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Bryf50

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TheStu, isn't USB 3.0 native on the P67/H67 chipsets?

And runawayprisoner, how in the hell would USB 3.0 flop? It's clearly the logical upgrade to USB 2.0.
Nope but most manufacturers use third-party chips for USB 3.0 support.
 

deanx0r

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It'll be interesting to see what Apple is going to do with the Mac Mini for the next refresh. A quad-core sandy bridge would be a worth upgrade if they can cram it in there.
 

HaukSwe

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Damn, I'm tempted...

So if I want to put my own SSD in I'd need an adapter or..? It is a fairly scary operation it seems, removing the screen being my main issue. Dust getting in there etc etc would suck, removing logic board I can probably live with..

I just don't need a 256 gb SSD, 120 or so is fine and they make you pay extra for the SSD and the mechanical!? total bs.
 

Sid59

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i think i'll get one in a month or so. 21" base and do a 8/16 gig memory upgrade.
 

sportage

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I have the 27" previous version iMac and I really see no reason to upgrade to this new iMac. Im disappointed there are still only 4 USB ports. What I need are more onboard USB ports. A lot more USB ports. And it would have been nice to stick those additional USB ports on the side(s) of the case and not only on the back.
But... for anyone looking to move to a mac, THIS is a good choice. The previous iMac is also a good move.
 

runawayprisoner

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And runawayprisoner, how in the hell would USB 3.0 flop? It's clearly the logical upgrade to USB 2.0.

It exists at the same time as Thunderbolt/LightPeak. All indications point to Thunderbolt/Lightpeak being the superior solution in just about every way as it can be used for more than just data transmission, and its raw data transmission bandwidth is twice that of USB 3.0, with room to grow.

You are right that it's a logical upgrade to USB 2.0, but I feel Thunderbolt/LightPeak is a step above that upgrade.

Plus Thunderbolt/LightPeak is actually smaller physically than USB, so it does have a size advantage for future mobile devices.
 

TheStu

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I have the 27" previous version iMac and I really see no reason to upgrade to this new iMac. Im disappointed there are still only 4 USB ports. What I need are more onboard USB ports. A lot more USB ports. And it would have been nice to stick those additional USB ports on the side(s) of the case and not only on the back.
But... for anyone looking to move to a mac, THIS is a good choice. The previous iMac is also a good move.

What all do you have hooked up to your computer? On my desktop I have 3 USB devices, and am using 2 ports (my keyboard has 2 USB on it, so the mouse is hooked into that). I mean, I am thinking printer, keyboard (which on the USB one has ports or the wireless one is well, wireless), mouse (which can either hook into the keyboard or is also bluetooth), external drive I suppose... At least one port in the front or side for thumb drives would be nice.
 

ViRGE

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Btw, does anyone know if the new iMac can be used as a monitor for a MBP, PC or PS3?
I am not seeing any regular hdmi, DP or thunderbolt inputs.
Bad news kids: Target Display Mode only works with Thunderbolt sources. Or in other words, for the new iMacs they can only be used with the new MacBooks and any future devices that have DP over ThunderBolt; they won't work with older devices that are DisplayPort-only.
 

Gooberlx2

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And yet 21.5" iMac never had that option before right? Well, if they're gonna gimp the feature, at least they're providing it to the rest of the line. (which does no good for for older DP MBP users :\).

I certainly wouldn't be surprised to new 3rd party adapters cover the issue.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Anyone get the base 21"?

The base 27" seems like a good value since the 27" cinema display is 1000 bucks already, but i dont know if i need that much screen. The 21" seems so much less popular though.
 

QueBert

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Shit I'm coming into $2,500 extra next week I wasn't expecting. I could save it but this is so tempting UGH. That 27" would be pretty damn beastly with Bootcamp + Win 7 on it.
 

Zen0

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Shit I'm coming into $2,500 extra next week I wasn't expecting. I could save it but this is so tempting UGH. That 27" would be pretty damn beastly with Bootcamp + Win 7 on it.

Playing COD Black Ops on mine right now. Stays around 60FPS, max settings, 2560x1440 with 2x AA
 

randomlinh

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It exists at the same time as Thunderbolt/LightPeak. All indications point to Thunderbolt/Lightpeak being the superior solution in just about every way as it can be used for more than just data transmission, and its raw data transmission bandwidth is twice that of USB 3.0, with room to grow.

You are right that it's a logical upgrade to USB 2.0, but I feel Thunderbolt/LightPeak is a step above that upgrade.

Plus Thunderbolt/LightPeak is actually smaller physically than USB, so it does have a size advantage for future mobile devices.
FW is superior to USB IMO, but we know where that went ;)

The real problem is adoption. Doesn't matter what the specs are, but if there are a flood of USB3 devices, people will buy it because it's the faster version of USB2.

It might make a dent if Intel can push out outside of Apple as well.
 

endlessmike133

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Thunderbolt just isn't gonna touch USB 3.0.

USB 3.0 could just be snuck into devices without consumers even knowing about it due to the backwards-compatibility with USB 2.0.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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So I have this old iMac G5 that my parents have been using for awhile now. Is this an upgrade I should be considering?
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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Hell yes.

I got rid of my iMac G5 almost five years ago because it was too slow for a main machine.

I've been trying to get my parents to switch over but they've been saying it's fine. I'm assuming the Sandy Bridge vs the G5 is also going to be extremely power efficient (for the Sandy Bridge).
 

Eug

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I guess the G5 iMac is OK for basic email and stuff, as even a G4 is OK for that.

However, when it comes to say just viewing Flash video it's problematic. This becomes an issue with surfing when there is some flash content on the page that plays automatically. Click2Flash solves that issue, but isn't ideal.

But hey, if they don't mind it, then let them be I suppose. Save a few bux.