New COD Ghosts single player trailer

SAWYER

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I havent been interested in COD in awhile but this looks so over the top that I want to play it now, the space gun battle...what?!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SumIZb6qMJw&feature=player_embedded
 

smackababy

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Well, the guns should work better in space. No air resistance means nothing slowing the bullet except gravity (because we can't fire it with enough force to break the sun's gravity yet).
 

purbeast0

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i had no plans on getting another cod game, but i was then thinking about how much fun i had with cod2 at launch of 360 so i think im gonna snag this game just to have a new fps game to play.

i wish they made another game like cod2, where they didn't have all this fluff/perks bullshit. but i know those days are over so i might as well adapt! i have yet to play an fps on my 120" screen so x1 is probably a good time to try it out!
 

smackababy

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COD 2 was a lot of fun, but the Germans were OP. Also, I loved "cooking" grenades by throwing them in super high arcs.
 

sweenish

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Well, the guns should work better in space. No air resistance means nothing slowing the bullet except gravity (because we can't fire it with enough force to break the sun's gravity yet).

No oxygen == no explosion for bullets to be propelled in the first place.

In any case, the squads feature actually has me excited for this release.
 

RedRooster

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That looks really great and dramatic! I may just pick that up later on to experience the single player. Its gonna be pretty hard to tear me away from BF4s strategic MP though. You pretty much have to pick one and stick with it if you want to stay competitive, that's the sucky thing.
 

cmdrdredd

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I hope it doesn't look as silly as it did in that video though. Maybe it's me but the way they presented the space stuff looked cheesy.
 
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Sulaco

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I hope it doesn't look as silly as it did in that video though. Maybe it's me but the way they presented the space stuff looked cheesy.

Understatement of the century...?

That was Moonraker level stupid. But Moonraker reveled in the Bond/70's camp factor. I feel dumber having witnessed that.

Astronauts. In EVA suits. With machine guns. In space.
 

BrightCandle

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While bullets don't need air the gun does. The expanding gases aren't sufficient to cycle the gun properly so it won't camber the next round properly. Space would turn most guns into manual fire ones. Maybe a very high tolerance gun like an ak might cycle sometimes. Most don't work under water because the gas recycle is full of water, empty would be equally problematic.
 

cmdrdredd

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Understatement of the century...?

That was Moonraker level stupid. But Moonraker reveled in the Bond/70's camp factor. I feel dumber having witnessed that.

Astronauts. In EVA suits. With machine guns. In space.

Well it may be a cool idea for multiplayer, low gravity etc. I just mean the video, the part in space, looked weird. It was only a few seconds but the debris floating around looked unnatural and seemed to react to gravity when there is none. At least the very beginning part with the pieces rolling along the hull or whatever it was.

We shall see.
 

Tweak155

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I've never been a big CoD fan but this one actually looks good. Also the graphics were pretty good if that was console video.
 

cmdrdredd

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I've never been a big CoD fan but this one actually looks good. Also the graphics were pretty good if that was console video.

I believe it was footage from the PC but cannot confirm. Doesn't Ghosts use physx too?
 

Nintendesert

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While bullets don't need air the gun does. The expanding gases aren't sufficient to cycle the gun properly so it won't camber the next round properly. Space would turn most guns into manual fire ones. Maybe a very high tolerance gun like an ak might cycle sometimes. Most don't work under water because the gas recycle is full of water, empty would be equally problematic.



You know that's not correct. Guns don't even use the full amount of gases released from the ammunition being fired to cycle the weapon. There would be plenty of expanding gases to drive a bolt back. Many guns even have release valves to prevent too much gas being driven back into the gas system and putting too much strain on the metal, reducing life.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-operated_reloading

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51085

Here's a thread with people discussing the gas plug on an M14 if you'd like to learn more about it.

You can look at how much residual atmosphere would be present in a gun gas system and it's next to nothing in the Wiki animations. More gas is produced by the explosion of the bullet than is ever needed to operate the gas system. These systems are designed to use the expanding gas of the fired round to cycle, not the atmosphere. A semi-automatic weapon would fire just fine.

The issue is temperature and vacuum. A gun would have no way of losing temperature without a more sophisticated cooling system. Each round fired would add to it and it would almost never decrease, after just a few rounds that weapon will start to glow and eventually melt. Most weapons now are cooled by convection cooling. The air around them cools the weapon.

In space those weapons would be in vacuum. Unlike Sci-Fi movies where people freeze when they're in space, that would take quite a long time. It's like a thermos. A perfect vacuum would allow those objects to retain their heat. Guns would have no method without a new system such as a water block or something like that, to remove heat.

On to the trailer, I'm excited to see the Transformers in this one. You can hear it at 2:08. I wonder if the dog is actually a transformer? :thumbsup:
 

Tweak155

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Geez guys, its a video game. Guns fire in space in that context. Enough derailment.
 

Demoralized

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Don't card much for COD multiplayer anymore but I always enjoy the single player campaign. Should have my new rig built just in time for this and BF4.
 

Nintendesert

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Geez guys, its a video game. Guns fire in space in that context. Enough derailment.




How is that a derailment?? It's COD in space and we're talking about them firing in space. What shall we talk about? We're talking about the merits of the trailer and the game setting.

OK.


How about we just laugh and call this one: Call of Duty: Red Dawn Edition.

:rolleyes:
 

smackababy

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How is that a derailment?? It's COD in space and we're talking about them firing in space. What shall we talk about? We're talking about the merits of the trailer and the game setting.

OK.


How about we just laugh and call this one: Call of Duty: Red Dawn Edition.

:rolleyes:

I didn't watch the trailer, but does it have sound? We could also discuss the merits of it being silent while in space.
 

Nintendesert

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I didn't watch the trailer, but does it have sound? We could also discuss the merits of it being silent while in space.



Yeah unfortunately. Though it would be interesting to figure out what you'd hear as the vibrations move through the suits, the metal and anything else in contact with the gun.

They added explosion sounds though. :'(

Hopefully the story is better than the trailer lets on, it's like a bad James Bond plot tossed into Homefront. Though it's almost a mirror for the latest Red Dawn movie.

As long as we keep the transformer dog we're gonna be ok though.