New Chicago Handgun Law was approved

[xj0hnx]

"Conclusion: Household firearm ownership levels are strongly associated with higher rates of suicide, consistent with the hypothesis that the availability of lethal means increases the rate of completed suicide. "

That wording is awesome. Firearm ownership associated with rates of suicide (note for the population of this study). Conclusion: Who'd a thunk! People with a way to kill themselves are more likely to do so successfully!

Haha, yip. It's just a fancy explanation for guns being a more successful way for people to kill themselves.

Of course that's just the abstract, and not the study with actual results, and it uses a couple suspect phrases that make it irrelevant like ...

"US residents of all ages and both sexes are more likely to die from suicide when they live in areas where more households contain firearms."

ZOMG I might die of suicide because there's a lot of guns in TExas!!!!1

 

[Kirby]

LOL @ classy

 

[xj0hnx]

Guns are used to kill bad people.

Washington DC has a gun ban, and this was the murder capital of the US for a few years.
New York City has a gun ban. Way too many bad people there too.

Vermont has some of the most relaxed gun laws in the US, and yet the crime rate is very low. Across the board, crime in Vermont is below the national average. Violent crimes in Vermont are about 1/4 the national average.
http://nicic.gov/features/statestats/?state=vt
Maybe people in Vermont are just genetically better than the rest of the US. Who knows.

Stop putting his statistics into context, you'll give him an aneurysm.

 

[classy]

Again, Classy, you fail reading comprehension.

Firearms are used in only 5 percent of attempts, the study said, even though, with a 90 percent fatality rate, they cause more than half the deaths. So even a small decline in the number of attempts involving guns could mean many fewer deaths, the researchers said.

The gun does not form the intent, even though it DOES get the job done better.

Your point is moot, as is this study. In fact, out of seven studies I have seen, this is the only one to come to this finding.

No maybe you don't understand. Yea, lets not scrutinize the thing that is used only 5% of the time, but has a 90% success rate, and results in more than half of the deaths. You know I am happy I don't understand, can't read, or interpret anything correctly. May God continue to bless me so I never ever think like you or the rest of you. In this I am blessed.

 

[bfdd]

Classy, The United States is 41st in terms of suicide rate in the world. There's 40 countries with higher suicide rates than the USA. A lot of those have rather strict gun control laws or don't allow their citizens to own guns at all. So what the fuck are you talking about? There is far more evidence to show that if someone wants to commit suicide nothing is going to stop them, having or not having a gun isn't going to stop someone.

 

[classy]

LOL @ classy

Now I am going to say it again. Here lately when I have posted and said things just like this, some of the folks went crying and I ended up with PMs. So now if you can't take it don't dish it.

 

[bfdd]

No maybe you don't understand. Yea, lets not scrutinize the thing that is used only 5% of the time, but has a 90% success rate, and results in more than half of the deaths. You know I am happy I don't understand, can't read, or interpret anything correctly. May God continue to bless me so I never ever think like you or the rest of you. In this I am blessed.

No you're just a moron, but if you're ok with being a moron more power to you.

 

[chucky2]

Let me get this straight:

We should F over law abiding citizens being able to own firearms because some people that want to take their own life are highly successful at it when they use a gun vs. some other method?

What total F'ing idiot would go with that logic???

If we take away every gun and people who want to commit suicide start using steak knives, or cars, or poison, are we going to ban all that too?

Good lord, classy votes...the truly scary thing here...

Chuck

 

[classy]

LOL @ classy

Now I see you are from Alabama, now I know you like banging animals and your first cousin, but I am from the north, we are not into that kind of stuff up here.

 

[bfdd]

Now I see you are from Alabama, now I know you like banging animals and your first cousin, but I am from the north, we are not into that kind of stuff up here.

so you're a bigot too huh?

 

[classy]

No you're just a moron, but if you're ok with being a moron more power to you.

I am ok with it.
Thank You very much. Is that ll you had to say?

 

[Kirby]

Now I am going to say it again. Here lately when I have posted and said things just like this, some of the folks went crying and I ended up with PMs. So now if you can't take it don't dish it.

 

[classy]

so you're a bigot too huh?

Bigot? How do you equate what I posted as being a bigoted. Stay on point. This meltdown in face of facts posted from the CDC is quite amusing.

 

[ShawnD1]

ZOMG I might die of suicide because there's a lot of guns in TExas!!!!1

http://www.nmha.org/go/state-ranking
Highest suicide rate is Alaska. Makes sense. I'd kill myself too if I lived in a place where people would elect Sarah Palin.

What's interesting about trying to stop people from killing themselves is that you're basically forcing that person to live even though they don't enjoy life. That's like being the bully who forces kids to eat worms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_die

 

[Kirby]

Now I see you are from Alabama, now I know you like banging animals and your first cousin, but I am from the north, we are not into that kind of stuff up here.

Stay classy,.... EDIT..... door.


Your language in this post is way over the line and has been edited out.

Anandtech Admin
Red Dawn

 

[Zargon]

Understand stats? They are black and white, plain as day. I read most of the entire report. The numbers are so clear and they are listed in graphs with clear explanation. You have a problem with them, I don't. The CDC is not pro-gun or anti-gun. As for suicide, I included those numbers, because its just not accidental shootings we have to deal with when a gun is in the home. I am ok with people being pro-gun, what I don't like is people being fracking liars and making shit up.

ROFL not even close

figures never lie, but liars do figure

after being involved in how the government collects other types of statistics, like racial profiling figures, I can say without a doubt that I would NEVER trust them. Ever. The policies are set up by people without a clue of how you should collect data or report it. the data is filthy and skewed, generally to further someones agenda.

 

[Zargon]

http://www.nmha.org/go/state-ranking
Highest suicide rate is Alaska. Makes sense. I'd kill myself too if I lived in a place where people would elect Sarah Palin.

yeah ..............I'm sure thats it

 

[classy]

ROFL not even close

figures never lie, but liars do figure

after being involved in how the government collects other types of statistics, like racial profiling figures, I can say without a doubt that I would NEVER trust them. Ever. The policies are set up by people without a clue of how you should collect data or report it. the data is filthy and skewed, generally to further someones agenda.

This has already been said, but I think I can trust the CDC.

 

[xj0hnx]

This has already been said, but I think I can trust the CDC.

Even if their numbers are correct you have tried using them in completely false, and out of context ways. Your blanket statement of guns kill people is patently false.

 

[Moonbeam]

Post #72




They have a complete ban, yet their suicide rate is many times that of the US.


I thought I had propery covered my bases for your future argument. I guess I didnt get through your thick skull.

Good fucking thing too they have that ban because if you add in all the more suicides there would be if the Japanese had guns there wouldn't be any Japanese left.

 

[xj0hnx]

Here's an interesting article about the Japanese and gun control ...

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Control.htm

 

[Moonbeam]

Classy, The United States is 41st in terms of suicide rate in the world. There's 40 countries with higher suicide rates than the USA. A lot of those have rather strict gun control laws or don't allow their citizens to own guns at all. So what the fuck are you talking about? There is far more evidence to show that if someone wants to commit suicide nothing is going to stop them, having or not having a gun isn't going to stop someone.

You mean I couldn't stop you from suicide by horse whipping you with a pistol. And I saved my girlfriend from killing herself with some selectively applied torture. She has vowed on an oath to God she won't kill herself until she gets even.

 

[classy]

Even if their numbers are correct you have tried using them in completely false, and out of context ways. Your blanket statement of guns kill people is patently false.

Out of context? I posted numbers from graphs with explanantions. A link to the entire report and graphs. I added nothing. The only laughable thing is the meltdown of you guys. I have laughed so hard I had tears. Show me where I posted that blanket statement? I have blamed society not the gun. But if I can't stifle society I better take away what they are using. Unfortunately its that precious gun. But all these arguments are same as drunk driving and smoking. Its only a matter of time. Soon or later they will peel most if not all those guns from yall's cold dead fingers, lol.

 

[classy]

Here's an interesting article about the Japanese and gun control ...

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Control.htm

We don't live in Japan and why is this source of info more trust worthy than the CDC?

 

[Kirby]

Here's an interesting article about the Japanese and gun control ...

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Control.htm

I think if anyone was familiar with the homogeneous culture of Japan they'd understand Japanese gun laws.