whenever i use windows media player to copy it to my hard drive there are all kinds of crackles and pops. this pisses me off. how can i avoid this.
slu MD
slu MD
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You aren't the only one. Just look at nancies.org
The stupid new "dual disc" format is incompatible w/ like 80% of all optical drives (including home & car CD Players) and thus MILLIONS of people cannot make legal rips of their albums.
Just give up and download the bittorrent of it, so you now have a copy of it in mp3. So long as you own the actual CD, the d/load is legal. It's another form of shape-shifting your IP.
The stupid new "dual disc" format is incompatible w/ like 80% of all optical drives (including home & car CD Players) and thus MILLIONS of people cannot make legal rips of their albums.
Just give up and download the bittorrent of it, so you now have a copy of it in mp3. So long as you own the actual CD, the d/load is legal. It's another form of shape-shifting your IP.
I initially read this "new dumb cd."
I then realized I was correct. Man, the dual disc format is really causing havoc.
How is the music itself? I was quite disappointed with Everyday.
I then realized I was correct. Man, the dual disc format is really causing havoc.
How is the music itself? I was quite disappointed with Everyday.
havent really listened to it yet. we'll see, doesnt sound all that hot from the 1st 3 songs.
slu MD
slu MD
daniel1113
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DualDisc is just Redbook audio & a DVD back to back, right?
Why would that pose a problem for optical drives?
If they were on the same side & dual layered (like SACD hybrids) I could see a potential conflict but as long as they're on separate sides there really shouldn't be an issue.
Viper GTS
Why would that pose a problem for optical drives?
If they were on the same side & dual layered (like SACD hybrids) I could see a potential conflict but as long as they're on separate sides there really shouldn't be an issue.
Viper GTS
Have you tried to rip them using a different program? I use JetAudio (www.jetaudio.com) to rip my music to ogg format, but it also does wma's. No mp3 ripping unless you pay for it.
Interesting, did a little searching:
http://stereophile.com/asweseeit/105awsi/
Let's also reflect on why the playing time of a DualDisc's CD layer is limited to 60 minutes. To enable the disc to have two readable sides and still remain slim enough to play in most machines (except as noted above), the substrate layer of the CD side must be half the thickness (0.6mm) of the "Red Book" specification (1.2mm). The trouble with a thinner CD layer, though, is that it will generate a higher error rate for a significant number of players, which will not be able to precisely focus their lasers on the now closer pits. The workaround for this is to stretch out the data pits, which forces the player to spin the disc faster, hence the shorter playing time. "Red Book" CDs can cram up to 80 minutes of music onto a disc?a full 20 minutes more content than the CD side of a DualDisc. Beethoven's Ninth will now have to be sliced and diced.
Here's the interesting part: Industry insiders admit that, even with the pit fix, a DualDisc CD layer causes the error correction of your player to work overtime while deciphering the slightly fuzzy pits and lands on the disc. The CD layer of a new DualDisc is basically equivalent to an unwashed and somewhat slightly dazed regular CD that's five years old.
You read right: A new DualDisc begins life as a scuzzy pre-aged CD and goes downhill from there. Two major equipment manufacturers have already sent out service bulletins warning about their players' potential compatibility problems with the thicknesses of DualDiscs and CDs.
So they deviated from redbook & are having problems.
Gee, who could have seen that coming?
I hereby declare DualDisc to be trash.
:thumbsdown:
Oh, and to back that site up from Sony themselves:
http://www.css.ap.sony.com/usefulinfo/DualDisc%20FAQ_Web%20Notice.htm
I'll be damned if I ever buy one.
Viper GTS
http://stereophile.com/asweseeit/105awsi/
Let's also reflect on why the playing time of a DualDisc's CD layer is limited to 60 minutes. To enable the disc to have two readable sides and still remain slim enough to play in most machines (except as noted above), the substrate layer of the CD side must be half the thickness (0.6mm) of the "Red Book" specification (1.2mm). The trouble with a thinner CD layer, though, is that it will generate a higher error rate for a significant number of players, which will not be able to precisely focus their lasers on the now closer pits. The workaround for this is to stretch out the data pits, which forces the player to spin the disc faster, hence the shorter playing time. "Red Book" CDs can cram up to 80 minutes of music onto a disc?a full 20 minutes more content than the CD side of a DualDisc. Beethoven's Ninth will now have to be sliced and diced.
Here's the interesting part: Industry insiders admit that, even with the pit fix, a DualDisc CD layer causes the error correction of your player to work overtime while deciphering the slightly fuzzy pits and lands on the disc. The CD layer of a new DualDisc is basically equivalent to an unwashed and somewhat slightly dazed regular CD that's five years old.
You read right: A new DualDisc begins life as a scuzzy pre-aged CD and goes downhill from there. Two major equipment manufacturers have already sent out service bulletins warning about their players' potential compatibility problems with the thicknesses of DualDiscs and CDs.
So they deviated from redbook & are having problems.
Gee, who could have seen that coming?
I hereby declare DualDisc to be trash.
:thumbsdown:
Oh, and to back that site up from Sony themselves:
http://www.css.ap.sony.com/usefulinfo/DualDisc%20FAQ_Web%20Notice.htm
I'll be damned if I ever buy one.
Viper GTS
That's probably what I would do, except not in MP3.
Grab the entire thing in FLAC from someone who has the regular Redbook version.
Viper GTS
yukichigai
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Yep, deviating from Redbook specs isn't really smart, at least the thickness requirement. I mean if you're trying to make your own, new spec, fine, but don't expect all players to be able to handle it.
It's a nice idea, but it's not that nice. Certainly not worth all the headaches it's causing.
Oh yeah, try ripping with CDex. It's free and does a damn good job, and it can encode to plenty of formats. (Does Ogg and mp3 out of the box)
It's a nice idea, but it's not that nice. Certainly not worth all the headaches it's causing.
Oh yeah, try ripping with CDex. It's free and does a damn good job, and it can encode to plenty of formats. (Does Ogg and mp3 out of the box)
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http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1584086&enterthread=y
Same here brotha... Couldnt get it to work on ANYTHING i own....
Same here brotha... Couldnt get it to work on ANYTHING i own....
I wanna know why you'd use Windows Media Player for copying audio off a CD to begin with, or iTunes for that matter. Both suck, IMO.
i have the regular version of the disk (not dual disc) and i had issues ripping hte cd as well... they have some form of copy protection... i use the method listed near the bottom of this page... and it fixed the problem http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/
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