New car prices are out of control

[surfsatwerk]

you ever sucked dick for coke?

I'm not an addict, it's cool I feel alive.

 

[CVSiN]

Guess I'm one of those you hate.
just bought a new Special Edition SS Camaro and it came out around 50K when it was all said and done.

and know what.. I care less if you like it or not.

44-50k is pretty average now for a maxed out mid level car.
5.0 Mustangs all in that range
so are 370z's and V8 Challengers and many other desirable vehicles.

Sorry inflation is a bitch some of those same cars 20 years ago could be had for 20k fully loaded.

And then go back 30 years behind that and a Corvette was 4k fully loaded.

and not sure where you live in Texas were a 60k house is anything but a shack.
But here in Houston anything less than 140k is in a bad part of town.

 

[bignateyk]

Can that small SUV tow my trailer? See, it is 5400# dry weight before being loaded. The "no one needs a truck" - "all you need is this" argument is pretty lame.

When your small SUV can tow 7000#+ once a month while carrying the family, and all supplies please let me know which one and I'll trade down the first chance I get. And oh... It needs to handle a tongue weight of 1300#.

Good luck!

I was speaking to the argument that any serious DIY homeowner needs to have a truck, which is simply not true. There are obviously applications where a truck is needed like towing a large boat. There are small SUV's capable of towing 5000lbs, which is more than adequate for just about any application.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Guess I'm one of those you hate.
just bought a new Special Edition SS Camaro and it came out around 50K when it was all said and done.

and know what.. I care less if you like it or not.

44-50k is pretty average now for a maxed out mid level car.
5.0 Mustangs all in that range
so are 370z's and V8 Challengers and many other desirable vehicles.

Sorry inflation is a bitch some of those same cars 20 years ago could be had for 20k fully loaded.

And then go back 30 years behind that and a Corvette was 4k fully loaded.

and not sure where you live in Texas were a 60k house is anything but a shack.
But here in Houston anything less than 140k is in a bad part of town.

You monster brah?

 

[CVSiN]

You monster brah?

is that even English?
guess you from one of "those" neighborhoods.
No idea what you said.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I was speaking to the argument that any serious DIY homeowner needs to have a truck, which is simply not true. There are obviously applications where a truck is needed like towing a large boat. There are small SUV's capable of towing 5000lbs, which is more than adequate for just about any application.

It's nice having the truck bed and not needing the trailer anytime you haul crap. I only get the trailer out for big loads or when I need the low height for just tipping over stuff instead of lifting it onto a truck bed.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

is that even English?
guess you from one of "those" neighborhoods.
No idea what you said.

Actually I have a kick ass house. Even if I won the lottery I'd stay at my current house. It's that nice.

 

[CVSiN]

Actually I have a kick ass house. Even if I won the lottery I'd stay at my current house. It's that nice.

I guess Doublewides in Midland are some sweet living now..

/chuckle

 

[dave_the_nerd]

You can't judge people because you don't know the whole story. Well you can but you're only trying to make yourself feel better by doing it. Everyone knows a person/family or two living month-to-month splurging with no savings and they think that's how everyone else is.

I see a new car in a neighbor's driveway and the first thing I think about is what are the car's specs, not the person's financials. Now THAT would reflect who you are.

Believe me, I wasn't judging. Just saying, it comes down to the individual and the math.

Making judgements based on partial information is, itself, a personality fault. At the very least, it's somebody who isn't introspective enough to realize they don't have the whole picture.

 

[Slew Foot]

WTF are all you people hauling around drywall for?

Anyhoo, a few years ago I was at the Taco Bell drivethru and the teenager at the window was ogling my car (2008 TL-S) and asked me how much it cost (~33k). He looked like he was doing some calculations in his head and then said, "yeah I can afford that!". I lol'ed and drove off.

 

[Vdubchaos]

buying new cars ever 3-5 years is one of America's biggest addictions.

I have 3 cars, 99, 2000 and 2001. All of them are paid for and both wife and I simply don't want a new car payment/insurance (even though we can manage easily)

Just doesn't make sense. All of our cars are fine.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Actually I have a kick ass house. Even if I won the lottery I'd stay at my current house. It's that nice.

Watch out everyone!

 

[JM Aggie08]

I guess personal tastes and preferences can't be taken into consideration within this thread.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I guess Doublewides in Midland are some sweet living now..

/chuckle

Don't live in Midland. My house is what's important to me. That's where my money goes. Here's an owl I saw sitting in my backyard. A couple Weeks later I saw a huge hawk swoop down and sit on the same tree. Have eastern bluebirds that nested here last year and I saw them back again recently. Have to watch for deer when driving down my street. Once heard some wild pig in the field behind me at night. Saw a huge turkey one day. I can also be in town in a mile or two and get gas or whatever.

 

[ShawnD1]

Never had a new car, and I never will. I prefer to let someone else take the depreciation.

One of my coworkers got a BMW for pretty close to half price, and it was only a year old. Used cars rock (assuming you don't get stuck with a lemon).
I got a 9 year old car for my gf for only $1,000. It's a GM, meaning it sucks, but you can't beat $1,000. It doesn't even have any mechanical problems. Just the typical GM electrical bullshit where it's impossible to lock the doors, the power locks don't work on the passenger side, and the map light doesn't work on the passenger side.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Watch out everyone!

Can you say the same thing? I'm not saying I live in some multi million dollar home or anything. I have the best neighbors, quiet country setting, and a shop to play with my car, trees to cut down with my trusty chainsaw, land for my dog to run. Go down the road to the city park and play some basketball. I love my town and my home. I am truly rich in that regard.

 

[CVSiN]

Don't live in Midland. My house is what's important to me. That's where my money goes. Here's an owl I saw sitting in my backyard. A couple Weeks later I saw a huge hawk swoop down and sit on the same tree. Have eastern bluebirds that nested here last year and I saw them back again recently. Have to watch for deer when driving down my street. Once heard some wild pig in the field behind me at night. Saw a huge turkey one day. I can also be in town in a mile or two and get gas or whatever.
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Wow that sounds.. well "quaint"
all the power to you.. I would never live in the country even if a mansion cost 10 bucks.

just not worth it.

I'll take my "flashy overpriced" townhome and car in the middle of Houston or any other large civilized city any day.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Wow that sounds.. well "quaint"
all the power to you.. I would never live in the country even if a mansion cost 10 bucks.

just not worth it.

I'll take my "flashy overpriced" townhome and car in the middle of Houston or any other large civilized city any day.

Hate to bust your bubble but houses like mine are desired and more expensive than city houses. People leaving the city all the time are willing to pay good money to live out here. The schools are better, safer, less typical city BS.

 

[ShawnD1]

I'm glad people hate city living. Not having to bid against them keeps the prices lower. I hate the thought of living out in the country and driving an hour to work. I walk 1 minute to the bus stop then it's about 30 minutes of busing to work.
If public transit was not available near my work, I would rather live outside of the city as well.

 

[CVSiN]

Hate to bust your bubble but houses like mine are desired and more expensive than city houses. People leaving the city all the time are willing to pay good money to live out here. The schools are better, safer, less typical city BS.

No bubble to burst. both me and my SO don't want kids so school districts don't matter.
safer? not really Sugar Land Texas has been in the top 10% of the entire USA for low crime for years now and that is less than 15 miles from Downtown Houston.

And I'll take the rest of that city BS any day over country small town living.

 

[CVSiN]

I'm glad people hate city living. Not having to bid against them keeps the prices lower. I hate the thought of living out in the country and driving an hour to work. I walk 1 minute to the bus stop then it's about 30 minutes of busing to work.
If public transit was not available near my work, I would rather live outside of the city as well.

+1 living 2 minutes from work. as well as all the trendy stores and bars of City Centre out my front door rocks.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Hate to bust your bubble but houses like mine are desired and more expensive than city houses. People leaving the city all the time are willing to pay good money to live out here. The schools are better, safer, less typical city BS.

Maybe where you live but not in many other cities.

 

[OverVolt]

Eeeek they really do 6,7 or 8 year loans?

EEeeeeeekkk

 

[JM Aggie08]

+1 living 2 minutes from work. as well as all the trendy stores and bars of City Centre out my front door rocks.

I now know pretty much exactly where you live :hmm:

The Yard House > *

 

[CVSiN]

I now know pretty much exactly where you live :hmm:

The Yard House > *

Right there correct.

We live in "The Domain" right next to Cyclones.