New cars should come with factory dyno figures/graphs

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
whats the dyno chart of a stock v6 mustang look like? link?

modularfords: go look for yourself.

I've looked, couldn't find it. Which is my point... they're not easy to find

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
whats the dyno chart of a stock v6 mustang look like? link?

modularfords: go look for yourself.

I've looked, couldn't find it. Which is my point... they're not easy to find

one second I'll look for you

Hmmm google says otherwise

 

[jdoggg12]

Ok, i'll concede, that one was easy. Now do it for the 07 camry... Its a lot harder to find that kind of info for non-sports cars, which is more my target for this idea.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Ok, i'll concede, that one was easy. Now do it for the 07 camry... Its a lot harder to find that kind of info for non-sports cars, which is more my target for this idea.

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But, seriously why would you want one? Especially in a camry were is is going to be auto and torque curves do not matter as much.

 

[jdoggg12]

Want the camry? B/c lb. for lb. its the best value sedan on the markt, IMO. Reliability, mpg, power, insurance rates, resell is all there. I was set on going with the accord until i saw the power/gas figures on this new V6 in the camry.

My go fast vehicle is a streetbike.
My next 'sports' car will be a 69ss

I don't see why anyone would NOT want this info on the car. It may not be useful to you... you could add a small section next to the gas pump on the img below that gives you the relevent info
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p241...t/blog/Prius_WindowSticker_classic.jpg

It is as specific to the car as the hp/fuel efficiency ratings are (which varies slightly). The info could be taken from some of the cars before they're sent of to the crash institute so the info isnt done on a consumer car.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Want the camry? B/c lb. for lb. its the best value sedan on the markt, IMO. Reliability, mpg, power, insurance rates, resell is all there. I was set on going with the accord until i saw the power/gas figures on this new V6 in the camry.

My go fast vehicle is a streetbike.
My next 'sports' car will be a 69ss

I don't see why anyone would NOT want this info on the car. It may not be useful to you... you could add a small section next to the gas pump on the img below that gives you the relevent info
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p241...t/blog/Prius_WindowSticker_classic.jpg

It is as specific to the car as the hp/fuel efficiency ratings are (which varies slightly). The info could be taken from some of the cars before they're sent of to the crash institute so the info isnt done on a consumer car.

If you are going to buy the car for those reasons then you seem to be sold without the dyno graph. Trust me, about 90% of the population does not even know what a dyno is.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Want the camry? B/c lb. for lb. its the best value sedan on the markt, IMO. Reliability, mpg, power, insurance rates, resell is all there. I was set on going with the accord until i saw the power/gas figures on this new V6 in the camry.

My dad has a 2007 V6 Camry, and, surprisingly, it's no slouch. Car and Driver has it recorded doing 0-60 in 5.8 and the quarter in 14.3 @ 99mph. It's roomy, safe, has a huge trunk, reliable, smooth, gets awesome MPG for the 270HP and 280 lb/ft of tq it's rated for, comfortable, etc. It's the ultimate old people's car.

EDIT: SVT, he knows what a dyno is, but couldn't care one bit when in the market for a new car. Only enthusiasts care about dyno charts.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: Journer
no...they shouldnt...why?

1) very few people actually care
2) how much would it really impact you buying a car?
3) they already come with HP/tq ratings from the flywheel...thats plenty information to go test drive the car.

I'd say more people (men) care about the graph than care about the other crap on there (emissions specifics, etc)

It would impact my decision if i saw that that 300hp car only did 300 for 1/10th the rev range vs the 250hp car that does it for 1/3 of it

Edit:

Also - it would be harder to have goofs like the rx-8 HP debacle that happened

The graph would be useless though because it wasn't for your specific car and testing every car would add cost. Since most people don't care anyway it wouldn't be worthwhile.

Umm....

Not an actual dyno of that individual car, but an average of a series of tests done by the manufacturer for that model/trim.

It is still relatively meaningless because people generally only dyno a car to get a baseline for improving performance. Most people don't know how to read a dyno anyway so it's a useless bit of information...especially when it isn't specific to your car.

 

[natto fire]

Ok, this isn't that bad of an idea, but I can just see how this will be abused when manufacturer x gives flywheel dyno numbers, and manufacturer y gives chassis dyno numbers. Not to mention the underrating (GM smallblock anyone?) that goes on for various reasons.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Ok, this isn't that bad of an idea, but I can just see how this will be abused when manufacturer x gives flywheel dyno numbers, and manufacturer y gives chassis dyno numbers. Not to mention the underrating (GM smallblock anyone?) that goes on for various reasons.

You'll also get customers that complain when the car under performs when comparing the factory figures and the dyno read out.

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Ok, this isn't that bad of an idea, but I can just see how this will be abused when manufacturer x gives flywheel dyno numbers, and manufacturer y gives chassis dyno numbers. Not to mention the underrating (GM smallblock anyone?) that goes on for various reasons.

You'll also get customers that complain when the car under performs when comparing the factory figures and the dyno read out.

lol, didn't think of that. Might as well include the meaning of power to weight ratios, and gearing, that should get interesting.

 

[b0mbrman]

99% of buyers don't care

 

[theeedude]

Butt dyno and magazines/internet is enough. Of course some companies just make cars that have high peak torque and HP for the spec but low torque in the region where most of the driving is done by the average driver. Other engines like before mentioned Mustang or the 3800 may not be impressive from spec number, but are good in terms of actual drivability. So it's very important to test drive for yourself with your habits in mind. Unless you drive like a maniac with braketorquing or clutch dropping and revving the engine all the time, probably the peak HP and Torque number is not as important as low end and midrange torque.

 

[Lithium381]

should just be available online on edmunds or the corperate website, not be plastered on the window