New dryer's plug doesn't match outlet

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Phoenix86

Lifer
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Originally posted by: fredtam
Phoenix86? Phoenix86?

Please god don't hook 120V to your chassis.

Was writing that when you wrote the post before it. Even when I wrote that no 120V was going to the chassis. ;) Well see what happens in a few hours when I get home, wuhahaha.

This post:

Hook the two hot wires two the outer terminals. Hook the neutral wire to the center terminal. Move the green wire (ground) from it's terminal to the ground block on the neutral terminal. The three wire system uses the neutral for ground and not an independent ground because you do not have a fourth (ground) wire.

Makes is clear. No independant ground on my new wire so it's the wire that's not connectd. Run the green external ground from the dryer to neutral on the block. The two hots go on the outside (A and C), inside is netural (B).
 

Phoenix86

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Thanks again, I'll post in a while what happens, probably wont be for another 3-4 hours when the wife gets a break from work. Don't want to do this alone, for obvious safety reasons. Need someone to woman (she can't man it right?) the circuit breaker. ;)
 

Rumpltzer

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Wow... sure is a lot of discussion about a simple wiring job.

Forget about Home Depot, the wall socket, and the dryer plug. Obviously you just need four paper clips and some electrical tape.

I'm sure having your wife at the circuit breaker will make this a much more interesting project. Please, please take some video. PLEEEEASE!?

Be careful.
 

Phoenix86

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Wow... sure is a lot of discussion about a simple wiring job.
If it was that simple, there wouldn't be this much discussions. :)

I'm sure having your wife at the circuit breaker will make this a much more interesting project. Please, please take some video. PLEEEEASE!?

Be careful.

No pics or videos, esp. pics or videos of my wife. ;)
 

JC

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Wow, lots of misinformation and half-truths here!

Firstly, I install appliances for a living, and I've installed lots of electric dryers. I've only seen little apartment-size dryers come WITH a cord....regular dryers are shipped without a cord, because local codes vary.

You need a 4-wire dryer cord. The hot wires (red and black) go on the outside terminals, common/neutral (white) in the center, ground (green) on the green screw. What I didn't see posted here, is that there is a strap (usually copper or aluminum) that connects the center terminal to the ground screw. If you install a 4-wire cord, you have to cut this strap...or you defeat the whole purpose of having the separate ground and neutral.


JC

edit: here, have a look at THIS.
 

WTT0001

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This One looks like it has all the info you need.

Basically, replace the cord on the dryer, not the outlet, Black and Red go to the outside terminals on the dryer, white to the center (neutral). The green ground wire also goes to the center terminal (neutral).

Simple???

WTT
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: JC
Wow, lots of misinformation and half-truths here!

Firstly, I install appliances for a living, and I've installed lots of electric dryers. I've only seen little apartment-size dryers come WITH a cord....regular dryers are shipped without a cord, because local codes vary.

You need a 4-wire dryer cord. The hot wires (red and black) go on the outside terminals, common/neutral (white) in the center, ground (green) on the green screw. What I didn't see posted here, is that there is a strap (usually copper or aluminum) that connects the center terminal to the ground screw. If you install a 4-wire cord, you have to cut this strap...or you defeat the whole purpose of having the separate ground and neutral.


JC

edit: here, have a look at THIS.

Install appliances for a living huh? So when he hooks the four wire plug and cuts the ground wire HOW DOES HE GET THE FVCKING FOUR PRONG PLUG IN A THREE PRONG OUTLET? God help your customers.
Please read the OP again.
 

fredtam

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He needs to convert the dryer from a 4wire cord to a 3wire cord. To do this he needs to take the ground strap that is currently connected to an independent ground wire on the 4wire plug and connect it to the neutral terminal so neutral can supply ground. Then hook the two hot wires to the outside terminals and the neutral to the center terminal. Now he can connect his 3WIRE CORD TO HIS 3WIRE OUTLET.
 

JC

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Yeah Fredtam, I misread the post.

Now put the lid back on your can of attitude.


edit: :roll:
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: JC
Yeah Fredtam, I misread the post.

Now put the lid back on your can of attitude.


edit: :roll:

Well if your going to come in talking about "half truths" and spouting your credentials at least take the time to know what the actual problem is.
 

JC

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: JC
Yeah Fredtam, I misread the post.

Now put the lid back on your can of attitude.


edit: :roll:

Well if your going to come in talking about "half truths" and spouting your credentials at least take the time to know what the actual problem is.



Rest assured, if I was at his house I could wire his dryer up correctly.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: JC
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: JC
Yeah Fredtam, I misread the post.

Now put the lid back on your can of attitude.


edit: :roll:

Well if your going to come in talking about "half truths" and spouting your credentials at least take the time to know what the actual problem is.



Rest assured, if I was at his house I could wire his dryer up correctly.

Oh I believe you. You just gave the info for converting from 3wire to 4wire. That would have been right if he had a 3wire cord on his dryer and a 4wire outlet. I just got annoyed with the misinfo in this thread.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: JC
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: JC
Yeah Fredtam, I misread the post.

Now put the lid back on your can of attitude.


edit: :roll:

Well if your going to come in talking about "half truths" and spouting your credentials at least take the time to know what the actual problem is.



Rest assured, if I was at his house I could wire his dryer up correctly.

Oh I believe you. You just gave the info for converting from 3wire to 4wire. That would have been right if he had a 3wire cord on his dryer and a 4wire outlet. I just got annoyed with the misinfo in this thread.
Completely understandable. Same thing with me and some car threads. ;)

/will think twice about opening mouth regarding wiring in the future

;)
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: fredtam
Jesus, go buy another cord. There are different types of dryer cords. New and old. They are both 240v. Don't change your wall outlet just go get another cord and hook it to your dryer.
Unless the seller changes it, he will void his warrantee.

It is cheaper and easier to change the outlet.

Bullsh*t DO NOT CHANGE THE OUTLET!!! It the type of outlet in your house is required by your local building code. You have to go down and get a cord that matches your plug. that is why they sell them!

Damn you people need to know what you are talking about before you tell somebody the wrong information. :|
 

db

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The cord to be used is dictated by your apartment's dryer circuit.

If the apartment dryer circuit was wired according to older code, the newest code (ref. NEC 250.140) makes provision for that older "existing" circuit and your new dryer, permitting the frame of the dryer to be grounded to the neutral of the existing apartment circuit's 3 wires, providing that neutral is not smaller than 10 AWG.
(Service-entrance cable with a bare neutral is permitted where it runs from the service location directly to the dryer receptacle).
So in the above example only, a three-wire receptacle may be used (per to the newest Code).

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OTOH, if your apartment is new it would likely be wired according to the newest National Electrical Code,
in which case you would use the 4-wire dryer cord, making seperate connections for the common and ground at the dryer.

That link in an above post is good for showing the different connections at the dryer!
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
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Originally posted by: fredtam
The question now is did Phoenix86 fry himself?

Quite safe, dryer=drying.

Sorry for not updating, my wife works nights, so I didn't do it last night, and I had an offsite meeting (sans internet) all day.

Thanks Fredtam and others a lot.

If you could help you wouldn't need diagrams
Well everyone else got it. *shrugs*

Damn you people need to know what you are talking about before you tell somebody the wrong information.
BS filter++
Those who know what they are talking about stand out. ;)
 

compudog

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What a great thread! Well, Phoenix86, I am glad your dryer is drying and you are not frying. :eek:

I knew you could do it. The correct answer was in there...