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New Dell 24" LCD 2407WFP-HC..Much Better Colors

gigahertz20

gigahertz20

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I was browsing through some sites and saw this forum, (http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=162570) The buyer of the new Dell 2407WFP-HC posted some pics.

Looks like the new wide gamut backlighting improves this popular 24" LCD alot. Now for all of you who bought the old 2407WFP just recently don't kill yourselfs!



The most noticable difference I saw was between these 2 pictures, look at the dark spot below the cliff. In the HC version you can see much more detail. If you want to see more pictures, go to the link above.

The 2 Pictures

Dell 2407WFP
http://i204.photobucket.com/al...bb40/Zetc/P1000542.jpg

Dell 2407WFP-HC
http://i204.photobucket.com/al...bb40/Zetc/P1000543.jpg




Dell already has it on sale for $680
http://accessories.us.dell.com...dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5647
 
I don't really see a difference. TBH the non-HC is more vibrant (atleast in blues to me) and the -HC one looks worse, but I am guessing thats because of the pic.
 
Originally posted by: vhx
I don't really see a difference. TBH the non-HC is more vibrant (atleast in blues to me) and the -HC one looks worse, but I am guessing thats because of the pic.
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Did you even look at the dark spot under the cliff? The difference is pretty obvious to me, I won't buy it though until reviews come out. We'll see then what the professional reviewers have to say about it, even then $680 for a 24" monitor is hella expensive. Not only that but consider you'll need a $350 video card or more to play games at the native resolution with everything turned on.

Might be better just to wait until end of July when Samsung relases their new 226CW 22" LCD, I think it's another TN panel though, but at least you're not paying a crap load of money for a monitor.

 
I agree with vhx, I was at first thinking, hey which one is the 'newer' screen, I checked back, and was kinda feeling weird, coz the older screen looked better imo. It all comes down to the right settings too though, you can really do a lot with nvidia's drivers when it comes to colors and such.
 
Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
I run my 2407WFP just fine with my old 6600GT at 1920x1200 (the 2407's native res.).
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Sure it will run fine if you don't do anything graphically intensive, but try playing Fear/Farcry/Oblivion at your native resolution of 1920x1200 and see what kind of FPS you get? I would be very surpised if it was more then 30fps. I definitely know if you turned on AA settings and all the other goodies you would for sure not get more then 30fps in one of those games with only a 6600GT.
 
The HC clearly produces a more natural picture (because it is able to cover more of visible spectrum), while the non-HC looks overvibrant and nonrealistic, and probably less calibrated. The HC reveals details better in the dark, renders the water in its true color rather than an oversaturated blue. (This is my assessment, viewing it on a well-calibrated 72% monitor.)

Try and place yourself in the picture, and you may realize that the HC is a lot more realistic.
 
The the HC looks the same to me, but with a yellow tint (like an old newspaper) to me. Everywhere the other one looks white or gray, the HC looks yellow. Hard to really say from these pictures though - it is quite likely that in real life the HC looks better than the non-HC. I have a 2407WFP, and the picture is certainly nice, but not perfect.

edit: on a closer look, you can see a bit more detail on the HC and the picture has more depth. I still don't like that yellowed look though. Looks dingy and tired... I like my whites and grays to be crisp and clean.
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: gigahertz20
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Deadtrees
http://i204.photobucket.com/al...bb40/Zetc/P1000543.jpg => f/2.8, 1/40
http://i204.photobucket.com/al...bb40/Zetc/P1000542.jpg => f/2.8, 1/20

Do I need to explain more?</end quote></div>

I don't get it....so please explain more</end quote></div>


Those two pictures have different exposure settings and probably different white balance values as well.
As the second picture was taken with longer exposure, no wonder it's brighter and that you're able to see the dark area.
If the 1st picture was taken with say exposure value of f/2.8, 1/10, you'd be saying that the 1st monitor is better as you can see the dark spot.

And, because both of pictures had white balance settings set as 'Auto', I couldn't get real values of white balance which means I have no clue
if the color on 2nd monitor is really yellowish and 1st monitor is blueish.

In other words, you can have perfectly calibrated monitor and make it look like a garbage by playing with camera's settings or by not having any settings.

Anyway, what I wanna point out is that those two comparisons don't make any sense at all because of above mentioned reasons.




 
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
In other words, you can have perfectly calibrated monitor and make it look like a garbage by playing with camera's settings or by not having any settings.

Anyway, what I wanna point out is that those two comparisons don't make any sense at all because of above mentioned reasons.
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Even though the test wasn't as scientific as it could be, it still depicts the difference fairly well.

A Chinese site got similar results when taking a picture of the two side-by-side. Although not quite as dramatic since they didn't take complex enough pictures (or perhaps since it's technically the 30" model), the ones they did take indicate a more natural look.

The primaries look more natural as well.

http://topic.pcpop.com/publish...cleview.aspx?id=198337

Maybe the OP wouldn't mind providing us with pictures that use the same F-stop and have a consistent white balance? Also, were you using the same brightness, contrast (if even available on the Dell), DV mode, and anything else? Or was the difference apparent everywhere anyway?
 
Maybe the OP wouldn't mind providing us with pictures that use the same F-stop and have a consistent white balance? Also, were you using the same brightness, contrast (if even available on the Dell), DV mode, and anything else? Or was the difference apparent everywhere anyway?
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I didn't take those pictures, like it said in my original post the two pictures I provided were taken from the link in my original post. Those 2 pictures I linked to were just the ones I thought showed the difference between the 2 monitors the best. If you want to see more pictures go to that link as I only provided just 2 pictures.
 
i can do that too if i turn up my color saturation.

there isnt anything going on than the monitor using a darker color saturation under blues, and possibly having blacker blacks.

not a big deal really.
 
Hey all. I've spent the day reading every thread and review I could find on the net about the Dell 2407WFP-HC and finally broke down and ordered one. All I can do is hope it is as good overall as I read about. All the "netfuss" seemed to be centered around the BenQ 241WZ, The LG L245/6wp and this Dell. I also noticed after ordering about the coupons. I teach so I requested a discount. The site showed a "call for price" and I ended up paying $629 +tx. Free shipping was the only coupon. I also looked at those big 27" and 30" but they would be too massive. I compared the size to the 24" imac in CompUSA and was amazed at that size let alone anything bigger.


Oh, as you probably already know, any of the monitors I mentioned would probably be great. but the price, review info., and feature set, of the Dell swayed me. Apparently it is not IPS technology but either MPVA or SPVA. Dell told me it was a Samsung panel but readings online indicate the possibility of Optronics AMVA technology. Some said that Samsung did not make a wide gamut 24" but I found a link that described a new panel of theirs as well. Whatever it is I hope for the best. I just checked and it is showing the order as shipped already?!? They initially said 2 weeks. hmm.
 
Originally posted by: Rodsterinfl
Hey all. I've spent the day reading every thread and review I could find on the net about the Dell 2407WFP-HC and finally broke down and ordered one. All I can do is hope it is as good overall as I read about. All the "netfuss" seemed to be centered around the BenQ 241WZ, The LG L245/6wp and this Dell. I also noticed after ordering about the coupons. I teach so I requested a discount. The site showed a "call for price" and I ended up paying $629 +tx. Free shipping was the only coupon. I also looked at those big 27" and 30" but they would be too massive. I compared the size to the 24" imac in CompUSA and was amazed at that size let alone anything bigger.


Oh, as you probably already know, any of the monitors I mentioned would probably be great. but the price, review info., and feature set, of the Dell swayed me. Apparently it is not IPS technology but either MPVA or SPVA. Dell told me it was a Samsung panel but readings online indicate the possibility of Optronics AMVA technology. Some said that Samsung did not make a wide gamut 24" but I found a link that described a new panel of theirs as well. Whatever it is I hope for the best. I just checked and it is showing the order as shipped already?!? They initially said 2 weeks. hmm.
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It's a Samsung panel, and Dell, AFAIK, typically overstates shipping time.
 
It doesn't matter which is brighter from default settings. If properly calibrated I'm assuming both would look the same either way.
 
Sorry to resurect an oldish thread, but I was wondering if anyone has one of these new 2407 HC's. I came very close to ordering one today (£432 inc shipping, vat 4 year warranty and 0 dead pixel cover).

However I have seen a number or people reporting problems with ghosting/shadowing and other similar artifacts, anyone able to comment on their experience with this panel. Plan to use it for a bit of everything, Movies, TV, Games, Web, Documents etc etc so looking really for a jack of all trades, master of none I guess.

Will be moving up from a Viewsonic VP912s (19" 4:3).

Any comments and suggestions welcomed.
 
I bought one a couple of weeks ago on sale for $569 with free shipping and this is the best computer related investment I have ever made. The picture on this monitor is gorgeous and for the price....WOW. I have this baby paired with an 8800GTS 640MB and I couldnt ask for better performance...once again...WOW. This is how good this thing looks....Im still more excited about my freaking monitor than I am about my q6600 OCing to 3.6GHz on air (i bought them at the same time). This is the best overall combination of value and performance in the LCD market.

The only suggestion I would have if you are thinking of purchasing this monitor is to make sure your video card can keep up.
 
System keeping up shouldn't be a problem 🙂

Striker Extreme
Q6600 GO (Yet to be OC'd)
2GB Ram
EVGA 8800GTX KO ACS3
150Gb Raptor system/swap
4x 500gb Raid 5 (Adaptec 3805 PCIe raid card)

Just put this system together a week ago... should do the job 🙂

I can feel my credit card hiding in fear.
 
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