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New element discovered! Unobtainium?

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Lifer
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/science/07element.html?ref=science

Scientists Discover Heavy New Element

A team of Russian and American scientists has discovered a new element that has long stood as a missing link among the heaviest bits of atomic matter ever produced. The element, still nameless, appears to point the way toward a brew of still more massive elements with chemical properties no one can predict.

The team produced six atoms of the element by smashing together isotopes of calcium and a radioactive element called berkelium in a particle accelerator about 75 miles north of Moscow on the Volga River, according to a paper that has been accepted for publication at the journal Physical Review Letters.

Data collected by the team seem to support what theorists have long suspected: that as newly created elements become heavier and heavier they will eventually become much more stable and longer-lived than the fleeting bits of artificially produced matter seen so far.

If the trend continues toward a theorized “island of stability” at higher masses, said Dawn A. Shaughnessy, a chemist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California who is on the team, the work could generate an array of strange new materials with as yet unimagined scientific and practical uses.




Pretty big discovery.
 
Going to be interesting if they really do find some elements that are stable enough to really use. Probably find some really awesome uses for them, and we'll be able to make a picogram every decade or so. 🙁
 
Even if they're very stable, they're still not found naturally which means that they're either not that stable or not produced as part of some sort of stellar mass ejection, right?

Still very cool. I'm not one to piss on an idea because we have no practical way to produce in quantity on the horizon - the discovery itself is fascinating to me. But the conclusion of the article is kind of reaching, or just looking waaaay down the road.
 
These people are going to create a black hole if they aren't careful.

If they succeed, ima be pissed.
 
Just noted that the next one - ununoctium is noble! Wonders if that would be stable. Nothing with that many protons and neutrons could be that stable though right? THe field of electrons is just ridiculous. How many valence shells is that?
 
Even if they're very stable, they're still not found naturally which means that they're either not that stable or not produced as part of some sort of stellar mass ejection, right?

Still very cool. I'm not one to piss on an idea because we have no practical way to produce in quantity on the horizon - the discovery itself is fascinating to me. But the conclusion of the article is kind of reaching, or just looking waaaay down the road.

I guess they could be as stable as anything else. There just hasn't been the specific level of energy and condition necessary to create them in detectable quantities anywhere else in the universe. I think stuff goes on in an accelerator that may not happen anywhere else in the universe.
 
All these elements are so bullshit. "ooooh we smashed these two random substances together at light speed and made a new element. It existed for exactly .0000000000000000000000000001 seconds". Bullshit. Nitrogen. That's an element. Xenon, that's an element. Your bullshit fake element that you had to try too hard to get? Not an element. Keep that shit off my periodic table, asshole
 
Even if they're very stable, they're still not found naturally which means that they're either not that stable or not produced as part of some sort of stellar mass ejection, right?

Still very cool. I'm not one to piss on an idea because we have no practical way to produce in quantity on the horizon - the discovery itself is fascinating to me. But the conclusion of the article is kind of reaching, or just looking waaaay down the road.

this
 
All these elements are so bullshit. "ooooh we smashed these two random substances together at light speed and made a new element. It existed for exactly .0000000000000000000000000001 seconds". Bullshit. Nitrogen. That's an element. Xenon, that's an element. Your bullshit fake element that you had to try too hard to get? Not an element. Keep that shit off my periodic table, asshole

haha agreed
 
All these elements are so bullshit. "ooooh we smashed these two random substances together at light speed and made a new element. It existed for exactly .0000000000000000000000000001 seconds". Bullshit. Nitrogen. That's an element. Xenon, that's an element. Your bullshit fake element that you had to try too hard to get? Not an element. Keep that shit off my periodic table, asshole
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All these elements are so bullshit. "ooooh we smashed these two random substances together at light speed and made a new element. It existed for exactly .0000000000000000000000000001 seconds". Bullshit. Nitrogen. That's an element. Xenon, that's an element. Your bullshit fake element that you had to try too hard to get? Not an element. Keep that shit off my periodic table, asshole

this rant.

it is awesome.
 
eits said:
MrMatt said:
All these elements are so bullshit. "ooooh we smashed these two random substances together at light speed and made a new element. It existed for exactly .0000000000000000000000000001 seconds". Bullshit. Nitrogen. That's an element. Xenon, that's an element. Your bullshit fake element that you had to try too hard to get? Not an element. Keep that shit off my periodic table, asshole
haha agreed

Imagine my surprise that eits would agree with something completely unscientific and contrary to all evidence. Define "element", genius.
 
All these elements are so bullshit. "ooooh we smashed these two random substances together at light speed and made a new element. It existed for exactly .0000000000000000000000000001 seconds". Bullshit. Nitrogen. That's an element. Xenon, that's an element. Your bullshit fake element that you had to try too hard to get? Not an element. Keep that shit off my periodic table, asshole

Thanks for the laugh
 
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