New high iso shots from 7Dii

[waterjug]

Some shots from Photokina

1) Jpegs using in-camera sharpening
2) downsized to about 2MP
3) Was this guy drunk when he shot these?


But yeah, I mean it looks better noise-wise than I was expecting

 

[Imp]

I think we should start consolidating the 7Dii stuff into one thread... This is number 3 in the past few days.

A few of those shots look out of focus -- the 6400 looks better than the 3200.

 

[magomago]

what is the purpose of these iso1600 shots? do we really care about iso 1600 in broad daylight with flashes?

how about repeating these shots under low light where it makes sense to use ISO greater than and exceeding iso1600?

 

[CuriousMike]

mago - did you not watch the video? They're in the convention hall which has crappy lighting... so these tests are legit.

I found the high ISO performance ( after downloading the higher res versions ) to be pretty good.

 

[CuriousMike]

I'd like to see them at 1:1 - my D7100 at ISO 6400 looks good at web, but if you view it 1:1 you can see the noise.

i.e,

which, center-ish crop at 100% looks like

 

[iGas]

Is that pic with or with out noise reduction?
And, does the Nikon D7100 have in camera noise reduction set as default for JPG?

 

[CuriousMike]

Is that pic with or with out noise reduction?
And, does the Nikon D7100 have in camera noise reduction set as default for JPG?

That is with "NORMAL" ( off, low, normal, high ) noise reduction applied which is only applied at ISO 800 and beyond... that is a RAW image exported to JPG from LR with minimal settings applied ( contrast and highlights brought down a bit. )

I believe I read that Nikon automatically applies NR to JPGs regardless of your setting under some circumstance ( perhaps the same ISO 800 thresh hold as above.)

I don't tend to use NR globally in Lightroom because it tends to look smeary to me.

 

[AkumaX]

That is with "NORMAL" ( off, low, normal, high ) noise reduction applied which is only applied at ISO 800 and beyond... that is a RAW image exported to JPG from LR with minimal settings applied ( contrast and highlights brought down a bit. )

I believe I read that Nikon automatically applies NR to JPGs regardless of your setting under some circumstance ( perhaps the same ISO 800 thresh hold as above.)

I don't tend to use NR globally in Lightroom because it tends to look smeary to me.

did you do any NR in LR? i think RAW's don't have any NR. if you went straight from RAW -> LR -> JPG, then is there any NR done?

 

[CuriousMike]

i think RAW's don't have any NR.

Other than "normal" in camera, I didn't add any to LR.

But you beg the question - does the NR setting apply to RAW + JPG? I thought it did.

I think looking at the photo at screen resolution, it looks useable... it's only when viewing the 24megapixels at 1:1 do you really really see the graininess.

Who else has a recent DX body that has some ISO 6400 examples to compare to?

 

[AkumaX]

Other than "normal" in camera, I didn't add any to LR.

But you beg the question - does the NR setting apply to RAW + JPG? I thought it did.

I think looking at the photo at screen resolution, it looks useable... it's only when viewing the 24megapixels at 1:1 do you really really see the graininess.

Who else has a recent DX body that has some ISO 6400 examples to compare to?

wait you did RAW+JPG? it should have produced 2 files (1 RAW and 1 JPG), and i think the NR only applied to the JPG. I know that for Canon, there is no NR when you do RAW.

 

[blastingcap]

I think Nikon 1 has baked in noise reduction at ISO 800+ and I know that Fuji definitely bakes in noise reduction at all ISOs.

But those are exceptions rather than the rule.

AFAIK, for a D7100 RAW means RAW; if you set it to RAW + JPG it applies NR just to the JPEG.

 

[Kippa]

I'd like to see them at 1:1 - my D7100 at ISO 6400 looks good at web, but if you view it 1:1 you can see the noise.

If you go back to the sample photographs and right click and save as, it will save the image at full 20 megapixel size, even though the actual image doesn't appear full size on his webpage. Looking at it at 100% the image quality at iso 6400 is very good indeed.

 

[Syborg1211]

Other than "normal" in camera, I didn't add any to LR.

But you beg the question - does the NR setting apply to RAW + JPG? I thought it did.

I think looking at the photo at screen resolution, it looks useable... it's only when viewing the 24megapixels at 1:1 do you really really see the graininess.

Who else has a recent DX body that has some ISO 6400 examples to compare to?

When you import photos into lightroom, it automatically detects raw+jpeg and only uses the raw files for edits. This means no NR applied to your photos exported from lightroom unless you tell it to.

 

[CuriousMike]

If you go back to the sample photographs and right click and save as, it will save the image at full 20 megapixel size, even though the actual image doesn't appear full size on his webpage. Looking at it at 100% the image quality at iso 6400 is very good indeed.

It saves 2megapixel version of the images - larger than the web page, but definitely not 20megapixels.


I save RAW+JPG; the image I posted was RAW, but I had to export as JPG ( can't post RAW files in this forum) [edit: Ergo, it had no NR applied].

 

[waterjug]

The longer this goes without any RAWs circulating the more suspicious I am.

 

[CuriousMike]

The longer this goes without any RAWs circulating the more suspicious I am.

I want to see the 100% crops.... if they hold up with what we are seeing, it will be remarkable -- game changing even.

 

[Throckmorton]

Shot in JPEG and downsized to 2 megapixel... What's the point?