I'd rather think Miata's are gay (which they are) than be surrounded by 100's of Miata fanboy's who are blind to the gayness.
Heh, I registered a couple of months ago. I lurk alot, but have never posted.
Originally posted by: m2kewl
who's the girlie man now!?!?!??!
j/k
, its a bit femine(sp?), but I'm not worried about it. Reading other Miata threads on this forum... i've come to expect that kinda response anyway. No big deal.Yep! They sure are! Wanna trade your 330Ci?
Thanks for the words of encouragement... you're probally right
.:roll:
Well unlike you I don't have penis envy and therefore can drive a Miata without feeling like my manhood is being threatened. Miata's are fun cars, easy to throw around a road coarse, and especially around Deals Gap, NC. Unfortunately you will never get to experience this because you feel your penis size is determined by your car. That's sad man...
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I just bought the car the Miata wishes it could grow up to be. (91 MR-2 Turbo)
I thought Miatas wished they could grow up to be Jaguars
Never liked MR2's myself. They've always looked ugly to me.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I just bought the car the Miata wishes it could grow up to be. (91 MR-2 Turbo)
I thought Miatas wished they could grow up to be Jaguars
Never liked MR2's myself. They've always looked ugly to me.
I didn't care for the look of the older or newer ones, but the second generation (91-95) were a cargasm. Toyota hired Lotus engineers when designing the car.
Pics
Much hotter than a Miata, not to mention faster and better handling.
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Looks good. Bone stock, clean, paint still has very good shine. Leather looks decent considering the age.
How many miles? How much $$?
Don't let the idiot haters here throw you off. Miatas are great cars, you always see them down at the track, and '94 is one of the better years.
edit: BatmanNate, I'll give you the "faster" claim because it's an MR2 turbo, but I disagree strongly with the "better handling" claim.
How many miles? How much $$?
Don't let the idiot haters here throw you off. Miatas are great cars, you always see them down at the track, and '94 is one of the better years.
edit: BatmanNate, I'll give you the "faster" claim because it's an MR2 turbo, but I disagree strongly with the "better handling" claim.
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I just bought the car the Miata wishes it could grow up to be. (91 MR-2 Turbo)
I thought Miatas wished they could grow up to be Jaguars
Never liked MR2's myself. They've always looked ugly to me.
I didn't care for the look of the older or newer ones, but the second generation (91-95) were a cargasm. Toyota hired Lotus engineers when designing the car.
Pics
Much hotter than a Miata, not to mention faster and better handling.
Those are the best MR2's but they are still ugly compared to Miata IMO. Miata looks like what a roadster is supposed to look like. The MR2 look dates itself a lot more. The Miata wasn't changed for 8 years, and wasn't much changed for 14 years now. That's how timeless the design is. I also question your handling claims. I haven't driven the MR2, but I have driven a Miata, and it handles awesome. I am getting one soon.
I didn't care for the look of the older or newer ones, but the second generation (91-95) were a cargasm. Toyota hired Lotus engineers when designing the car.
Pics
Much hotter than a Miata, not to mention faster and better handling.
Nice car. I considered, but avoided an MR2 for several reasons. As much as Toyota overbuilds their cars, I'd be a tad bit worried running a 10 year old turboed car. Its getting so old with a FI engine, I can imagine costly repairs coming up. Being Mid Engined doesn't help with costs either or with the difficulty of repairing the car. I hear MR2s are difficult to work on. Miatas on the other hand are nearly bulletproof internally and were overbuilt, plus I hear they're very easy to work on. The MR2 is also a bit heavy for my tastes (2900~), and I was looking for a convertible.
Regarding stock performance, I do believe your MR2 would have it in straight line speed, but as far as cornering, I believe the Miata nearly has a perfect 50/50 weight balance, so the whole "Mid-Engine is better" logic is null. With all that extra weight being thrown around, I believe the Miata can take corners better. Overall, I believe since the car aspect of autocross relies around suspension and cornering than HP and straight line speed (though, there is no denying HP helps), I'm going to have to give the Miata the win. There is a reason why widely used and keep winning at national events.
I also believe the Miata has more potential for performance... plenty of forced induction kits are available, running low boost nets around 200HP to the wheels pretty easily, while high boost can push out around 250 to the wheels before things start to break. On a 2300~ LB car, thats wicked fast.
Nice car, much faster looking, but I wouldn't say its what the Miata wanted to be, if anything, they're very different cars.
Yep, bone stock, pretty clean, great paint for a 10 year old car (little blemishes here and there), and the leather is nice for its age.
101,000 miles, $4650.
Hehe, I'm not too worried about haters, if they are that closed minded about a vehicle, there opinion is void, I couldn't care less.
94 has a couple of the revisions from the earlier models (bigger brakes, 1.8L, different interior, etc) that I believe are shared until 97. I'm glad I got on one of the later 1st gens.
Your logic is flawed here. 50/50 weight balance does not equal better cornering when you're comparing to a mid-engined car. The Elise has a 40/60 weight balance but still outcorners most cars in the world. The Miata's real advantage is its light weight.
No way. Toyota over-engineered the 3S like they did the 2JZ. Stock internals should be able to hold 600-700 horsepower iirc.
Uh, the reason why the Elise outhandles most cars in the world is because its less than 2000lbs. Obviously other factors come into play, such as suspension (for a $40,000 car, you would hope it handled well), tires used, tire size, etc. From what I have read, a 50/50 weight distribution is ideal.
The only advantages the mid-engine layout has is the factor in weight (generally lighter, no need for a driveshaft), and the placement of the weight on the vehicle. Since the Elise has a lighter weight (about 250-300 less than a Miata), and a suspension to kill for, obviously it would outhandle the Miata. Those are the reasons why an Elise would outhandle a Miata.
The Miata would outcorner an MR2 because of its weight. As i've said earlier, the MidEngine layout's advantages are, lighter weight, and placement of the weight. The Miata weighs less than the MR2, so that advantage is null, and since the Miata has a 50/50 weight distribution, the 2nd advantage is null. Because the MR2 has no advantages and light weight favors the Miata, thats why the MR2 is outcornered.
Regardless, the Miata will still out corner the MR2. Show me a 600-700hp streetable MR2. There are some Miatas that can break into Low-mid 12s, and they're not meant to be drag cars. 700HP in an MR2 isn't going to do you any favors over 250hp in a Miata on an autocross course.
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Yep, I really like the '94 (my brother has owned one since new). Good year.
Price seems a bit on the high side (less than $4k would be better), but it sure seems to be in good shape.
At 101k miles, a very important question to ask is if the timing belt and water pump have been replaced (should be done together). It's a non-inteference motor, but it would be ideal if this necessary maintenence had already been done.
A 50/50 weigh distribution is ideal for an FR car, not a mid-engined car. A 40/60 mid-engine car would out-handle a 50/50 FR car with the same weigh and suspension setup imho. FYI, F1 cars are mid-engined and have a weight balance close to 40/60. Again, the Miata's only advantage over the MR2 is weight.
Why? You said the Miata's engine had more potential. You are wrong and that's that. And if I had a 700hp MR2, I wouldn't waste my time on Autocross.. I'd be on the highway racing bikes.
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