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Kaido

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Originally posted by: mugs
Check this out:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

You don't have to build it yourself, he sells them.

He has sample movies on the site.

This plus an anti-shake software filter works pretty well. I have one of those (I got the pre-made kind) and I store it in a travel shaving bag. Pretty much it just takes some practice of learning how to shuffle your feet and bend your knees while walking to get a fairly smooth shot. Watch a bunch of Steadicam stuff on Youtube to see what consitutes the "Steadicam Look" and then you can attempt to emulate it with the homemade version. It won't be perfect, but it will be like 90% there. But then again it's $14 and not $3300 like a real one! Combine your shots with some anti-shake software and you're gold! Final Cut Pro has one called "SmoothCam" and the new iMovie 09 has it as well. You can get some pretty neat shots with this combo!

I've learned that the difference between DIY camera stuff and Hollywood-grade camera stuff is only about 10%. You can get MOST of what you want by doing it yourself, but for perfection, you need professional tools. A real Steadicam floats or "flies" and is extremely smooth (combined with lots and lots of practicing and rig tweaking). That extra 10% is for smoothness via the equipment (and technique, of course) - getting those small details is mainly what the difference is, and it costs a lot to get that! It's just like computers - you can buy the latest chip for $900, or you can buy the last-gen chip which is 90% as fast for $150. 10% difference but a big price jump to go that extra mile.

btw get iMovie 09. That SmoothCam filter is worth the price of admission by itself!
 

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Update 3/15/09

Well, I was given a surprise 30th birthday party by my wife yesterday and one of the presents was a HF10. I was saving up money to buy the HFS-100 when it comes out next month but hey, I got this one as a gift and now have $700 to spend on other things.

Kaido - I was wondering if you would be able to help me out in buying some of the accessories. I have $360 in Best Buy gift cards so I would prefer to buy everything from there even if it does cost more then say from a place like amazon. (I live in NY so I would be charged tax anyways at B&H)

Also, I have a citibank rewards account with about 27,000 points or so. I found the following 3 accessories for the HF10 and was wondering if they would be suitable. I would prefer to use the points before the gift cards since they do expire and they are basically free.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b...ord=hf10&customDetail="><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&searchIndex=&browseNodeId=-1&itemId=B0012IJYZ6&parent=false&supplierCategoryId=-1&path=-1&fqn=&categoryName=&keyword=hf10&customDetail=">https://rewards.thankyou.........&customDetail=</a></a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b...ord=hf10&customDetail="><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&searchIndex=&browseNodeId=-1&itemId=B00009V4G7&parent=false&supplierCategoryId=-1&path=-1&fqn=&categoryName=&keyword=hf10&customDetail=">https://rewards.thankyou.........&customDetail=</a></a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b...ord=hf10&customDetail="><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&searchIndex=&browseNodeId=-1&itemId=B0000990Y3&parent=false&supplierCategoryId=-1&path=-1&categoryName=&fqn=&keyword=hf10&customDetail=">https://rewards.thankyou.........&customDetail=</a></a>

Edit: You can just go to thankyou.com (citibank reward site) and search for anything. I just looked up gorillapod and there were a bunch of items that came up. Kaido, I guess if you are not busy and want to help - could you search for a couple accessories that add up to 27,000 points that I can get from there?

Edit2: I got iLife 09 but haven't installed it yet. Is there anything special I need since this is a HD camera (iLife HD?) or does 09 take care of everything?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Update 3/15/09

Well, I was given a surprise 30th birthday party by my wife yesterday and one of the presents was a HF10. I was saving up money to buy the HFS-100 when it comes out next month but hey, I got this one as a gift and now have $700 to spend on other things.

HF10 is a fabulous camera, my local buddy has one and it takes really good footage. As far as your reward points go, that's a tricky one. First, don't get the lens protectors. Canon charges about $60 for them and you can get a UV filter for about $4 anywhere (or a full kit for about $26). Most people only use a UV filter their entire lives (UV filter = lens protector, ABSOLUTELY get this, it's only about $4). Here's the UV filter:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/...V_Protector_Glass.html

If you wanna go nuts, spend $26 and get the full kit, which adds a warming filter (pretty useless since you can do this in editing in like 1 second - literally - in iMovie) and a polarizing filter, which is pretty cool because it cuts through glare (on glass, like a car windshield, and like on water - it's like sunglasses for your camera):

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/...Essentials_Filter.html

The BP-819 battery goes for about $109 online, so that's a pretty good deal, but you can get a better deal on eBay. You can get a knockoff BP-819 from eBay, complete with a car charger and a wall charger, for around $35 shipped.

The Canon telephoto lens also goes for around $109 online, so that'd probably be worth getting just to have something to play with. Since you still have 10,000 points left over, you can either get the filter kit, or just spend $4 to get a UV lens and save those points for later.

My basic Camera Kit recomendation:
1. Camera
2. 37mm UV Filter ($4)
3. Microfiber cleaning cloth (or "lens paper", to clean off the UV filter with)
4. Spare batteries (I like the $35 eBay models because they include wall/car chargers)
5. Memory cards (at least two 8GB Class 6, these are about $17 each; Class 6 = fast cards)
6. Card Reader (they make small USB stick-stick models for SD cards which are very portable, make sure it supports SDHC)
7. Padded camera bag (anything you like, as long as it's soft and padded inside to protect the camera)
8. Some kind of tripod for stabilization (cheap plastic tripod, fluid-head tripod, gorillapod, bean bag tripod, etc.)

The best thing to do is build a basic, usuable kit to start off with, and then build from there if you so desire. I've found if you don't do this first, it tends to never happen and then using the camera is always a bit of a pain because you don't have the right tools available. Getting a base kit right off the bat ensures that even if you never upgrade anything again, at least you have everything you need to make it work and use it! The camera and UV filter (aka lens protector) are the first two things to pickup, followed by a couple memory cards and a couple batteries (this always gives you something to swap with). A nice padded bag to carry everything in, a portable card reader in case you're not at home, and something to stabilize the camera with. I always recommend the Gorillapod to start out with because it's small and it's flexible, so you can use it either as a mini-tripod or wrap it around a crib, a railing, a fence, etc.

For iLife 09, I would recommend getting VoltaicHD for Mac, a video file converter utility. It's $35 and will convert the AVCHD M2TS files from your memory cards to the format of your choice. AVCHD uses a lot of resources and is hard to edit even on an 8-core machine, so I recommend simply converting the files over to something easier to edit (note - try editing the files directly in iMovie 09, I haven't worked with AVCHD in the new version yet, so see if it's usuable on your computer). Here's the link:

http://www.shedworx.com/voltaichd

That's pretty much it - get your basic camera kit, then get a workflow down for shooting & editing movies. Good lighting is key, so make sure you either shoot outdoors during the day or turn on the lights if you're inside. Cameras are just image sensors at the core, so if there's not enough light, they're not going to give a very good picture. Stabilization is another big key - use a tripod as much as you can. iMovie HD '09 includes a stabilization filter to reduce shaky footage if you need to record by hand, though. For more professional videos, try to avoid zooming (most Hollywood movie shots don't zoom in or out). That's pretty much it to get started!
 

TangoJuliet

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Kaido

Thanks so much for all of that!

Like I had mentioned eariler I have $360 in BBY gift cards so I would prefer to use that before I use the cash I received. However, I just looked up the prices on SDHC Class 6 8GB cards and they are $80 at BBY. Newegg has em for around $18-20. What a ripoff!

Is there any reason why I couldn't get a higher capacity memory card? Are 8GBs the sweet spot? Do the 16-32GBs transfer at a slower speed or something? Or is it just based on the price? The egg has a 16GB for around $35 or so.

As far as using the points - where you able to look up gorillapod on there? If so, which one would you recommend getting? There were around 10 different types/colors, etc.

I think I am going to stick with the UV filter rather then the kit. For $4 you can't go wrong and in the future if I need the extra stuff then I'll get it then.

iMovie

Let me see if I understand this correctly, importing and editing the raw AVCHD files is very CPU intensive so that software that you recommended will convert it into something more managable and then from there I can import it into iMovie 09?

You also said just try importing the AVCHD file right into '09 and see how long it takes. And thats because you haven't used '09 yet - is all of that correct?

Edit

Here are the 'egg SD cards I was looking at

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820178192

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820208293

Also, I just looked up BBY again and they really didn't have much of a selection of memory cards. The $80 card is the SanDisk Extreme III 8GB which is the same price at the 'egg. Any real world difference between that card and either of the 2 that I linked above?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Kaido

Thanks so much for all of that!

Like I had mentioned eariler I have $360 in BBY gift cards so I would prefer to use that before I use the cash I received. However, I just looked up the prices on SDHC Class 6 8GB cards and they are $80 at BBY. Newegg has em for around $18-20. What a ripoff!

Is there any reason why I couldn't get a higher capacity memory card? Are 8GBs the sweet spot? Do the 16-32GBs transfer at a slower speed or something? Or is it just based on the price? The egg has a 16GB for around $35 or so.

No, not at all - you can go up to 32gb SDHC cards in the HF10 if you want. The 16gb prices have been dropping - $35 is an amazing price for 16gb of flash. My recommendation is to get at least 2 cards, so if two 8gb cards fit your budget better, then go with that - that way if one breaks or your lose one or becomes corrupted or whatever, you have something to fall back on. Same concept of having a cheap spare battery - at least you have a spare when you really need it! :)

Either of the Newegg cards you linked will work, just make sure it is a Class 6 card (= fast, for video recording). See, it's kind of a tossup with your gift card...two 8gb cards from BB is $160 of gift card money, but only $36 of your own real cash...and that $300+ gift card can get you a lot of other neat goodies at Best Buy like speakers or a camera or TV stuff or games. Same with the points...you can spend $60 in "points" for the UV filter kit or just spend $4 of real money and then use the points for something else.

As far as using the points - where you able to look up gorillapod on there? If so, which one would you recommend getting? There were around 10 different types/colors, etc.

They basically make 5 sizes - portable (cell phone/GPS/handheld game), point-and-shoot, SLR, SLR-Zoom, and the larger Focus. I'd recommend getting either the SLR or the SLR-Zoom to hold the weight of the HF10:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&searchIndex=&browseNodeId=-1&itemId=B000HAVVFG&parent=false&supplierCategoryId=-1&path=-1&fqn=&categoryName=&keyword=gorillapod&customDetail=">https://rewards.thankyou.co......apod&customDetail=</a>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&searchIndex=&browseNodeId=-1&itemId=B000KFRSG4&parent=false&supplierCategoryId=-1&path=-1&fqn=&categoryName=&keyword=gorillapod&customDetail=">https://rewards.thankyou.co......apod&customDetail=</a>

iMovie

Let me see if I understand this correctly, importing and editing the raw AVCHD files is very CPU intensive so that software that you recommended will convert it into something more managable and then from there I can import it into iMovie 09?

You also said just try importing the AVCHD file right into '09 and see how long it takes. And thats because you haven't used '09 yet - is all of that correct?

Yup. Pretty much everyone I know with an AVCHD camcorder either uses VoltaicHD or else uses their video editing software to do the conversion first. But again, test it first and see how it fares before plunking down the $35 for the Voltaic utility.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Anyone know if the video file captured by the Canon HF10 compatible with the PS3?

I did a quick search and a couple people at AVS Forums said they popped their HF10's SD card into their PS3 and it played the files.
 

TangoJuliet

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Kaido

Here is my current plan of action. Let me know what you think.

I am going to get the larger battery BP-819 1780mAh with my reward points.

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I will buy these 2 memory cards from the 'egg. (1) 16GB and (1) 8GB. The 16GB comes with a USB memory card reader so that will take care of that.

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The UV filter and micro fiber cloth will be purchased from B&H.

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Then I will use my BBY gift card to get a camera bag.

Now, here are the questions. Do I go with the higher capacity battery? From the reviews it says it lasts as long as a 16GB memory card but it sticks out the back since its larger then the regular battery. Should I just get another regular size battery and swap em in and out when necessary?

Should I stick with just (2) same sized SD cards or do you think mixing and matching the 16&8 is a good idea? If you say that (2) 8GBs will do the trick then what about this combo?

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What do you think about a battery charger?

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Edit: If you still think that just buying a battery off ebay is the best way to go (and save the points) then which one would you recommend getting?


 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Kaido

Here is my current plan of action. Let me know what you think.

Looks good! The 16gb card with the Card Reader for $40 is a great deal. You may end up not ever using the 8gb card, but for $17 just think of as insurance "just in a case". UV & microfiber are good. I recommend picking up a Hefty or Ziploc sandwich bag from the grocery store to store the microfiber cloth in, it keeps it nice and clean (get the kind with the plastic zipper on top, not the kind with the lines you have to press, those never work right).

As far as batteries go, the higher-capacity batteries weigh more and stick out from the camera. Considering the camera is the size of a soda can, I don't really think that's a big deal haha. Instead of getting that Canon battery charger, just get a pair of eBay batteries. There are a couple of drawbacks - for most of them, you can't charge them with the original Canon charger because they don't have a special chip in them. This also means that for some of them, you won't get an onscreen battery life indicator, but the battery itself usually has some type of charge meter. Here's a kit for $35 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BP-819...1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

You get a 3100mAh battery, a car charger, and an A/C charger. Pretty nice deal for $35. I have a couple of these and keep one charger set in a ziploc bag for traveling and then the other in my car in the glove compartment in a ziploc bag (the bags keep them organized instead of just shoving wires in the compartment).

If you do go with the Canon-brand batteries, then definitely pick up a spare charger if the camera only comes with an on-camera charger. I like to be able to charge one battery while using the other. This is real handy on vacations too.
 

TangoJuliet

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Kaido

Here is my current plan of action. Let me know what you think.

Looks good! The 16gb card with the Card Reader for $40 is a great deal. You may end up not ever using the 8gb card, but for $17 just think of as insurance "just in a case". UV & microfiber are good. I recommend picking up a Hefty or Ziploc sandwich bag from the grocery store to store the microfiber cloth in, it keeps it nice and clean (get the kind with the plastic zipper on top, not the kind with the lines you have to press, those never work right).

As far as batteries go, the higher-capacity batteries weigh more and stick out from the camera. Considering the camera is the size of a soda can, I don't really think that's a big deal haha. Instead of getting that Canon battery charger, just get a pair of eBay batteries. There are a couple of drawbacks - for most of them, you can't charge them with the original Canon charger because they don't have a special chip in them. This also means that for some of them, you won't get an onscreen battery life indicator, but the battery itself usually has some type of charge meter. Here's a kit for $35 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BP-819...1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

You get a 3100mAh battery, a car charger, and an A/C charger. Pretty nice deal for $35. I have a couple of these and keep one charger set in a ziploc bag for traveling and then the other in my car in the glove compartment in a ziploc bag (the bags keep them organized instead of just shoving wires in the compartment).

If you do go with the Canon-brand batteries, then definitely pick up a spare charger if the camera only comes with an on-camera charger. I like to be able to charge one battery while using the other. This is real handy on vacations too.

Thanks K-man!

When I was looking at the memory I was thinking I'd like to match the internal 16GB with another 16GB card just to keep it uniform. Thats basically 4 hours of recording on the highest settings. I didn't think it would be necessary to get another 16GB because I'd probably never use it but incase the 16GB does break, gets lost or I run out of memory 8GB should be sufficient. Plus, I liked the fact that it came with a USB reader which I can plug into my iMac's USB keyboard really quick.

Now, one thing I am worried about with the ebay battery is this. The camera does not come with an external charger (only can be charged while camera is plugged into the wall). So say I'm recording with the original battery, its battery is drained and I put the ebay battery in - there is no way I can charge the original (unless I bought the wall charger).

I guess I could start with the ebay battery and then go with the original so I can charge the ebay one while the original is being used. Can I charge the original battery in the ebay wall charger?

Edit: Oh, and what kind of camera bag would you recommend? I think Canon has a couple listed on their site and I saw some on Amazon that looked ok. None on best buy's website interested me.
 

Kaido

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I don't know if the eBay charger would charge an HF10 Canon-brand battery or not. For the price of the Canon charger though, you can get 2 sets of eBay batteries...

I think this is the bag I have:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsonit...&qid=1237227175&sr=1-8

Plenty of room for everything and nice and padded on the inside :)
 

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Anyone know if the video file captured by the Canon HF10 compatible with the PS3?

I did a quick search and a couple people at AVS Forums said they popped their HF10's SD card into their PS3 and it played the files.

Perfect. Thanks Kaido! I'm looking to get the HF S100 soon and hopefully that uses the same video format (codec) that the HF10 uses. I just want to be able to shoot and then pop the card in my PS3 to view my video.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Anyone know if the video file captured by the Canon HF10 compatible with the PS3?

I did a quick search and a couple people at AVS Forums said they popped their HF10's SD card into their PS3 and it played the files.

Perfect. Thanks Kaido! I'm looking to get the HF S100 soon and hopefully that uses the same video format (codec) that the HF10 uses. I just want to be able to shoot and then pop the card in my PS3 to view my video.

It does, it uses AVCHD, but it's full-spec (24 MB/s) plus has a huge freakin' sensor (8.59mp). I'll be jealous ;)
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Anyone know if the video file captured by the Canon HF10 compatible with the PS3?

I did a quick search and a couple people at AVS Forums said they popped their HF10's SD card into their PS3 and it played the files.

Perfect. Thanks Kaido! I'm looking to get the HF S100 soon and hopefully that uses the same video format (codec) that the HF10 uses. I just want to be able to shoot and then pop the card in my PS3 to view my video.

It does, it uses AVCHD, but it's full-spec (24 MB/s) plus has a huge freakin' sensor (8.59mp). I'll be jealous ;)

Well the reason for my concern is, I have a little Canon SD990IS P&S camera, and the video footage is apparently not compatible with my PS3. :( I just hope I don't have the same issue with the new Canon camcorder. :|
 

TangoJuliet

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Alrighty. I went ahead and got:

Samsonite 708BK Bag (amazon) $19.95
Transcend 16G Class 6 SDHC w/ USB reader (newegg) $38.49
Transcend 8GB Class 6 SDHC (newegg) $17.99
Pearstone Microfiber Cloth (B&H) $6.95
Tiffen 37mm UV Protector Glass filter (B&H) $3.95
Canon CG-800 Wall Charger (citibank) 9,000 points (free)
Joby GP3 Gorillapod SLR-Zoom Flexible Tripod (citibank) 7,500 points (free)
Canon BP-809B Battery (amazon) $50

I opted not to go with the battery kit from ebay because the original battery would not charge in the unit that came with it. I went ahead and got the wall charger because it charges the battery a lot quicker when charging from the camera. Plus, I like having all of the battery life remaining info on the camera itself rather then on the battery. I highly doubt I will need to charge it in the car so I just decided to go with that combo rather then buying a generic battery.

Anything else that you would recommend?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Anything else that you would recommend?

That pretty much covers it :thumbsup:

If you ever want to go with a separate microphone, the Rode VideoMic is pretty good (about $150). Granted it's about 3x as big as the camera, but it's a fun upgrade to add to your wishlist :)
 

TangoJuliet

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Anything else that you would recommend?

That pretty much covers it :thumbsup:

If you ever want to go with a separate microphone, the Rode VideoMic is pretty good (about $150). Granted it's about 3x as big as the camera, but it's a fun upgrade to add to your wishlist :)

sweet, thanks.

I havent imported anything into imovie yet just been playing around with the camera plus I wanted to wait until I got all of the accessories before I took the camera out and about.

Now, that I have everything.....I see the file structure is very strange. Its not like a single video file but broken into several folders/files. How do I go about importing that into imovie?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Anything else that you would recommend?

That pretty much covers it :thumbsup:

If you ever want to go with a separate microphone, the Rode VideoMic is pretty good (about $150). Granted it's about 3x as big as the camera, but it's a fun upgrade to add to your wishlist :)

sweet, thanks.

I havent imported anything into imovie yet just been playing around with the camera plus I wanted to wait until I got all of the accessories before I took the camera out and about.

Now, that I have everything.....I see the file structure is very strange. Its not like a single video file but broken into several folders/files. How do I go about importing that into imovie?

I think you just import from the card in iMovie 09. The AVCHD stuff is mixed in with the file structure on the card, so I don't think it will import if you just copy the files to the desktop from within the file structure. You either need to make an image/folder of the entire card, or import with a program.

However, I know that VoltaicHD can read files pulled from a card structure, because we did it with my friend's HF10 when we were testing his footage in FCP6 - Voltaic has the tools to read it off-card.

 

TangoJuliet

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Anything else that you would recommend?

That pretty much covers it :thumbsup:

If you ever want to go with a separate microphone, the Rode VideoMic is pretty good (about $150). Granted it's about 3x as big as the camera, but it's a fun upgrade to add to your wishlist :)

sweet, thanks.

I havent imported anything into imovie yet just been playing around with the camera plus I wanted to wait until I got all of the accessories before I took the camera out and about.

Now, that I have everything.....I see the file structure is very strange. Its not like a single video file but broken into several folders/files. How do I go about importing that into imovie?

I think you just import from the card in iMovie 09. The AVCHD stuff is mixed in with the file structure on the card, so I don't think it will import if you just copy the files to the desktop from within the file structure. You either need to make an image/folder of the entire card, or import with a program.

However, I know that VoltaicHD can read files pulled from a card structure, because we did it with my friend's HF10 when we were testing his footage in FCP6 - Voltaic has the tools to read it off-card.

I see. Is there a player out there that can play the files directly from the card itself - say a PS3, X360, tivo, etc etc?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
Anything else that you would recommend?

That pretty much covers it :thumbsup:

If you ever want to go with a separate microphone, the Rode VideoMic is pretty good (about $150). Granted it's about 3x as big as the camera, but it's a fun upgrade to add to your wishlist :)

sweet, thanks.

I havent imported anything into imovie yet just been playing around with the camera plus I wanted to wait until I got all of the accessories before I took the camera out and about.

Now, that I have everything.....I see the file structure is very strange. Its not like a single video file but broken into several folders/files. How do I go about importing that into imovie?

I think you just import from the card in iMovie 09. The AVCHD stuff is mixed in with the file structure on the card, so I don't think it will import if you just copy the files to the desktop from within the file structure. You either need to make an image/folder of the entire card, or import with a program.

However, I know that VoltaicHD can read files pulled from a card structure, because we did it with my friend's HF10 when we were testing his footage in FCP6 - Voltaic has the tools to read it off-card.

I see. Is there a player out there that can play the files directly from the card itself - say a PS3, X360, tivo, etc etc?

I'm pretty sure the PS3 can play them directly, I'm not sure about the others. My camcorder is Firewire, so I have to convert everything anyway :p