News New Edge Browser now available

[Chiefcrowe]

This is the new chrome based Edge.

They probably won't push out the automatic update for a while but you can manually download it now here:

Get to Know Microsoft Edge

<p>Microsoft Edge is the AI-powered browser. A smarter way to browse. Learn more about built-in Edge features and capabilities that help you achieve more.</p>

www.microsoft.com

It seems pretty nice! I didn't realize they would have a macOS and iOS version and android version as well.

 

[nerp]

I like the new Edge. It's fast. I stopped using Chrome some time ago and have been using the Dev and Beta builds of Edge for some time. Now that final is out I've basically switched on both my PCs and macs. I like the ability to block third party tracking cookies. It does feel faster and leaner than Chrome. Will be interesting when a Linux version is out.

 

[EXCellR8]

Just installed the replacement version after unloading the beta. I really like it too.

BTW there is a beta version of ABP available for this new version, for those of us who prefer ad-less browsing. It's available through the MS store.

 

[UsandThem]

The old Edge

You were a fan of that one? If so, you might be the first person I've come across who liked it.

Seriously though, the old Edge was pretty much DOA for me. Microsoft's decision to not allow extensions for a significant period pretty much ruined their chance of increasing their market share. And by the time they decided to allow extensions, very few companies decided to spend the resources to develop extensions for the Microsoft Store.

 

[JEDIYoda]

First thing I noticed was ads! Took care of that quick!

Ads?? IMO you no matter what you are using FF,Edge..Google there will always be ads!
I did not find the ads to be annoying? Ads have never hurt anybody!

 

[lxskllr]

Ads have never hurt anybody!

Yes they have. Some carry a malware payload. Some also track you from site to site, and where I go is none of their damned business. The only ads I'll accept are first party only. Basically the digital version of a newspaper ad. Very few sites operate that way though. They're usually industry specific sites.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Yes they have. Some carry a malware payload. Some also track you from site to site, and where I go is none of their damned business. The only ads I'll accept are first party only. Basically the digital version of a newspaper ad. Very few sites operate that way though. They're usually industry specific sites.

let me redo that statement -- I have never been hurt by browser ads! Why because i am not stupid enough to click on them and don`t give the old well if they are on your machine they can still take over your machine without clicking on them......that just plain being childishly scared!!

 

[lxskllr]

Why because i am not stupid enough to click on them and don`t give the old well if they are on your machine they can still take over your machine without clicking on them......that just plain being childishly scared!!

Try again...

You say advertising, I say block that malware

The real reason online advertising is doomed and adblockers thrive? Its malware epidemic is unacknowledged, and out of control. The Forbes 30 Under 30 list came out this week and it featured a prominent security researcher. Other researchers were pleased to see one of their own getting positive...

www.engadget.com

 

[JEDIYoda]

Try again...

You say advertising, I say block that malware

The real reason online advertising is doomed and adblockers thrive? Its malware epidemic is unacknowledged, and out of control. The Forbes 30 Under 30 list came out this week and it featured a prominent security researcher. Other researchers were pleased to see one of their own getting positive...

www.engadget.com

I really don`t need to try agin! In my experiences not using any ad blocker, I have had no issues of ads taking over the screen!
Of course I have had issues after getting to a site with the site asking me for money or for my e-mail to which I just click and the box goes away!
It is nice that you are so proactive against ads and malware!
But in this day and age and if I am correct I have even heard some of the movers and shakers on these forums say just don`t click on the ad...what is so hard about that??

 

[lxskllr]

I'm good at a lot of things, but I can't comprehend for you. You don't have to click the ad to get infected. Or maybe I'm a dumbass. That's always an possibility, and I'm willing to accept that. Though I'm good at many things, I don't know everything. A simple link describing how ads *must* be clicked to be infected will suffice. It should be written by somebody with security experience. Bruce Schneier would be a good bet. He's a fairly prolific writer, so it should be easy finding something on his site. Here's your tools...

Schneier on Security

www.schneier.com

Prove I'm a dumbass...

 

[JEDIYoda]

So if what you are saying is true...then why even go online?
I am sorry that you are taking this so personnal, but I am correct!
If you are that worried then why even go online??
You ask for a simple link to prove that you have to click for ads to infect your computer?
How often honestly do you believe that a computer is infected by just going online and opening your browser??

I would contend that the bigger issue is are you using some sort of virus protection or are you just using youre computer with no malware or virus protection?
I have been computing since a little after quake 1 came out and in all that time I have never had any malware or other issues with viruses...etc.....
I am not trying to be argumentative, I do understand where you are coming from! yet with that said I have never had any issues!
Peace!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

@JEDIYoda you are so in the wrong here. Like saying, "If I don't vote, then someone like Donald Trump will never end up in the White House..." You can see how that goes.

More specifically, though, browsers these days auto-execute page content, as part of web loading. And when browsers are discovered to have a hole in their security, well, the code can exploit that. Without you clicking.

It's like holes in your skin, and infections.

Edit: Oh, and @JEDIYoda, I WAS infected by online malware, they 0wn3d my whole machine at the time, which was an XP HTPC. I had gone away on vacation, and come back, and NOT UPDATED MY OS OR BROWSER BEFORE GOING ONLINE.

I DID NOT click on "ads". (I never do.)

Yet, my browser started executing COMMAND PROMPT Windows, all kinds of BLEEP started exploding on my screeen.

That was when the WinHelp HTTP helper was exploited, MS had left a huge hole in the code, and BOOM! Just going to a site, malware drove right in!

Edit: Your attitude is, if I don't drive near bars, then I'll never get hit by a drunk driver. Well, some people DO still get hit. And your experience of not "getting hit" (YET), does not PROVE that no-one else gets hit or has gotten "hit". Horribly, horribly, naive point-of-view, that totally escapes logic.

Edit: I assume that you are staying up-to-date with patches for the OS and your browser. That mitigates a large portion of "0-day" attack vectors, like the one that I got hit by. Maybe that's why you've come to the conclusion that you have. Another way of possible stating your viewpoint could be, "Stay patched and up-to-date with software, and your chances of being hit by a 0-day drive-by ARE GREATLY REDUCED."

Try shutting off browser and OS auto-updates, and then go surfing pr0n sites six month later. Then get back to us how many browser/OS infections that you have.

Some malware, are nearly invisible.

Oski malware for Windows

This looks like a very serious problem for windows users. It supports basically all popular windows browsers, steals passwords saved on your browser (as well as other info). It is somehow able to inject DLL and install itself onto windows computers. This malware CNC suite was offered for sale on...

forums.anandtech.com

Edit: OH, and before I forget, I'm basically saying that JediYoda is wrong, that you CAN get (I did!) malware, just by browsing, and not even clicking any ads.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD CLICK ON ADS. DON'T EVER CLICK ON INTERNET ADS. JEDIYODA IS RIGHT THAT YOU SHOULD AVOID CLICKING ON ADS.

ALSO, ALWAYS KEEP YOUR BROWSER AND OS UP-TO-DATE WITH PATCHES.

 

[lxskllr]

Additionally, zero day means someone's probably gonna get hosed. By definition, nobody knew about it til it surfaced. Even if patched/updated in a timely manner, there's still a window of opportunity.

 

[JEDIYoda]

@JEDIYoda you are so in the wrong here. Like saying, "If I don't vote, then someone like Donald Trump will never end up in the White House..." You can see how that goes.

More specifically, though, browsers these days auto-execute page content, as part of web loading. And when browsers are discovered to have a hole in their security, well, the code can exploit that. Without you clicking.

It's like holes in your skin, and infections.

Edit: Oh, and @JEDIYoda, I WAS infected by online malware, they 0wn3d my whole machine at the time, which was an XP HTPC. I had gone away on vacation, and come back, and NOT UPDATED MY OS OR BROWSER BEFORE GOING ONLINE.

I DID NOT click on "ads". (I never do.)

Yet, my browser started executing COMMAND PROMPT Windows, all kinds of BLEEP started exploding on my screeen.

That was when the WinHelp HTTP helper was exploited, MS had left a huge hole in the code, and BOOM! Just going to a site, malware drove right in!

Edit: Your attitude is, if I don't drive near bars, then I'll never get hit by a drunk driver. Well, some people DO still get hit. And your experience of not "getting hit" (YET), does not PROVE that no-one else gets hit or has gotten "hit". Horribly, horribly, naive point-of-view, that totally escapes logic.

Edit: I assume that you are staying up-to-date with patches for the OS and your browser. That mitigates a large portion of "0-day" attack vectors, like the one that I got hit by. Maybe that's why you've come to the conclusion that you have. Another way of possible stating your viewpoint could be, "Stay patched and up-to-date with software, and your chances of being hit by a 0-day drive-by ARE GREATLY REDUCED."

Try shutting off browser and OS auto-updates, and then go surfing pr0n sites six month later. Then get back to us how many browser/OS infections that you have.

Some malware, are nearly invisible.

Oski malware for Windows

This looks like a very serious problem for windows users. It supports basically all popular windows browsers, steals passwords saved on your browser (as well as other info). It is somehow able to inject DLL and install itself onto windows computers. This malware CNC suite was offered for sale on...

forums.anandtech.com

Edit: OH, and before I forget, I'm basically saying that JediYoda is wrong, that you CAN get (I did!) malware, just by browsing, and not even clicking any ads.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD CLICK ON ADS. DON'T EVER CLICK ON INTERNET ADS. JEDIYODA IS RIGHT THAT YOU SHOULD AVOID CLICKING ON ADS.

ALSO, ALWAYS KEEP YOUR BROWSER AND OS UP-TO-DATE WITH PATCHES.

Yes!! You are correct!
"Stay patched and up-to-date with software, and your chances of being hit by a 0-day drive-by ARE GREATLY REDUCED."
I should have said that because my experience with browsers and ads seem to be quite a bit different than that of other people!!
Thank You Larry!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

I guess, I'd like to say, you're not doing the wrong thing, not clicking on ads, and keeping your browser and OS updated, are two of the most powerful things that you can do as far as security hygiene, but I would say, an ad-blocker will enhance your privacy, as will a VPN, as well as staying away from "shady" sites. (Two of the most favorite site classes for drive-by malware are pr0n/war3z and "movie sites".)

I just felt that your initial advice "don't click on ads and you won't get infected" to be a bit incomplete.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I guess, I'd like to say, you're not doing the wrong thing, not clicking on ads, and keeping your browser and OS updated, are two of the most powerful things that you can do as far as security hygiene, but I would say, an ad-blocker will enhance your privacy, as will a VPN, as well as staying away from "shady" sites. (Two of the most favorite site classes for drive-by malware are pr0n/war3z and "movie sites".)

I just felt that your initial advice "don't click on ads and you won't get infected" to be a bit incomplete.

point taken!! Thanks!

 

[balloonshark]

Layering your security is always smart when it comes to computers. Blocking ads is just another layer like keeping your OS and programs up to date, using the noscript add-on, running an anti-malware/virus app, downloading from safe sites, scanning your downloads before you run them, using a 2nd or 3rd on demand scanner, etc. The more layers you have the harder it is for the bad guys. Don't be an easy target or "low hanging fruit) for the bad guys. Make them work for it

 

[RLGL]

You were a fan of that one? If so, you might be the first person I've come across who liked it.

Viewing this with FireFox, better than Chrome.