new hd/old system...wont boot

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I put a dell pull, maxtor 40 gb, in my new system. Everything turns on fine, get no errror beeps. I know i will have to install xp home fresh using the dell CD, but i cant get that far yet. couple of things; I believe maxtors are ata 133, and im using ata 100 cable, does this matter? The maxtor is sitting on the 2ndary ide channel by its self set neither to mastor or slave. And for the life of me i cant enter into the bios.
 

redhatlinux

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The cable is the same for ATA 66/100/133. Its a 40-pin, 80 conductor cable. Try setting the drive to Cable Select, seen a few drives that like cable select. Also, do the obvious again, make sure that the power connector is seated good, try a different one if your PS has spares. Make sure that pin1 (red stripe) is connected to pin 1 on the drive.
 

bacillus

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I know i will have to install xp home fresh using the dell CD,
if your new system doesn't have a dell bios string ie it's not a dell board, then your dell copy of xp won't install
 
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Originally posted by: bacillus
I know i will have to install xp home fresh using the dell CD,
if your new system doesn't have a dell bios string ie it's not a dell board, then your dell copy of xp won't install

ah fvck! ya, its an intel board, infact the only thing in the system from the dell is the HD. Looks like ill have to install xp pro fresh.
 
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ok, i insert a brand new copy of xp pro and get 0 response from the computer, checked power connections, etc.

edit: i fvcked my video card over sometime between yesterday and today. A swapage of cards proved to solve the problem.
 

lucky9

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the bios string shouldn't make a difference. unplug the hd and boot into the bios, set the sequence of boot devices to boot from the cd, if it does, power down and reconnect the hd and make sure it's set to master wherever it's at. i'd use the primary just because i'm anal about it. if this doesn't work goto device manager and delete the ide bus controller and reboot (you do have a working hd with os available? if not don't bother with the ide controller), if the install from the cd doesn't find the hd, reboot with a floppy boot disk and format the hd (unplug all other hds on the system first so there's nothing else to find!) then reboot with the cd. install to the hd. make sure that the bios has a current flash before any of this! there can be issues with older bios's. if the above aren't successfull rma the disk.
 

TurkeyHunter

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I recently got a Maxtor Utra 80 Gig - and when installing with the supplied cable - I experienced your symptoms. Tried cable select, setting as the master, the slave etc. I happened to have an old spare cable that I tried after much hair pulling and that did the trick.

The new Maxtor cable would not work with any of my devices (existing hard drive or cdr/rw's) - so I am figuring I got a bad cable. Try a different cable if ya have one laying around - worked for me - maybe Maxtor sent out a bad batch of cables.
 

StraightPipe

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Originally posted by: TurkeyHunter
I recently got a Maxtor Utra 80 Gig - and when installing with the supplied cable - I experienced your symptoms. Tried cable select, setting as the master, the slave etc. I happened to have an old spare cable that I tried after much hair pulling and that did the trick.

The new Maxtor cable would not work with any of my devices (existing hard drive or cdr/rw's) - so I am figuring I got a bad cable. Try a different cable if ya have one laying around - worked for me - maybe Maxtor sent out a bad batch of cables.

I'd send the cables back to maxtor and get a RMA (if they are sending out bad cables they need to knwo)
 
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Originally posted by: lucky9
the bios string shouldn't make a difference. unplug the hd and boot into the bios, set the sequence of boot devices to boot from the cd, if it does, power down and reconnect the hd and make sure it's set to master wherever it's at. i'd use the primary just because i'm anal about it. if this doesn't work goto device manager and delete the ide bus controller and reboot (you do have a working hd with os available? if not don't bother with the ide controller), if the install from the cd doesn't find the hd, reboot with a floppy boot disk and format the hd (unplug all other hds on the system first so there's nothing else to find!) then reboot with the cd. install to the hd. make sure that the bios has a current flash before any of this! there can be issues with older bios's. if the above aren't successfull rma the disk.

i can get to the bios, and a hd with win loaded boots, i just shorted my video card, so i got no signal with my monitor, so i thought it wasnt booting :)