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New F@H SMP client bites

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Mark

I just finished reading a post at the F@H forum where a guy got stuck at entering his password.... it turns out that his 9 character password seemed to be an issue. he changed it to a 6 character password and life was good for him.

Never say die 😛

-Sid
 
Originally posted by: Insidious
Mark

I just finished reading a post at the F@H forum where a guy got stuck at entering his password.... it turns out that his 9 character password seemed to be an issue. he changed it to a 6 character password and life was good for him.

Never say die 😛

-Sid
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Here's another thread where reducing the machine name from 9 characters to 6 solved one problem.:shocked:

Mark's computer name is long: ANDREW-C2Q-3200
 
Originally posted by: Cutthroat
So I re-did the install and configonly so I could show you guys what I did.

Remember I ran cmd.exe as admin.

G:\FAH\FAH SMP 1>smpd -install
Stopping MPICH2 Process Manager, Argonne National Lab.
MPICH2 Process Manager, Argonne National Lab stopped.
MPICH2 Process Manager, Argonne National Lab removed.
MPICH2 Process Manager, Argonne National Lab installed.

G:\FAH\FAH SMP 1>mpiexec -register
account (domain\user) [Steve-PC\Steve]:
password:
confirm password:
Password encrypted into the Registry.

G:\FAH\FAH SMP 1>mpiexec -np 2 foo
If you see this twice, MPI is working
If you see this twice, MPI is working

G:\FAH\FAH SMP 1>

Of course when it asks for the account I just hit enter, and I did enter my password there but you can't see it.

For the config:

User name [Cutthroat]?
Team Number [198]?
Passkey []?
Ask before fetching/sending work (no/yes) [no]?
Use proxy (yes/no) [no]?
Acceptable size of work assignment and work result packets (bigger units
may have large memory demands) -- 'small' is <5MB, 'normal' is <10MB, and
'big' is >10MB (small/normal/big) [big]?
Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]? yes
Launch automatically, install as a service in this directory (yes/no) [no]?
Core Priority (idle/low) [idle]?
CPU usage requested (5-100) [100]?
Disable highly optimized assembly code (no/yes) [no]?
Pause if battery power is being used (useful for laptops) (no/yes) [no]?
Interval, in minutes, between checkpoints (3-30) [15]?
Memory, in MB, to indicate (4094 available) [4094]?
Set -advmethods flag always, requesting new advanced
scientific cores and/or work units if available (no/yes) [yes]?
Ignore any deadline information (mainly useful if
system clock frequently has errors) (no/yes) [no]?
Machine ID (1-16) [1]?
The following options require you to restart the client before they take effect
Disable CPU affinity lock (no/yes) [yes]?
Additional client parameters. Use space to clear. [-smp -verbosity 9 -forceasm -
advmethods]?
IP address to bind core to (for viewer). Hit enter to clear []?

Hope that helps a bit.
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Very nice summary cutthroat!🙂

Mark, after you run command prompt as administrator (right click on command prompt shortcut in program files and choose "run as administrator"; cutthroat mentioned this as very important.

Test smd before you start cutthroat's installation above:

type the following commands:

mpiexec -remove (removes user/password from registry)
smpd -status (to see if running as a service)
smpd -stop (stop service)
smpd -status (make sure service is no longer running)
smpd -remove (removes encrypted user/password from registry)


As Sid mentioned above, use admin password of 6 characters or less.

As I mentioned above, consider changing the name of your computer from ANDREW-C2Q-3200 to andy1 or something like that.

Then run cutthroat's install procedure.

thanks again cutthroat for the detailed install instructions!:thumbsup:


 
Originally posted by: biodoc
Originally posted by: Insidious
Mark

I just finished reading a post at the F@H forum where a guy got stuck at entering his password.... it turns out that his 9 character password seemed to be an issue. he changed it to a 6 character password and life was good for him.
Click to expand...

Here's another thread where reducing the machine name from 9 characters to 6 solved one problem.:shocked:
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Jesus, that's a lame restriction for software in 2008. I bet the actual limit is 8 characters, as that used to be a very common limit. (My computer name is 7, though my admin password is 9? Ah, who knows...)

Good find, guys. Make sure Stanford knows about this "errata" if there isn't a clear report yet.
 
I just want to say that I put in about 2 hours on this project last week. I'll try again today. I have the 6.20 gpu client working away feverishly. In my attempts to get the new gpu working with the new SMP, I deleted everything FAH that wasn't gpu. That includes all directories, all services; even FAH affinity changer. I think that simple is better. I may try one more SMP install but I hate to sacrifice the work my gpu is doing to get another 1,000 points via smp. I think we moved from being users/crunchers to beta people. It's a bit grueling and less successful but we're literally on the bleeding, cutting edge. Some like that, others don't. This is where the points are, it's hard to whine too hard about it. Thanks to MFW, Gleem, Sid, Foxery and all the others that take the time and effort to explain these things to those of us less capable (me first!) and those of us with little time to tend to the farm.

Keep folding,

Gravity
 
I can't get the install.bat to recognize my login/credentials. Anyone had this problem. I hate to ask over at stanford...they are pretty r00thless!

Gravity
 
OK, first, thanks to all for their suggestions. I changed the machine name to 5 characters, and the description as well. The password was already 6. I deinstalled everything, and I followed cutthroats instructions, and stopped when I got this:

C:\smp1>mpiexec -np 2 foo
launch failed: FAIL
launch failed: FAIL

The same problem all along. Any more ideas ? And for some reason, I can;t post on F@H forums, it tells me something about a link, and until I have 10 posts, I can;t post....
 
lol, your folding contribution is clearly under appreciated. While I get this all figured out I'm running a few single cpu units just to keep the box working.
 
Originally posted by: Cutthroat
Wow, I'm pretty stumped.
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me too.

Question for Gravity and MarkFW?

Are you installing the Deino MPI or MPICH versions??? I think cutthroat and the rest of us were assuming the latter.
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
The same problem all along. Any more ideas ? And for some reason, I can;t post on F@H forums, it tells me something about a link, and until I have 10 posts, I can;t post....
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The forum has an anti-spam setting which doesn't allow you to post URLs until you've been there for a while. If you use the
Code: 
 flag instead, you can paste one if you need to.

I'm stumped by Mark's troubles. You're running this from an account with Administrator privileges, right? It doesn't seem to be installing anything for you at all at this point :-/

[quote][i]Originally posted by: [b]biodoc[/b][/i]
Are you installing the Deino MPI or MPICH versions???  I think cutthroat and the rest of us were assuming the latter.[/quote]

Mark tried both, to no avail.
 
OK, One more update. I can;t even run the standard client, as now I can;t even ping the assignment server (which worked before I installed SP3, now it doesn't)

So thats it, I really give up.

And I can't even ping google ? but everything works fine in firefox

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.ANDREW-C2D-3200>cd\smp1

C:\smp1>ping http://assign2.stanford.edu:8080

Pinging http://assign2.stanford.edu:8080 [8.15.7.117] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 8.15.7.117:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\smp1>ping google.com

Pinging google.com [72.14.207.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 72.14.207.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\smp1>

I am posting from that machine !!!!!
 
Mark, is it just that machine you can't ping from or any others on the network? If it were just that machine I'd say something was corrupted during your crash, if it's more than 1 PC I'd say a problem with your router.

Do you by chance have an OS image from before your crash?
 
Originally posted by: Cutthroat
Mark, is it just that machine you can't ping from or any others on the network? If it were just that machine I'd say something was corrupted during your crash, if it's more than 1 PC I'd say a problem with your router.

Do you by chance have an OS image from before your crash?
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I can ping from all the rest (google that is) but none seem to be able to get to http://assign2.stanford.edu:8080 .

And the machine didn;t crash, it locked up. And everything works fine on it, except F@H (and pinging google, but that happened after installing SP3, it worked before I did SP3.
 
oddly, when it give me the username it is DOMAIN/user

When I type in the password, then repeat, it says

credentials for domain/user rejected connecting to macineid.domain.user
aborting: unable to connect to machineid.domain.user
press any key to continue . . .

Not sure i've seen the machineid as a part of this. Is this a network issue?
 
Originally posted by: petrusbroder
Somewhat OT:

This exactly what I like about TeAm AnandTech: help comes in a polite and clear way. No "NOOB!" "Check elsewhere", no invectives.
You are just a great bunch of crunchers.

Anyway: thanks for the install instructions. They may help me too.
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Switch to BOINC Nooblet!


*hides face quickly*
*waves hello to side of team he never gets to talk to*
 
lol, there's been more chatter in here amongst the team than I've ever seen and I've been crunching since.....dunno, 2000? We have some very knowledgeable members, even contributors that have good repoire with the sheeple at stanford. Our banter is immaculate!

Still folding,

Gravity
 
Thanks Gravity, I am still folding (-1 box) If anybody has access to the folding help forum, could you post the problem with :

C:\smp1>mpiexec -np 2 foo
launch failed: FAIL
launch failed: FAIL

And see if there is a fix ? XP SP3, and all done as admin.
 
LoL - if it wasn't so sad that Mark can not get his comp to run!

Aside from checking the router, the network settings of his computer, the settings of the firewall could matter - allowing port 80 (http) but not port 20 (?) (ping).
Mark are you using ZoneAlarm? if yes, update to the newest version, som of the older have a bug which comes to life when Windows XP autoupdated something some two weeks ago.

I started a thread about that in this forum ... Here is the thread!
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Thanks Gravity, I am still folding (-1 box) If anybody has access to the folding help forum, could you post the problem with :

C:\smp1>mpiexec -np 2 foo
launch failed: FAIL
launch failed: FAIL

And see if there is a fix ? XP SP3, and all done as admin.
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Sure I'll post it over there.

There is a related thread with vista64 and 5.91 client here but the prblem was unresolved.
 
Thanks, I would, but even though I was NOT trying to post a link, it acted like I was, and wouldn't accept the post.

You would think the number 61 contributor for the whole world could get onto their site and get some support.....
Mark_F_Williams Last updated: Mon Aug 4 16:00:03 PDT 2008
Mon Aug 4 23:00:03 UTC 2008

Date of last work unit 2008-08-04 16:44:22
Total score 10401519
Overall rank (if points are combined) 61 of 1044873
Active processors (within 50 days) 19
Active processors (within 7 days) 14
 
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