new cpu, mobo, ram

[crya]

I need to upgrade my pc. my gpu is radeon hd 512mb gddr5. Budget cca 265 usd. i will use pc for - internet, gaming - 1280x720 (medium detail is enough),
Which varianty will be better?

1.
cpu - i3 3220
mobo - ASUS P8Z77-V LX
ram - Kingston 8GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 HyperX X2 Grey Series

2.
cpu - a10 5800k
mobo - GIGABYTE F2A75-D3H
ram - Kingston 8GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 HyperX X2 Grey Series

 

[T_Yamamoto]

1) but with a h77 motherboard and the cheapest 1333mhz 2x4gb ddr3 1.5v ram

 

[inf64]

What exact model is your graphics card?

 

[crya]

this one http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=915&lid=1&pid=309&leg=0

 

[crya]

What about a10 5800k? Shouldn't it be better than i3 ? - better Mhz, quad core..

 

[Ken g6]

AMD Trinity has two gaming use cases:

1. People who can't afford a discrete graphics card. You have one, and it appears to be (slightly) better than the A10's.
2. People who crossfire a discrete card with the APU graphics. Your card does not appear to be compatible.

Therefore, I wouldn't get the a10. Now:

- Do you have a powerful (>400W) PSU?
- Do you prefer AMD to Intel?
- Are you willing to overclock?

If so, you might consider an AMD FX-4300 with a cheap AM3+ board.

On the other hand, if you go with a cheap B75 (for Ivy Bridge) or H61 (for Sandy Bridge if you have to) board, you might save enough to get an i5. Which is better than AMD in just about all cases.

Or you might find some way to save enough money to get a better GPU, like a 7750.

 

[crya]

i prefer intel - maybe i will find a way to buy i5 3470 - is it a lot better than i3 3220? I'll also buy new gpu later, i guess 7770 or 7750

 

[crya]

and should i buy i3 and hd 7770 or i5 and stay with my current gpu ?

 

[laputan machine]

With that resolution on the monitor, keep the gpu and get an i5. You won't have to think about a cpu upgrade for a long time.

 

[frozentundra123456]

and should i buy i3 and hd 7770 or i5 and stay with my current gpu ?

I would say that an i3 and a HD7770 would give you better gaming performance now, while the i5 would make the CPU more future proof and you could add a better video card later. Although the 5670 might be adequate for most games at your low resolution at medium settings, I think you might be pleasantly surprised at how much better games would look at higher settings. You did not mention your power supply, but the 7770 does require a supplemental 6 pin connector.

 

[Yuriman]

An i5 is a considerable upgrade over an i3 but as frozentundra says, an i3 paired with an HD7770 would be a much more balanced system than an i5 with your current card. You wont likely be disappointed with an i3.

 

[NTMBK]

To be honest, I'd go with the i3, keep your current GPU, and invest in an SSD. If you're doing internet browsing and only light gaming, then an SSD would make your PC more noticeably snappy than an i5. Your PC will start faster, launch programs faster, and generally be more responsive.

I would consider the A10, though- Trinity performs quite well when compared to the i3, as these benchmarks show. It often beat the slightly older i3 tested there, so should be about equal to the newer one you're looking at. (Plus the far better integrated graphics would be useful if you ever wanted to, say, reuse the processor in a HTPC.) Not to mention, the FM2 socket has been promised future upgrades from AMD, whereas Intel's LGA-1155 won't get any more updates- so you would be able to reuse your AMD board, but not your Intel board.

 

[frozentundra123456]

To be honest, I'd go with the i3, keep your current GPU, and invest in an SSD. If you're doing internet browsing and only light gaming, then an SSD would make your PC more noticeably snappy than an i5. Your PC will start faster, launch programs faster, and generally be more responsive.

I would consider the A10, though- Trinity performs quite well when compared to the i3, as these benchmarks show. It often beat the slightly older i3 tested there, so should be about equal to the newer one you're looking at. (Plus the far better integrated graphics would be useful if you ever wanted to, say, reuse the processor in a HTPC.) Not to mention, the FM2 socket has been promised future upgrades from AMD, whereas Intel's LGA-1155 won't get any more updates- so you would be able to reuse your AMD board, but not your Intel board.

I see no point to the A10. You already have a discrete card that performs better than the igp, so there is not point to gaming on the igp. If you add a discrete card, you would have to disable the igp, which sort of defeats the purpose of getting an APU, especially since the i3 will use less power and be faster in single/lightly threaded apps, which aside from gaming appears to be what you would use it for.

 

[NTMBK]

I see no point to the A10. You already have a discrete card that performs better than the igp, so there is not point to gaming on the igp. If you add a discrete card, you would have to disable the igp, which sort of defeats the purpose of getting an APU, especially since the i3 will use less power and be faster in single/lightly threaded apps, which aside from gaming appears to be what you would use it for.

I would have recommended the FX-4300 as the "AMD alternative", but it's actually the same price on Newegg, with a lower turbo speed and no integrated graphics. The A10 is the better buy, with promised further releases on FM2 (unlike AM3+, whose future looks murky at best). As for the IGP, it might come in useful at some point in the future if the processor gets demoted to backup PC/HTPC duty (say, if it gets replaced with a Steamroller or Excavator APU down the line).

As for processor performance outside of gaming- internet browsing won't be CPU limited on any of these processors we're talking about.

It's definitely not an obvious win for the Trinity in this case; I'd still see it as roughly a draw. To be honest I'd base my purchase around what motherboard prices and features look like for both.

EDIT: Took a quick look at the motherboards listed in the OP, the FM2 one seems cheaper and to have marginally better features. But the Intel one is a Z77 board, so I'm sure there are some better value ones out there.

Also, don't forget that the A10 can be overclocked, unlike the i3, if you're that worried about performance.

 

[crya]

i'm gonna go with i3 3220, and then i will buy a new graphic card(7770 propably). if i ever want to upgrade, i will upgrade to i5 or i7.

 

[ther00kie16]

First question should be whether or not you live near a Microcenter or Fry's

 

[crya]

i live in czech republic..

 

[ther00kie16]

i live in czech republic..

It didn't seem as if you lived in the US but you also typed usd, which had me guessing.

At 720p medium detail, almost any Intel CPU will do. Without knowing the prices, it's difficult to recommend anything higher than i3 as it'd probably be out of your budget.

The performance is close enough between the 2 that you can't go wrong with either. The A10 actually idles slightly lower than i3 so if you leave your computer on 24/7, maybe AMD will save a little on electricity.

Overall, i3 is probably safer and you might be able to sell it if you decide to upgrade to i5/i7

 

[Denithor]

If getting an i3 or any of the locked (non K model) i5 chips just go for an H77 or B75 motherboard. These chips don't overclock so no reason to spend the extra cash on a Z series motherboard.

If you are planning to upgrade your GPU I would suggest a 7850 if you can swing it. Stick with the i3 if it means more GPU, that will be more noticeable in games than the i5 with a 7770.