New Data for Piledriver

[Kevmanw430]

Other resluts posted on NBR. Trying to obtain original source.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/120412/cz2djx3q.jpg

 

[Arzachel]

If you ignore this part...



The good news is that there's clearly something salvageable in the Bulldozer design. I'm not happy with the CMT approach either because moar coars doesn't equate to more performance but this chip is looking to be what Bulldozer should have been in the first place: Nehalem performance. The even better news here is that the Nehalem performance is coming from an APU that's got VLIW4 graphics attached to it limiting TDP and likely clock speeds. If Vishera clocks even higher, coupled with that L3 cache it should be pretty damn good.

This is what I expected from BD. Hell, this is what AMD expected from BD. Hopefully we'll see further improvements with Vishera, tightening the latencies on L2 and L3 caches would be nice.

Hopefully we'll see high end Trinities in laptops with decent parts and build quality.

 

[Vesku]

Roughly equivalent to an i7-970 with an integrated Radeon 6570 with 100W TDP, not too shabby if true.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Wait, wait. You're telling me that a 2 module/4 "core" PD is faster than a 6C/12T Gulftown?

You're also telling me that an i5 2500K is faster than a Gulftown? lol. Okay.

 

[pelov]

I believe those are single-threaded numbers

 

[Chiropteran]

You're also telling me that an i5 2500K is faster than a Gulftown? lol. Okay.

Why wouldn't it be?

 

[Ferzerp]

Didn't you guys learn last time to wait until the part is released, or at least released to reviewers before deciding what the performance will be?

 

[blckgrffn]

Didn't you guys learn last time to wait until the part is released, or at least released to reviewers before deciding what the performance will be?

Boring. Post release angst is priceless.

 

[Vesku]

I believe those are single-threaded numbers

Oops, yeah I think the numbers are per thread but I imagine HT must not be a factor looking at i7-970 numbers compared to 2500K. Still, 4 core S1366 i7 at roughly ~3.4GHz performance is a nice jump from Llano.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Pliedriver isn't the same as Trinity...confusing title is confusing...

 

[Chiropteran]

Pliedriver isn't the same as Trinity...confusing title is confusing...

Trinity contains piledriver cores. What part of that is confusing?

 

[Rvenger]

ok so comparing Trinity to Llano will give us an idea how good the IPC gains are, right?

 

[Vesku]

Yes, Piledriver will be lightly tweaked Trinity cores with L3.

 

[meloz]

Yes, Piledriver will be lightly tweaked Trinity cores with L3.

I thought Piledriver was derived by improving Bulldozer.
And Trinity is an improved replacement for Llano (Stars, K10 lives!).

 

[Vesku]

Trinity is improved bulldozer cores (no L3) fused with VLIW4* GPU. It is the replacement for Llano.

*Most likely scenario, no evidence it will be GCN based.

 

[pelov]

Trinity is Piledriver cores with VLIW4 and no L3. Vishera, the AM3+ part, is also Piledriver cores but with some potential tweaks and L3 cache. The Bulldozer APU was cancelled as soon as they saw how poorly BD performed

 

[Arachnotronic]

Why wouldn't it be?

In anything threaded, the Gulftown chips rip SNB 4C a new one. If these are single thread numbers, then it makes sense.

Looks like AMD's got a very viable mobile APU, then. Glad I own their stock.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Trinity contains piledriver cores. What part of that is confusing?

That Trinity is an APU when Piledriver is expected to be a normal desktop chip?

 

[busydude]

That Trinity is an APU when Piledriver is expected to be a normal desktop chip.

No.

 

[Rvenger]

No.

So trinity will only have 2-4 piledriver cores. Doesnt that only mean 1-2 modules??? Almost like single core and dual core with glorified hyperthreading.

 

[RavenSEAL]

No.

Well shit. I lose. :\

 

[Olikan]

So trinity will only have 2-4 piledriver cores. Doesnt that only mean 1-2 modules??? Almost like single core and dual core with glorified hyperthreading.

yet, better than llano with 4 FULL CORES :awe:

 

[blckgrffn]

Well shit. I lose. :\

ha!

Well, you will win if you get a worthy CPU to drop into that nice rig in your sig!

Later this year, of course...

 

[T_Yamamoto]

ha!

Well, you will win if you get a worthy CPU to drop into that nice rig in your sig!

Later this year, of course...

:awe:

 

[joshhedge]

:awe:

I never realised Pile Driver was built on a 32nm process, is that considered bad these days? I take it that is the same as Bulldozer?