New computer no worky :( *EDIT* SPOT THE NEWB

[StageLeft]

Abit NF7-S, barton 2500+, Kreton 3500 512 memory, gf3 ti-200 AGP, generic 420 W PS.

PROBLEM: The red LED on the board is on. When I power on, the green light comes on and I see the optical light on, the network adapter light on, the CPU fan goes, the mobo's chipset fan goes, and the vid card's fan goes. However, there is no love going into my monitor at all (ie, it won't post).

OK here's what I've got hooked up:

CPU in board. HSF power cord plugged in. HSF CPU fan plugged in. ATX main PWR in. ATX 4-pin in. I've tried it with only the keyboard in and neither the HD or the 3.5 hooked up. I have tried the DIMM in all three slots. I've tried it without the DIMM at all (I wasn't sure if a computer needed that to even get to the post screen). Only jumpers I have hooked up are the PWR switch and RSET switches. I have put the CMOS reset jumper into reset mode for a minute, with the board totally unplugged.

I can't think of anything else. I have a voodoo 3 card (AGP) and an old PCI vid card, but for some pissy reason it looks like PCI and AGP cards changed over the last while, because neither of those will fit in the board.

Thanks for any ideas! Sadly I have absolutely no way to borrow memory or another AGP card or anything like that.

PS if newbiepcuser is reading this don't say a damn word

 

[sdemaio]

What kind of beeps are going on, if any?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: sdemaio
What kind of beeps are going on, if any?

Good question...since the PC speaker is not plugged in I would have to say none Think that plugging it in will help a lot? I have to boot down this comp and move the powerswitch over to try, since I was using my current case plugged into it. Oh yeah, the mobo is sitting on a box, and not in an actual case. That shouldn't matter should it, since it is obviously functioning on some level.

 

[MichaelD]

What's up with that no-name memory?

Anyway. Remove the memory and videocard. Reset the BIOS (again). Install the videocard and memory...wiggle them in the slot a bit.

Reboot and go into the bios. Load the optimized defaults. Give that a shot. If that doesn't work, hold down the Insert key while rebooting...should get you into the bios at least.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
What's up with that no-name memory?

Anyway. Remove the memory and videocard. Reset the BIOS (again). Install the videocard and memory...wiggle them in the slot a bit.

Reboot and go into the bios. Load the optimized defaults. Give that a shot. If that doesn't work, hold down the Insert key while rebooting...should get you into the bios at least.

Actually on the NF7-S series you want to use the Delete key instead to access the BIOS.

And have you tried updating to BIOS 22 Skoorb?

-Por

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: MichaelD
What's up with that no-name memory?

Anyway. Remove the memory and videocard. Reset the BIOS (again). Install the videocard and memory...wiggle them in the slot a bit.

Reboot and go into the bios. Load the optimized defaults. Give that a shot. If that doesn't work, hold down the Insert key while rebooting...should get you into the bios at least.

Actually on the NF7-S series you want to use the Delete key instead to access the BIOS.

And have you tried updating to BIOS 22 Skoorb?

-Por

You misunderstood what I was instructing. I know DEL accesses the bios; that's pretty universal. When the bios wont' boot b/c of a too-high overclock or other probs, holding down the INSERT key will most often get you in. It's been that way on all the Epox boards I've owned, as well as my old Abit KT-7S.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: MichaelD
What's up with that no-name memory?

Anyway. Remove the memory and videocard. Reset the BIOS (again). Install the videocard and memory...wiggle them in the slot a bit.

Reboot and go into the bios. Load the optimized defaults. Give that a shot. If that doesn't work, hold down the Insert key while rebooting...should get you into the bios at least.

Actually on the NF7-S series you want to use the Delete key instead to access the BIOS.

And have you tried updating to BIOS 22 Skoorb?

-Por

You misunderstood what I was instructing. I know DEL accesses the bios; that's pretty universal. When the bios wont' boot b/c of a too-high overclock or other probs, holding down the INSERT key will most often get you in. It's been that way on all the Epox boards I've owned, as well as my old Abit KT-7S.

That's nifty. I'll have to remember that trick...

-Por

 

[mechBgon]

Start by making sure that the AGP card is alllllllllll the way down into Ye Olde AGP Slot. There are two layers of contacts in an AGP slot, and sometimes when they're new they're rather stiff, so don't be shy. Rock it down in there.

PCI slots are PCI slots. If the PCI video card won't fit... well, try again. It darn well better fit, or else no other PCI device is gonna fit either

Also, confirm that you got the keyboard into the correct PS/2 port, the one closer to the mobo surface, and confirm that your power supply is set to 115V and not 230V input. Check monitor cable for bent pins (long shot, but hey).

Also, you did remember to remove the plastic protective slip from the thermal patch, correct? And installed the heatsink the right way? Consult mechBgon's SocketA heatsink-installation guide for photos of what to check.

Personally, I would've avoided the generic PSU like the plague, and gone with RAM that I've actually heard of before. But anyway, good luck there

 

[StageLeft]

Reboot and go into the bios.

I can't! Honestly the AGP is in the buggar hard - the little clip at the back is there all the way in.

What's up with that no-name memory?

I'll upgrade if you paypal me the difference

And have you tried updating to BIOS 22 Skoorb?

Ha! I can't get a damn thing on the screen. How am I going to do that

Oops - I did read about the insert key and just forgot to try. So, I'll hold the insert key in when I power up and see if that works. It said it in the manual

PCI slots are PCI slots. If the PCI video card won't fit... well, try again. It darn well better fit, or else no other PCI device is gonna fit either

I'm tellin ya the damn thing don't fit no slots! I will force it until it fits and if it won't I'll take my sander and sand either the card, or chisel out one of the slots until it does fit.

Also, confirm that you got the keyboard into the correct PS/2 port, the one closer to the mobo surface, and confirm that your power supply is set to 115V and not 230V input. Check monitor cable for bent pins (long shot, but hey).

All covered, and I'm using the monitor right now too!

Also, you did remember to remove the plastic protective slip from the thermal patch, correct? And installed the heatsink the right way? Consult mechBgon's SocketA heatsink-installation guide for photos of what to check.

OMFG. I am a discrace. I won't even tell you what I didn't do. I'll let you guess. I'll be back later when it works, although I deserve for it to be broken now. Thanks guys

 

[mechBgon]

Hehe... I've forgotten before too but don't tell anyone.






As for the PCI video card... it's not, like, an old ISA video card by any chance? That would certainly explain it not fitting. They have much bigger, wider-spaced contacts.

 

[ElFenix]

darn n00b! i don't know why mrsskoorb lets you touch things, shes obviously more technically inclined than you are

 

[screw3d]

ROFL.. skoorbie got owned by a plastic slip! w00t!

 

[screw3d]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Start by making sure that the AGP card is alllllllllll the way down into Ye Olde AGP Slot. There are two layers of contacts in an AGP slot, and sometimes when they're new they're rather stiff, so don't be shy. Rock it down in there.

PCI slots are PCI slots. If the PCI video card won't fit... well, try again. It darn well better fit, or else no other PCI device is gonna fit either

Also, confirm that you got the keyboard into the correct PS/2 port, the one closer to the mobo surface, and confirm that your power supply is set to 115V and not 230V input. Check monitor cable for bent pins (long shot, but hey).

Also, you did remember to remove the plastic protective slip from the thermal patch, correct? And installed the heatsink the right way? Consult mechBgon's SocketA heatsink-installation guide for photos of what to check.

Personally, I would've avoided the generic PSU like the plague, and gone with RAM that I've actually heard of before. But anyway, good luck there

The pics in your heatsink installation guide won't show up on Firefox :frown:

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: screw3d

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Start by making sure that the AGP card is alllllllllll the way down into Ye Olde AGP Slot. There are two layers of contacts in an AGP slot, and sometimes when they're new they're rather stiff, so don't be shy. Rock it down in there.

PCI slots are PCI slots. If the PCI video card won't fit... well, try again. It darn well better fit, or else no other PCI device is gonna fit either

Also, confirm that you got the keyboard into the correct PS/2 port, the one closer to the mobo surface, and confirm that your power supply is set to 115V and not 230V input. Check monitor cable for bent pins (long shot, but hey).

Also, you did remember to remove the plastic protective slip from the thermal patch, correct? And installed the heatsink the right way? Consult mechBgon's SocketA heatsink-installation guide for photos of what to check.

Personally, I would've avoided the generic PSU like the plague, and gone with RAM that I've actually heard of before. But anyway, good luck there

The pics in your heatsink installation guide won't show up on Firefox :frown:

Damnit, no they don't.
*loads up avant*

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: screw3d
ROFL.. skoorbie got owned by a plastic slip! w00t!

ROFL!

I'm sorry about the pics not showing up in Firefox... a mad l33t HTML guy I am not I typed up the stuff in Notepad and have no idea why it would not be showing up. The key ones are these, however: correct and incorrect. Thank goodness the Athlon64 heatsinks are symmetrical, is all I can say

 

[n7]

Meh, firefox is buggy.
That's why i have like...uh too many browsers.

 

[MichaelD]

Heheheh, hey Schmabbles! Now that the heatsink is done bitch-slapping you around...how's it working?

Hey man, we've all done it. Seriously, is it good to go now?

 

[screw3d]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: screw3d
ROFL.. skoorbie got owned by a plastic slip! w00t!

ROFL!

I'm sorry about the pics not showing up in Firefox... a mad l33t HTML guy I am not I typed up the stuff in Notepad and have no idea why it would not be showing up. The key ones are these, however: correct and incorrect. Thank goodness the Athlon64 heatsinks are symmetrical, is all I can say

Fixed the HTML and added some CSS for you YGPM!

 

[StageLeft]

It wasn't the plastic slip, but rather the clip to hold the CPU in place. I just popped it on there and forgot to raise the level and put it back before doing so...

Now I'm downloading all the crap I need

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: screw3d

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: screw3d
ROFL.. skoorbie got owned by a plastic slip! w00t!

ROFL!

I'm sorry about the pics not showing up in Firefox... a mad l33t HTML guy I am not I typed up the stuff in Notepad and have no idea why it would not be showing up. The key ones are these, however: correct and incorrect. Thank goodness the Athlon64 heatsinks are symmetrical, is all I can say

Fixed the HTML and added some CSS for you YGPM!

Thanks screw3d, you da man!

 

[farscape]

If you never moved the lever, how did you avoid mashing every pin on the CPU when you clamped down on the HSF?

Welcome back to the builder's club!!

'scape

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: farscape
If you never moved the lever, how did you avoid mashing every pin on the CPU when you clamped down on the HSF?

Welcome back to the builder's club!!

'scape

That's a question I'd also like answered, but I simply put it on there (I've installed a lot of CPUs in the past, but it's been so long that I was rushing and not thinking properly on the matter). Not surprisingly the heatsink was a buggar to put on, but I managed to get it on there pretty hard. But, when I took it off and installed the CPU properly each pin was perfect and where it should have been...

 

[MichaelD]

Man, did you get LUCKY! :Q By all rights, all the pins on the CPU should've been smashed. I'm glad it worked out.

 

[Texun]

Yea, but you know this is a lesson you will never repeat, it happens to all of us.

There should be a thread for the most embarrassing mistakes. We've all made them so no one would be immune. Not all that long ago I fought with an Abit board for hours only to find that I had the CMOS jumper on bass-ackwards. I knew better I but did it ANYWAY.