New cars with the longest ranges?

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TraumaRN

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I have a 2010 Fusion Hybrid and I can easily get 600 miles a tank. Usually a bit over 700.

Gentle city driving can push 800 miles on a tank with light use of the A/C. Best all city tank was 901.2 miles. Car has a 17.5 gallon tank I put 17.4 gallons in that fill up!

Best all highway tank was driving from just south of Detroit and finally refueling just outside of Columbia South Carolina. About 710 miles. Drove to D.C. from my house south of Detroit and still had almost a 1/4 tank left. Love this car.

If the new Fusion Hybrid has the same size gas tank it'll easily top 600 miles.
 

A5

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It's well outside the EPA numbers, though.

19/23/31

Yeah, no one is going to beat the EPA estimate by 35% when driving "hard" in the city in a 4000 lb car with a 3.6L V6. I'm guessing the poster had more highway miles on that tank than he thought.
 
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Is the difference between 500 miles per tank and 800 miles per tank really THAT big of a deal? At 80mph, you're talking 6+ hours on a 500 mile tank.
 

A5

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Is the difference between 500 miles per tank and 800 miles per tank really THAT big of a deal? At 80mph, you're talking 6+ hours on a 500 mile tank.

Ha yeah. I like to stop every 3-4 hours to stretch my legs anyway. I don't understand the people that can drive like 10 hours straight without getting out of the seat.
 

LTC8K6

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Ha yeah. I like to stop every 3-4 hours to stretch my legs anyway. I don't understand the people that can drive like 10 hours straight without getting out of the seat.

Heck, you shouldn't sit for that long anyway. You should get up and move around every few hours, especially if you aren't 21 anymore...
 

Kaido

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Is the difference between 500 miles per tank and 800 miles per tank really THAT big of a deal? At 80mph, you're talking 6+ hours on a 500 mile tank.

For me, it's not about long stretches, it's about having to stop. I work long hours, 6 days a week typically, and sometimes fill up twice a week...it's just a minor annoyance.
 

Kaido

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If you want to not be lulled into boredom with the new car, consider the 2012 Charger v6 with 8-speed tranny. I'm getting 33-37 mpg on the highway. 19 gallon tank. 25 city if you're driving hard. Almost 30 if you're gentle (not that gentle).

Wow EIGHT speed transmission? Holy cow!! :awe:
 

nerp

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Yeah, no one is going to beat the EPA estimate by 35% when driving "hard" in the city in a 4000 lb car with a 3.6L V6. I'm guessing the poster had more highway miles on that tank than he thought.

Nope. It's the 8 speed tranny. Again, stop guessing. I get between 25-30 in the city driving fairly aggressively. 31-38 on the highway if I'm not passing too many people. Shave 2-5 mpg off if I'm driving REALLY hard. The EPA numbers are much lower than real world conditions. Since I've broken in the engine, I'm beating EPA handily.

Maybe you guys are looking at the EPA numbers for the non 8-speed Chargers.

I drove 50 miles on back roads averaging 40-50mph and drove very gently the other day. Using proper calculations, I got 37.5 mpg for the trip. The dash told me 38mpg.

Typical tank where I don't worry about milage, drive to have fun, I get 26-30pmg. If I really try to hypermile it, It's 30mpg easily average.
 

nerp

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The car cruises along at city speeds at around 1000rpms. Give it gas, it downshifts in a millisecond, I'm flying, let go, back to 1000rpms. Quick and sipping at the same time. It's totally the Z-F transmission.
 

nerp

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I got 36.5 mpg on a trip from RI to Maine (37 on the dash) driving between 70 and 85 the whole time. This included some stop and go near the 95/93 junction.
 

Zivic

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no the EcoBoost F150s do get 22mpg highway I believe.

You would have to be driving under the most ideal conditions to get that mileage and do so for hrs on end. Not going to happen in the real world. I have a close friend that has one and if he pulled 17, that would be good.
 

skipsneeky2

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I got 36.5 mpg on a trip from RI to Maine (37 on the dash) driving between 70 and 85 the whole time. This included some stop and go near the 95/93 junction.

Buddy who test drove the hemi 392 model told me the 8 speed is very efficient,when it got up to highway speed,either there was a option or engine function that would shut off 4 of the cylinders and mpg would just sky rocket.

Same for the v6?
 

nerp

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No cylinder deactivation on the v6. It would be cool, but the transmission makes up for that. And the higher overall economy with the 6 vs the 8. Yes, I wish I had an SRT but the v6 is plenty fast for me and the economy when I'm driving sane eliminates all regret I might feel for ditching my Yaris. :)
 

halik

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Ford F150 puts you around 800 miles with the 36 gallon tank.

I think you're confusing "small Home Depot projects" with "I'm a contractor for living". There are very few reason why a regular person should drive a 1/2 ton truck as their main mode of transit.
 
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I think you're confusing "small Home Depot projects" with "I'm a contractor for living". There are very few reason why a regular person should drive a 1/2 ton truck as their main mode of transit.

I simply answered the topic asked by the OP. AFAIK, I still have the suggestion with the longest range :)
 

LTC8K6

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No cylinder deactivation on the v6. It would be cool, but the transmission makes up for that. And the higher overall economy with the 6 vs the 8. Yes, I wish I had an SRT but the v6 is plenty fast for me and the economy when I'm driving sane eliminates all regret I might feel for ditching my Yaris. :)

No, those were the 8 speed EPA numbers, and I doubt you are actually beating them by that much.

There's very little chance that you are getting anywhere near 37mpg at 70+ mph, imo.

If you are, expect Dodge to petition the EPA for a recert. :p

The Pentastar was supposedly designed with MDS in mind, to be added later.

MDS may add a few % to the highway mileage.
 

Zivic

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I simply answered the topic asked by the OP. AFAIK, I still have the suggestion with the longest range :)

not under real world conditions... if you are turning miles in a controlled dyno room, then yes, you suggested the longest range
 

nerp

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No, those were the 8 speed EPA numbers, and I doubt you are actually beating them by that much.

There's very little chance that you are getting anywhere near 37mpg at 70+ mph, imo.

If you are, expect Dodge to petition the EPA for a recert. :p

The Pentastar was supposedly designed with MDS in mind, to be added later.

MDS may add a few % to the highway mileage.

It's probably because of the conditions. And I'm pointing out my very best experiences. As I've said repeatedly, I get an easy 26-30 in everyday driving without even trying. And it's easy to average 37mpg at 70+ in this car. It seems to maintain its speed really well and if the road is flat or even declines, the meter is at max, which is 40mpg on the display. On a long stretch of highway, as long as you're not going uphill for stretches, passing everybody or using cruise control (letting your speed increase/decrease over inclines/declines to avoid gas consumption and braking is more efficient than cruise control), the mileage is extreme.

I average 31 on the highway if there's moderate traffic and it includes a lot of uphill and/or conditions prohibit cruising in the sweet spot of about 75 mph. I suppose more people fall into this scenario. I work from home and have a lot of long 45 mph back roads that are lightly trafficked and due to my job, I generally hit the interstate at off-peak time. I also know how to drive and realize there's more than just two modes of driving: acceleration and braking. I'm one of those people who flows through a chain of lights without touching my brake pedal. Meanwhile everyone else seems to be pumping both pedals the whole way.
 

LTC8K6

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It's probably because of the conditions. And I'm pointing out my very best experiences. As I've said repeatedly, I get an easy 26-30 in everyday driving without even trying. And it's easy to average 37mpg at 70+ in this car. It seems to maintain its speed really well and if the road is flat or even declines, the meter is at max, which is 40mpg on the display. On a long stretch of highway, as long as you're not going uphill for stretches, passing everybody or using cruise control (letting your speed increase/decrease over inclines/declines to avoid gas consumption and braking is more efficient than cruise control), the mileage is extreme.

I average 31 on the highway if there's moderate traffic and it includes a lot of uphill and/or conditions prohibit cruising in the sweet spot of about 75 mph. I suppose more people fall into this scenario. I work from home and have a lot of long 45 mph back roads that are lightly trafficked and due to my job, I generally hit the interstate at off-peak time. I also know how to drive and realize there's more than just two modes of driving: acceleration and braking. I'm one of those people who flows through a chain of lights without touching my brake pedal. Meanwhile everyone else seems to be pumping both pedals the whole way.

Yeah, my brother owns a 2012 WK2 with the Pentastar and a 5 speed and the same dashboard readout. The MPG readout is often wildly optimistic. It gets about the same economy on long cruises as your Charger...if you want to believe it.
 

Ferzerp

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No, those were the 8 speed EPA numbers, and I doubt you are actually beating them by that much.

There's very little chance that you are getting anywhere near 37mpg at 70+ mph, imo.

If you are, expect Dodge to petition the EPA for a recert. :p

The Pentastar was supposedly designed with MDS in mind, to be added later.

MDS may add a few % to the highway mileage.

That depends. On the SRT8s at least, MDS is very, very conservatively set up. It only kicks in when power demand is incredibly low. In fact, unless you're going downhill, the air-resistence once you hit 70ish is enough that it won't ever come on unless you are losing speed.

I don't know how it is set up on the 5.7L R/Ts though.