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mfenn said:
A GTX 580 Ultra is not a real NVidia SKU, it's just EVGA's term for a 3GB, overclocked card. It won't perform significantly differently than a GTX 580, certainly nowhere near 6950 2GB CFX.
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The classified ultra actually has an improved PCB, PWM, Fan, and is binned for higher overclocks. Its our own design with a 580 binned GPU. The 3GB 580 Superclocked is what you are referring to.
 
mfenn said:
A GTX 580 Ultra is not a real NVidia SKU, it's just EVGA's term for a 3GB, overclocked card. It won't perform significantly differently than a GTX 580, certainly nowhere near 6950 2GB CFX.

AMD (no such thing as ATI, get with the times!) is just as good as Nvidia on average. AMD sometimes has bad driver released, but then again so does Nvidia (just ask all the Nvidia owners who had their cards fried by the legendary 196.75 drivers).
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True every manufacturer has its faults. My nvidia driver keeps crash restoring. Upped to the latest BETA driver and it fixed. No clue why a nonbeta would do so...
 
EVGA_MatthewH said:
The classified ultra actually has an improved PCB, PWM, Fan, and is binned for higher overclocks. Its our own design with a 580 binned GPU. The 3GB 580 Superclocked is what you are referring to.
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You could just get this like I said for the same price:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1554323

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Has slight less performance than the 590 BUT it is stronger than the 580.
Its 2 GTX560Ti's combined with no performance drop. SLI in one card.
 
That card has only 1GB effective VRAM, which is a pretty stupid way to cripple the potential of the GPUs. I've found that even one 560 Ti could in some situations benefit from having more than 1GB VRAM. Two 560 Ti's would certainly use more than 1GB in modern games at playable settings that actually use all the performance available.

6950 2GB crossfire has no such VRAM limitation, it's faster (including more memory bandwidth), uses less power, makes less noise (two gpus on two cards > two gpus on one card), and is cheaper after rebate.
 
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EVGA_MatthewH said:
The classified ultra actually has an improved PCB, PWM, Fan, and is binned for higher overclocks. Its our own design with a 580 binned GPU. The 3GB 580 Superclocked is what you are referring to.
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Yes, that is exactly what I said. Next time, try reading my post before spouting the marketing line. It is still a GTX 580.

Calling it a "GTX 580 Ultra" is a deceptive marketing practice designed to take advantage of the fact that Nvidia themselves have used the "Ultra" terminology in the past connote a higher-end SKU. Judging from the OP's confusion, it seems to have worked. Luckily he has independent forums such as these to clear the air.
 
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According to many reviews on the EVGA 460GTX "2Win" card, those cards suffer from a design defect, where, after time, the fans loosen slightly, and fall down into the plastic shroud, shearing off fins.
 
mfenn said:
Yes, that is exactly what I said. Next time, try reading my post before spouting the marketing line. It is still a GTX 580.

Calling it a "GTX 580 Ultra" is a deceptive marketing practice designed to take advantage of the fact that Nvidia themselves have used the "Ultra" terminology in the past connote a higher-end SKU. Judging from the OP's confusion, it seems to have worked. Luckily he has independent forums such as these to clear the air.
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we should seriously hold a 30 minute service announcement on tv telling everyone how they're getting ripped off on computer equipment.
 
Another quick note, about the Mobo. In another thread the GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 was recommended highly, this vs the asrock? (note, I've had an asrock previously and an abit and have been more than pleased with the performance.) In my post above I brought up the 570 and i'm still on the fence about taking the dive for the nvidia 3d vision. I have the acer 3d capable monitor as well as the acer projector that my son plays bf3 and mw3 on in my man cave. Not that that has anything to do with anything tbh. I can do without 3d as I don't play any games that I feel that immersed in.
 
bkg1906 said:
Another quick note, about the Mobo. In another thread the GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 was recommended highly, this vs the asrock? (note, I've had an asrock previously and an abit and have been more than pleased with the performance.) In my post above I brought up the 570 and i'm still on the fence about taking the dive for the nvidia 3d vision. I have the acer 3d capable monitor as well as the acer projector that my son plays bf3 and mw3 on in my man cave. Not that that has anything to do with anything tbh. I can do without 3d as I don't play any games that I feel that immersed in.
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The big feature advantages that the GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 has over the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 are USB 3.0 front panel and IEEE1394 support. If you don't need either of those, the ASRock is a better deal from a price/performance point of view.
 
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