New Computer problems

[imported_nocturne]

Windows setup usually only fails in the case of a hardware error (be sure virus check is disabled in bios also, though).

If you don't have another XP setup disk to try (at least to rule that out), you could try to create a new xp install disk using nlite (google it). Basically, nlite is a program that allows you to alter an xp installation by integrating SP's/hotfixes and allowing the removal of unnecessary features, and then create a bootable ISO image of your created installation. Long story short, you can create a new XP disk of your very own.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Jericho2006
Alright, let's see if you can help me again:

I'm trying to install Windows XP (Original without any service packs) and when it gets to the part of the windows set that says "Setup is starting windows" The system shuts down on me. I'm assuming it's because windows doesn't recognize a HD since I'm running 2 SATA drives. I'm trying to install windows on a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA HD. I downloaded this driver from the ASUS website:

Silicon Image 3132 Serial ATA Driver Disk V1.0.0.9 for Windows 2000/XP/2003.(WHQL)

I put that on a floppy, and installed it when windows asked for it during the initial XP setup and got the reset. I also tried the setup without installing that driver and the same thing happened. Did I get the wrong driver, or does the problem go deeper than that?

Ever see anthing like this?

Thanks

I have a full SATA what's-what on this page, but the short story is that you should

1) unplug your network cable and any wireless network card/antenna, so the computer cannot be pwned by network worms before you're ready

2) unplug all extra hard drives and unplug any USB drives or memory-card readers. You only want your boot drive plugged in at first.

3) plug your drive's SATA cable into any of the SATA ports on the motherboard

4) run Windows Setup and don't press the F6 key or try to give it any special drivers on a floppy

5) Once Windows is installed, install your motherboard drivers from the Asus DVD and reboot. Do NOT plug in the network cable or the wireless network stuff until you first ENABLE THE WINDOWS FIREWALL. If you're not familiar with how to do that, Start > Help > "firewall" and it'll show you where.

6) Once the firewall is enabled, you can hook up to the network and immediately go download the full Service Pack 2 installer and install that right away. Enable your Automatic Updates when it asks if you want to.



"But wait," you say, "I can't even install Windows, period." Try removing that abused floppy drive from the computer completely, and disable the floppy-disk controller on the motherboard by doing so in the BIOS, and see if that gets you anywhere.

FYI, the Silicon Image SATA controller on your motherboard only controls the two external SATA ports, the ones peeking out the back. I assume you aren't hooking your HDDs up to those

 

[imported_nocturne]

In response mechbgon's last message, I would only install XP with SP2 This can be accomplished by slipstreaming sp2 into an installation using nlite (google it). Basically, nlite lets you modify your xp installation (integrate sp's/hotfixes and remove unnecessary features) and create a bootable ISO image that you can burn to a cd.

Personally, I always install XP with a modified installation with SP2 and RyanVM's hotfix pack (basically a downloadable hotfix that contains all current XP hotfixes). If you have any more questions about nlite, pm me.

 

[BruHawk]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: Jericho2006
Alright, let's see if you can help me again:

I'm trying to install Windows XP (Original without any service packs) and when it gets to the part of the windows set that says "Setup is starting windows" The system shuts down on me. I'm assuming it's because windows doesn't recognize a HD since I'm running 2 SATA drives. I'm trying to install windows on a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA HD. I downloaded this driver from the ASUS website:

Silicon Image 3132 Serial ATA Driver Disk V1.0.0.9 for Windows 2000/XP/2003.(WHQL)

I put that on a floppy, and installed it when windows asked for it during the initial XP setup and got the reset. I also tried the setup without installing that driver and the same thing happened. Did I get the wrong driver, or does the problem go deeper than that?

Ever see anthing like this?

Thanks

I have a full SATA what's-what on this page, but the short story is that you should

1) unplug your network cable and any wireless network card/antenna, so the computer cannot be pwned by network worms before you're ready

2) unplug all extra hard drives and unplug any USB drives or memory-card readers. You only want your boot drive plugged in at first.

3) plug your drive's SATA cable into any of the SATA ports on the motherboard

4) run Windows Setup and don't press the F6 key or try to give it any special drivers on a floppy

5) Once Windows is installed, install your motherboard drivers from the Asus DVD and reboot. Do NOT plug in the network cable or the wireless network stuff until you first ENABLE THE WINDOWS FIREWALL. If you're not familiar with how to do that, Start > Help > "firewall" and it'll show you where.

6) Once the firewall is enabled, you can hook up to the network and immediately go download the full Service Pack 2 installer and install that right away. Enable your Automatic Updates when it asks if you want to.



"But wait," you say, "I can't even install Windows, period." Try removing that abused floppy drive from the computer completely, and disable the floppy-disk controller on the motherboard by doing so in the BIOS, and see if that gets you anywhere.

FYI, the Silicon Image SATA controller on your motherboard only controls the two external SATA ports, the ones peeking out the back. I assume you aren't hooking your HDDs up to those

Actually, I'm using 2 internal SATA drives. I realized that the driver I downloaded was for the controller on the back, so I took the Nforce SATA drivers from the CD and put them on my floppy to the same result.

I'll diable the floppy drive and disable my extra HD and see what happens.

From what I've read on the net, this doesn't seem to be a common problem. Most problems feature an error message, not a system shut-down.

I'm somewhat confused and worried about the whole situation. I'm at work, so I won't be able to work on my computer for about 9 hours.

Thanks

 

[BruHawk]

Originally posted by: nocturne
Windows setup usually only fails in the case of a hardware error (be sure virus check is disabled in bios also, though).

If you don't have another XP setup disk to try (at least to rule that out), you could try to create a new xp install disk using nlite (google it). Basically, nlite is a program that allows you to alter an xp installation by integrating SP's/hotfixes and allowing the removal of unnecessary features, and then create a bootable ISO image of your created installation. Long story short, you can create a new XP disk of your very own.

As a sidenote on the hardware error,I've noticed that sometimes my system will start fine, and other times it won't.

When I push the power button, the fans kick in at high RPM. Just before the system starts posting, the fan speed decreases and at that point either:

a) System starts up fine

b) System shuts down

I've checked the voltages, they all are fine and I've checked the connections coming from the power supply and they're all fine.

What do you think the problem could be?

 

[BruHawk]

Another note:

I was just talking to my bro, and he said that he the EXACT same problem when trying to install windows XP on my mom's computer. He was originally trying to use his copy of windows XP, and it shut-down at the same spot. He then used mine and it worked fine. So maybe this is a software related issue.

 

[BruHawk]

First off, I just realzed I've been posting under 2 different names. I have a different user name for at work.

Anywho, just a quick update:

I was fooling around with different bios settings, taking things out of the system that weren't needed at this time (extra HD, extra stick of ram, sound card) and I was able to get to the Windows XP setup where you can choose which partition you want to install Windows on. However, the computer immediately shutdown on me and I haven't been able to get back to that point since.

I also decided to up the voltages to the CPU and RAM. I pumped the voltage of the RAM from 1.97V to 2.5V, but that didn't do anything. I tried to up the voltage to the CPU from 1.37V to 1.45V, but when I did that, the system wouldn't start again until I cleared the CMOS.

I've narrowed it down to a problem with the Mobo or a problem with the power supply. What do you guys think it is?

 

[travisray2004]

I dont think it is the Powersupply.. i think its the motherboard, or possible the HSF or processor.. Sounds like the CPU overheated one to many times.

 

[BruHawk]

Well, the temperature on the CPU is staying steady at 40-45 degrees, so I don't think it's an overheating issue with the CPU.

How would I go about narrowing down the possible culprits?

 

[imported_nocturne]

An easy way to rule out some parts would be to try to boot to a knoppix cd with the HD disconnected.

 

[BruHawk]

What is knoppix? And how exactly will it narrow down my problem?

Thanks