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NutBucket

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Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: feelingshorter
BLAH! CDMA...funny how verizon spent billions on a optical network and yet they dont update to GSM....
Update to GSM? Get your facts straight.

While I agree CDMA phones lag behind GSM features wise as a a technology CDMA is far more advanced than GSM. GSM is just now catching up to CDMA in areas such as data speed. BTW, I don't see any GSM providers offering any sort of direct-connect service.

You seem to be forgetting Cingular's Push-To-Talk (PTT) which indeed runs on their "nations largest network", which in fact is GSM. http://cingular.com/pushtotalk

I wouldn't go as far as saying CDMA is more advanced than GSM, they each have their advantages and disadvantages. CDMA does however currently offer slighly better SQ and faster data than GSM (EVDO is faster than EDGE), but if im not mistaken Cingular will soon be rolling out their UTMS data service (in fact i think they are already testing it in a few markets) than will match if not exceed the EVDO speed Verizon offers. Also, GSM provides the advantage of SIM cards which allow you to swap phones to your hearts content, without having to get your phone reprogrammed each time and without losing all your contacts.

Personally, I'm sticking with GSM until WCDMA hits the states.
Well, then I did forget about that one;)

I think the new revision of EVDO is going to be ridiculously fast. Suppose to be deployed soon.
 

Lonyo

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If the Motorola menus are anything like on the SLVR, AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS.
The interface on the SLVR is absolute crap.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
e815

i have an e815 and i like it.

i have big hands and its a decent sized phone. to me, its not too big to put in a pocket or anything like that. volumes are loud - ringer, earpiece, and speakerphone. nice big screen too.

if you get it through verizon, there are no games on it. you have to pay to get some.
several features are disabled by verizon also, like bluetooth. there are hacks out there to enable this stuff and it is pretty easy. i did it to my phone.


Features disabled? Double Yew Tee Eff!!!
Why would they disable such a useful thing as bluetooth?
What else is disabled?

actually its file transfer with the bluetooth, not all bluetooth functionality, sorry i didn't make that clearer before.

Dial up networking and enabling the multimedia studio so you can copy files to and from the phone via bluetooth or usb cable.
 

BrokenVisage

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I'm about the pick up the t809 FAR w/ 1yr activation.. you should consider this phone while it's FAR!
 

sao123

Lifer
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im going to the verizon store today, so im going to look hard at the E815...
but ill probably compare it to the Lg8100
especially since my old phone is a LG4500 and they will be so similar.
 

slpaulson

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Jun 5, 2000
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If you use vibrate mode all the time you might not like the e815.... if I'm walking I usually don't notice it vibrating. It's way too weak. Other than that I like the phone.
 

feelingshorter

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Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: feelingshorter
BLAH! CDMA...funny how verizon spent billions on a optical network and yet they dont update to GSM....
Update to GSM? Get your facts straight.

While I agree CDMA phones lag behind GSM features wise as a a technology CDMA is far more advanced than GSM. GSM is just now catching up to CDMA in areas such as data speed. BTW, I don't see any GSM providers offering any sort of direct-connect service.

You seem to be forgetting Cingular's Push-To-Talk (PTT) which indeed runs on their "nations largest network", which in fact is GSM. http://cingular.com/pushtotalk

I wouldn't go as far as saying CDMA is more advanced than GSM, they each have their advantages and disadvantages. CDMA does however currently offer slighly better SQ and faster data than GSM (EVDO is faster than EDGE), but if im not mistaken Cingular will soon be rolling out their UTMS data service (in fact i think they are already testing it in a few markets) than will match if not exceed the EVDO speed Verizon offers. Also, GSM provides the advantage of SIM cards which allow you to swap phones to your hearts content, without having to get your phone reprogrammed each time and without losing all your contacts.

Personally, I'm sticking with GSM until WCDMA hits the states.

exactly, sims cards are a great invention, and if CDMA is so good then why is most services using GSM?
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: feelingshorter
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: feelingshorter
BLAH! CDMA...funny how verizon spent billions on a optical network and yet they dont update to GSM....
Update to GSM? Get your facts straight.

While I agree CDMA phones lag behind GSM features wise as a a technology CDMA is far more advanced than GSM. GSM is just now catching up to CDMA in areas such as data speed. BTW, I don't see any GSM providers offering any sort of direct-connect service.

You seem to be forgetting Cingular's Push-To-Talk (PTT) which indeed runs on their "nations largest network", which in fact is GSM. http://cingular.com/pushtotalk

I wouldn't go as far as saying CDMA is more advanced than GSM, they each have their advantages and disadvantages. CDMA does however currently offer slighly better SQ and faster data than GSM (EVDO is faster than EDGE), but if im not mistaken Cingular will soon be rolling out their UTMS data service (in fact i think they are already testing it in a few markets) than will match if not exceed the EVDO speed Verizon offers. Also, GSM provides the advantage of SIM cards which allow you to swap phones to your hearts content, without having to get your phone reprogrammed each time and without losing all your contacts.

Personally, I'm sticking with GSM until WCDMA hits the states.

exactly, sims cards are a great invention, and if CDMA is so good then why is most services using GSM?

oh ya, because we KNOW the better technology always wins. vhs vs betamax anyone? :roll:

cdma2000 is true 3G, cdma that verizon / sprint uses in the US is currently 2.5 G. once true 3g cdma is rolled out, EVDO will be over 2 mps vs 400 to 600 kps they offer now.

forgot to add

WCDMA is very close to CDMA2000 if i remember correctly.

and isn't GSM TDMA based?
 

NutBucket

Lifer
Aug 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
and isn't GSM TDMA based?
Yes it is.

BTW, CDMA offering better SQ isn't that important? Considering its a phone what is more important? Lets see, CDMA offers more coverage, better sound quality and higher data speeds. Sounds like a winner to me.