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[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: srjrol
I am not looking to get out cheap necessarily. Is the 3500+ easily overclockable as well?
I thought the timing on the memory was supposed to make a major difference...am I wrong about this? Can anyone recommend a good 2gig pack of fast memory for about 200?

timings have almost no effect on an athlon 64.

get 2 gigs of regular cas 2.5 value ram, get the 3000 over the 3500 and OC it to 3500 speeds. then you would havea rig for the same price as you posted, but way better.

On the top of the CPU/OVerclocking forums, there is a sticky showing that timings ARE good for the AMD 64s.

Uh. No.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1475190&enterthread=y

Some Games = very slight benefit to using expensive high bandwidth TCCD or expensive LL ram Like Ballistix over value ram. Winrar sees major benefit though, 41% top to bottom.

LAME, Cinebench, ScienceMark, PiFast, Superpi, POV-Ray, DVDShrink shows no or infinitesmal boost above Value ram.

I'd get the OCZ Value VX for $100 or something like that. Other value ram (ex: Corsair ValueSelect) won't work with the DFI LanParty board.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: srjrol
I am not looking to get out cheap necessarily. Is the 3500+ easily overclockable as well?
I thought the timing on the memory was supposed to make a major difference...am I wrong about this? Can anyone recommend a good 2gig pack of fast memory for about 200?

timings have almost no effect on an athlon 64.

get 2 gigs of regular cas 2.5 value ram, get the 3000 over the 3500 and OC it to 3500 speeds. then you would havea rig for the same price as you posted, but way better.

On the top of the CPU/OVerclocking forums, there is a sticky showing that timings ARE good for the AMD 64s.

actually, it doesnt. re-read that post. In nearly all of his benchmarks, timings made only a couple % performance difference. only in a couple select programs did they really matter. Games especially, there is not much difference at all.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: krnxpride83
the BEST bang for the buck is $117 amd 3000 venice clocked to 2.7-2.8ghz on $112 dfi lanparty w/ $138 OCZ Gold "utt/bh-5" ram w/ 2-2-2-5...

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?src=eb&name=A64-3000BP
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110799
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227211

how does that particular 3000 overclock?

Or is that the one in your sig.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: krnxpride83
the BEST bang for the buck is $117 amd 3000 venice clocked to 2.7-2.8ghz on $112 dfi lanparty w/ $138 OCZ Gold "utt/bh-5" ram w/ 2-2-2-5...

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?src=eb&name=A64-3000BP
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110799
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227211

how does that particular 3000 overclock?

Or is that the one in your sig.

2nd best chip I have ever owned.

 

[Mistabullet]

If your gonna go with ATI then I suggest you get some cheap mobo with an x300 until ATI brings out their crossfire mobo's

I'm probably gonna get this one