123
read about prescott @
XBit Labs
The Enquirer

Jeez... Could you have chosen two more unreliable sites? Check out AnandTech. Anand has written a couple of articles about Prescott.


Faye, to answer your original question:

• 1mb L2 cache
• .09µ Process
• 7 layers of low-K metal interconnects
• Updated Micro-architecture
• Improved HyperThreading
• Advanced Power Management
• Prescott New Instructions
• Scalable to the 4-5ghz range

That's pretty much the gist of it.

None of that fancy SOI or Strained Silicon stuff?

Doh! I forgot to include Strained Silicon.

Gotcha, I wasn't trying to correct you or anything, I just wasn't even sure myself!

I know its a developing technology, and AMD has used it on the A64, just wasn't sure about Prescott.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: sao123
read about prescott @
XBit Labs
The Enquirer

Jeez... Could you have chosen two more unreliable sites? Check out AnandTech. Anand has written a couple of articles about Prescott.


Faye, to answer your original question:

• Strained Silicon
• 1mb L2 cache
• .09µ Process
• 7 layers of low-K metal interconnects
• Updated Micro-architecture
• Improved HyperThreading
• Advanced Power Management
• Prescott New Instructions
• Scalable to the 4-5ghz range

That's pretty much the gist of it.

Too bad Engineering Samples (such as the one Anand got) are running at 2.8 Ghz, showing that they're having some problems with the process at the moment. I can't wait for a mature Prescott, though. Eventually hitting 4-5 Ghz will be nice!

 

[MadRat]

It sounded like the early reports have only suggested the problems with Intel's 90nm processes is getting power cleanly to the whole processor, not necessarily that the 100W thermal disipation was a problem.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Too bad Engineering Samples (such as the one Anand got) are running at 2.8 Ghz, showing that they're having some problems with the process at the moment. I can't wait for a mature Prescott, though. Eventually hitting 4-5 Ghz will be nice!

ALL preliminary engineering samples are not full production speed... It's all part of the development process.

It would be nice if the very first samples that were manufactured could be full speed. But (as most things in life), it's a learning process that matures as each revision comes along. The first cpu's that actually hit the market are never the first steppings of the product.

(Seems to me like I was saying the same thing just a few months ago when the 800mhz Hammers were being "reviewed". )

 

[Soulkeeper]

the prescot looks good but i won't be able to afford it

 

[Jeff7181]

I know its a developing technology, and AMD has used it on the A64, just wasn't sure about Prescott.

AMD used SOI, not Strained Silicon.