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hardcore_gamer29

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hi i have a coolermaster elite 431 plus cabinet i want to replace my front fan as it is only 1000rpm please suggest which 1 to get thanks
 

lehtv

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1000 RPM not loud enough for you? ;)

If you want to improve cooling, add exhaust fans. The case by default does not have exhaust fans. I would suggest one 1000RPM or lower 120mm fan in the rear slot and optionally another one on the top slot.

If you still want to replace the front fan... well, the front location supports 140mm, so instead of replacing it with a higher RPM 120mm fan, I would suggest using a 140mm fan at about 800RPM.
 

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thanks brother i dont think this cabby supports 140mm and currently i have 1 rear fan 120mm 2000rpm 1 top fan 1000rpm 120mm and 1 dront 120mm 1000rpm i want to change front becoz i am getting wd black hdd so low rpm 140mm or 120mm 2000rpm?
 

lehtv

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The specs page for the Elite 431 Plus says the front slot supports 140mm.

I don't understand why you want to upgrade your fans. You already have plenty of airflow. Are you sure your components getting too hot? I'd suggest checking with HWinfo64 or CPUID HWMonitor.

I also don't understand what the WD Black hard disk has to do with anything.

This oughta do it. ():)
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lehtv

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WD Black is like any other 7200 RPM drive. You don't need any special cooling for it, trust me.

Also you may be interested to know this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive_failure#Modes_of_failure
A 2007 study published by Google suggested very little correlation between failure rates and either high temperature or activity level. Indeed, the Google study indicated that "lower temperatures are associated with higher failure rates". Hard drives with S.M.A.R.T.-reported average temperatures below 27 °C (81 °F) had higher failure rates than hard drives with the highest reported average temperature of 50 °C (122 °F), failure rates at least twice as high as the optimum S.M.A.R.T.-reported temperature range of 36 °C (97 °F) to 47 °C (117 °F).
Upgrading that fan could very well make the WD Black less reliable, even if only a bit.
 
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hardcore_gamer29

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Upgrading that fan could very well make the WD Black less reliable what do u mean a fan can cause hardware failure?
 

lehtv

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If you read carefully the quoted text I posted above, you'll understand that hard drives have a temperature range where they are least likely to malfunction or fail. Since the temperatures in that range are rather high (up to 47 °C), cooling a hard drive excessively can make it more likely to fail.

It's not that "using a fan makes hardware fail". This only applies to hard drives, not other computer components. And using a high RPM fan is one way to achieve low temperatures, but not the only way.

A more accurate statement: Low temperatures don't exactly kill hard drives - they make it slightly more likely for the hard drive to fail prematurely. Cooling your hard drive with a lot of airflow can push the temperature below the optimum range where hard drive failure is least likely.

What all this means for the end user is this: don't worry much about cooling your hard disk unless you live in a very hot environment.
 
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aLphaNERD

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i just bought 3 AeroCool Shark 140mm fans and they are a beast... Dropped my temps by 10 degrees on everything....
 

lehtv

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What did you upgrade from and what hardware are you running? What case? 10 degrees is a huge drop, kinda hard to believe. Assuming that's °C and not °F
 

aLphaNERD

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I bought the corsair carbide air 540 and took the stock fans out.. I have the i7 2600k as well as 2 gtx 570's.
 

lehtv

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So you replaced the three default 140mm @ 1000RPM Corsair AF140L fans with three 140mm @ 1500RPM Aerocool Shark fans, and got 10 °C lower temperatures all around? Wow, how bout that..