New computer fails at 5 seconds

Guerrilladawg

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I assembled an SB i3-2100 with the following mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813130570

Everything is connected.

When starting up: dvd, gpu fan, cpu fan, case fan, hdd and mobo lights work but after 5 seconds i hear a beep and it shuts of...and two seconds later it boots up again etc,..

I only found one 4pin on the mobo and I used an 8pin from my Corsair Builder 500W (it only has 2x 6pin and 1x 8pin)
 

pete1229

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Did you try taking out the gpu and using the o/b graphics to see if it boots? Also a memory test?
 

Guerrilladawg

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Tried without GPU

Tried after pulling out mobo battery for a minute

tried without dvd/hdd

All of these have the same result.

I can't even reach any screen at all so a memory test is impossible. I did notice the moment it shuts down is the exact same time I hear a small "beep"
 
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Can you try it with a different PSU that has a 4-pin motherboard connector? (even though it shouldn't matter). How about reseating the processor?
 

Guerrilladawg

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I can try reseating the CPU tomorrow (as it's 0:26 am here) but something tells me it's not cpu-related.

The only thing I noticed while seating the cpu was that I had to use a little force on the lever. I would also swear the metal made a tiny line in the cpu (is this normal?)

Also, I found out I can split the 8pin cable in two 4 pin's so that problem is solved (although it did NOT change anything)
 

pete1229

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Your problem may be with the cpu now that you mention that you had to use a little force on the lever. A ZIF should not require any force at all. I would check the cpu for any bent or broken pins, then go from there. And sorry but I gotta ask, did you use thermal paste and the correct amount of it?
 
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BoomerD

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Your problem may be with the cpu now that you mention that you had to use a little force on the lever. A ZIF should not require any force at all. I would check the cpu for any bent or broken pins, then go from there. And sorry but I gotta ask, did you use thermal paste and the correct amount of it?

Take everything apart, including removing the board from the case. Inspect the CPU/socket for bent pins. If none are found, reinstall CPU, HSF, RAM, and video card on a non-conductive surface...see if it will boot.

I've seen this kind of thing caused as often by a bad ground/incorrect placement of a stand-off as by a bent pin/bad CPU.
 

fx_rage

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This is called a dual boot, it's very common for the new sandy bridge series. Google it and a lot of fixes will come up, it's extremely annoying.
 

Guerrilladawg

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Ehm, dual boot is having a system with 2x OS installed as far as I know? :/ I get the same results on google aswell.
 

Guerrilladawg

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stuck like hell now.

I've plugged EVERYTHING out and reseated the cpu and cpu cooler.

I then placed it on cardboard and tried to boot it with only the cpu. EXACT same problem again.

Also tried with my brother's PSU.

There are 4 LEDs on the mobo (indication of CPU power) and all 4 of them light up, but go out again after those 5 seconds
 

BoomerD

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It won't boot with only the CPU. You need the heat sink & fan, at least one stick of RAM, and your video card. (in this case, the on-board video will suffice)

I only found one 4pin on the mobo and I used an 8pin from my Corsair Builder 500W (it only has 2x 6pin and 1x 8pin)

The 2x6 pin connectors should be the Pci-E connectors and the 1X8 pin, (2x4) should be for the motherboard's EPS12V connector. Many are just 2-2x2 pin connectors that can be separated for a single 2x2 such as this board has.
 

Guerrilladawg

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Don't think it's double boot, as that is related to OC settings or people who've been booting succesfully before it. I never reached any screen at all

I will try booting again (my latest test was with heatsink/fan but without ram stick)

I don't think it'll change anything.

It seems like a RMA :(
 

BoomerD

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It may well be a RMA issue, but it definitely won't boot without at least one stick of ram in whichever slot is appropriate for single stick use. (consult your manual)
 

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Your problem may be with the cpu now that you mention that you had to use a little force on the lever. A ZIF should not require any force at all. I would check the cpu for any bent or broken pins, then go from there. And sorry but I gotta ask, did you use thermal paste and the correct amount of it?

There are no pins on the CPU, they are all on the board...also, its pretty common for these to need a bit of force to close the lever, quite often you can hear stuff crunching...its very unsettling, but that's just how they are ..
Anyone who has built a few systems knows what I mean.....you would swear your breaking stuff when you close those levers, but its just the pins on the board making contact with the CPU.
 

john3850

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On every new mb with new c2d or 1366 CPU I had to put light pressure to close the locking lever and they all made a slight noise.

Always run off any new MB out of case to avoid shorts.
Jump out the start pins to avoid wrong wiring or a bad start switch.
Most of the time it turns out to be your memory doesn't like you MB.
Go to msi. com and check your memory to see if it is compatible
I avoid cheap memory and will always keep 1 stick of ddr3 1.5v and 1 ddr2 1.8v
If your memory is listed as 1.65volts and bios defaults to 1.5volt pc may not start.
 
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I have extra ddr2 lying around, but I'm not exactly sure if SB accepts ddr2 (I think not?)

I believe John is just referring to JEDEC standard voltages. DDR3's standard voltage is 1.5V, DDR2 is 1.8V. But some DDR3 modules sold are rated at 1.55-1.65V, and might cause problems in some systems.

Don't try to stick DDR2 in a DDR3 slot - it's not a good idea.
 

john3850

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What I mean is to try a different stick of ddr 3 rated at 1.5 volts.
Go to msi. com and check your memory to see if it is compatible.
If your memory isnt listed on the msi comparable list buy or borrow 1 stick of 1.5volt ddr 3 to try.
Some times the ps could be at fault
I have a msi mb home that will not start with a certain 500amp ps.but will start on any other ps.
Any other pc will start on that 500amp ps but the msi wont {strange}
 

kamikazekyle

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What I mean is to try a different stick of ddr 3 rated at 1.5 volts.
Go to msi. com and check your memory to see if it is compatible.
If your memory isnt listed on the msi comparable list buy or borrow 1 stick of 1.5volt ddr 3 to try.
Some times the ps could be at fault
I have a msi mb home that will not start with a certain 500amp ps.but will start on any other ps.
Any other pc will start on that 500amp ps but the msi wont {strange}

I'll second this (at least the memory portion). I can't view what mobo you're using since the ad redirect link fails here with our proxy, but my MSI P67A-G43 (B3) mobo had the exact same symptoms with plain Ripjaws memory. Yet the Ripjaws X version worked just fine. The mobo still sees the non-X version if I boot using the X-version in the first bank and the non-X in the second bank. Weird as all hell since as far as I know the only difference between the two is a little faster timings on the X.