New inclusive version of Guess Who created

[Torn Mind]

It may be a cisdemeanor to say this but if you remember the music and fashion from the mid to late 80s coming out of Europe it seemed to push the feminization of men. It was okay to act different, dress in pastel pants and shirts and have long hair. Girls like it and some boys too. You did not have to come out of the closet but you could stick your toe out and see who notices.

But these days we have to make unnecessary drama over everything including any sort of label. Lets redefine terms!

I'm not sure what you are saying about hair means anything or even accurate. Everyone in the 80s was donning long ass hair with curls including the US. Those rock band guys were certainly perceived as men. I don't think any one thought Bon Jovi was feminized. They might have been more pop than heavy metal, but they come off as guys.

 

[MrSquished]

You talking about religious folks?

Religious folks and people that buy Trump coins. A bunch of shitty cult members.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm not sure what you are saying about hair means anything or even accurate. Everyone in the 80s was donning long ass hair with curls including the US. Those rock band guys were certainly perceived as men. I don't think any one thought Bon Jovi was feminized. They might have been more pop than heavy metal, but they come off as guys.

 

[iRONic]

FFS… It was called ‘ANDROGYNY’ in the 80s.

 

[brianmanahan]

 

[WelshBloke]

*Looks at picture of self from late 80s*

*Backs out of thread*

😬

 

[FelixDeCat]

*Looks at picture of self from late 80s*

*Backs out of thread*

😬

Exactly. I was there too. We all let our hair down:

 

[FelixDeCat]

And it wasn't just men:

(loved these songs by the way)

 

[WelshBloke]

Exactly. I was there too. We all let our hair down:

I was more Bauhaus and the Cure! 80s goth!

 

[zinfamous]

But these days we have to make unnecessary drama over everything including any sort of label.

This part here, is correct. Just don't make drama over real things.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I'm not sure what you are saying about hair means anything or even accurate. Everyone in the 80s was donning long ass hair with curls including the US. Those rock band guys were certainly perceived as men. I don't think any one thought Bon Jovi was feminized. They might have been more pop than heavy metal, but they come off as guys.

Something Arnold Schwarzenegger said was similar about changes in the bodybuilding scene (I'm paraphrasing): guys became so obsessed with being huge that they lost sight of the ability to be sensual and erotic.

Men can be sexy. It's allowed. Whether you call it "androgyny" or "metrosexual" or whatever. Caring about your appearance isn't "gay."

 

[mikeymikec]

Why would trans people be any different than every other nationality, color, race, gender, sex, political affiliation, religion, age, or geographic location? Why do you think trans people to be so fragile and homerless?

Urban Dictionary: schrodinger’s douchebag

One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.

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[sandorski]

This part here, is correct. Just don't make drama over real things.

That's Communism.

 

[MrSquished]

It's good that the trash is taking itself out in the OT forum - squirrel and greenman just can't help themselves.

 

[nakedfrog]

You can make jokes about trans people, as long as you're actually funny. As has been well-noted, Babylon Bee is not funny, they've got people like RS and Greenie working there.

 

[FelixDeCat]

That's Communism.

I always knew Lennin battled for the other team. 😱